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Spicers: Hutt Space . A drama about the chaotic and violent rise Hutt dominance over the spice trade and its often violent expansion into areas outside Hutt Space.

Queen of Arkanis , A drama about an escaped Twi-lek slave (and her entourage) as she rises to rival Jabba in the Arkanis sector spice trade.

Lost in Space. A drama about the trials and adventures of a family on an exploration mission in the Unknown Regions.

The Marshals , a frontier marshals have to keep order and deal with smugglers, pirates, raiders, mercenaries, and more in a remote system / sector.

Disavowed , A small team of Mandalorian super-commandos survive in exile as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The Deathwatch.

The last one could work with any group of "disgraced" special forces or intelligence operatives.

30 minutes ago, Vondy said:

The last one could work with any group of "disgraced" special forces or intelligence operatives.

Flame Out Notice?

Just now, Daeglan said:

Flame Out Notice?

That also works!

Niman. Kii Chakain, A padawan survivor who travels through the Outer Rim in the wake of the Fall of the Republic with only his spiritual training and skill with a lightsaber as he seeks out his lost master. Although he seeks to avoid notice his sense of social responsibility force him out into the open to fight for justice and the underdog. After each encounter he must escape capture and flee to ensure no harm befalls those he has aided. Cheesy aphorisms and hoo pipes music are featured prominently.

1 hour ago, Vondy said:

Niman. Kii Chakain, A padawan survivor who travels through the Outer Rim in the wake of the Fall of the Republic with only his spiritual training and skill with a lightsaber as he seeks out his lost master. Although he seeks to avoid notice his sense of social responsibility force him out into the open to fight for justice and the underdog. After each encounter he must escape capture and flee to ensure no harm befalls those he has aided. Cheesy aphorisms and hoo pipes music are featured prominently.

His lost Master needs to have fallen to the Dark Side....

Should it be like Airwolf, Nightrider or just Kung Fu

14 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Should it be like Airwolf, Nightrider or just Kung Fu

I was just thinking Kung Fu (no "cool car.").

But, I suppose one could add a heavily-armed stealth-tech conveyance with slaved droid astrogation-gunnery-piloting brains and a pleasant speaking voice!

3 hours ago, KungFuFerret said:

Yeah that would be a good choice. The arms would allow for a lot of comical limb flailing in fear and frustration at the idiocy of Looplub X.

An episode where they show how various riding animals are trained. Near 5he end of the episode Looplub gets eaten by a blurg that has already been trained. Because hes an idiot.

3 hours ago, KungFuFerret said:

Stupid browser.

2 minutes ago, Vondy said:

I was just thinking Kung Fu (no "cool car.").

But, I suppose one could add a heavily-armed stealth-tech conveyance with slaved droid astrogation-gunnery-piloting brains and a pleasant speaking voice!

I mean he has to travel from planet to planet.

1 hour ago, Daeglan said:

I mean he has to travel from planet to planet.

True enough. In his tricked out talking M12-L Kimogila heavy fighter named "Kith" no doubt. I now have a mental picture of it coming up out of a canyon on Tattooine kicking up masses of dust amid straining engine whine and the Airwolf theme playing in my head.

5 hours ago, Ahrimon said:

We, the audience know about all of the space wizardry, but to 99% of the galaxy it's just a myth. It'd be super easy to have a show without the force.

You're right, it would be super easy to have such a show, my point is they never do it. Even the Mando brought in Baby Yoda and Force stuff, because of course they did. It's Star Wars.

1 hour ago, Vondy said:

True enough. In his tricked out talking M12-L Kimogila heavy fighter named "Kith" no doubt. I now have a mental picture of it coming up out of a canyon on Tattooine kicking up masses of dust amid straining engine whine and the Airwolf theme playing in my head.

With and advanced sensor array that is a red light flashing back and forth.

So the astromech...which sidekick arch type would we go with?

Im thinking maybe overzealously protective and a bit darker in nature than Kai Chakan

24 minutes ago, KungFuFerret said:

You're right, it would be super easy to have such a show, my point is they never do it. Even the Mando brought in Baby Yoda and Force stuff, because of course they did. It's Star Wars.

Part of the issue is the OT was heavily focused on the Jedi and the Rebel Alliance while the PT was heavily focused on the Jedi and the Grand Army of the Republic. Scum and villainy, while adding color and a few convenient plot points, was not even close to being a coequal thematic pillar in the movies. The Scum and villiany theme grew into Star War's third pillar through the expanded universe of comics, novels, RPGs, video games, etc. As a result, when producers go to make a TV series for a broader audience as opposed to just for hardcore fans and gamers, they are likely asking themselves: "does this have the things the public at large expects from Star Wars?" Namely, WARS or THE FORCE.

If think you could make a great scum and villainy show without either of those elements, but I'm a gamer and lifelong fan fan. I've been reading about bounty hunters, hutts, mandalorians, and side-show parts of the Star Wars universe my entire life. But, I'm a weirdo. I don't think Star Wars has bled into the broader public consciousness the way it has mine, or yours, or other long-time fans. It will do that through shows like the Mandalorian over time, but I doubt the producers were 100% confidant it would draw enough viewers without a dollop of one of the major movie themes tossed in. I'm okay with that.

We may get it with the Cassian Andor series, however. Rogue One showed us you could have a Star Wars movie without Jedi or overt Force powers. It was 99% a war movie. Since Cassian in an agent for the REBEL ALLIANCE and occurs under the Empire the show already has the WARS theme in place. The real question is, does the Mandalorian end up introducing a side-character who is so popular with the fans that they get their own spin-off? Then you might get scum and villainy without the Force.

Here are a couple really legit possibilities for shows in the Star Wars Universe (at least during the GCW era)

and this (Seasons 2 and 3 are available as well)

7 hours ago, Vondy said:

Part of the issue is the OT was heavily focused on the Jedi and the Rebel Alliance while the PT was heavily focused on the Jedi and the Grand Army of the Republic. Scum and villainy, while adding color and a few convenient plot points, was not even close to being a coequal thematic pillar in the movies. The Scum and villiany theme grew into Star War's third pillar through the expanded universe of comics, novels, RPGs, video games, etc. As a result, when producers go to make a TV series for a broader audience as opposed to just for hardcore fans and gamers, they are likely asking themselves: "does this have the things the public at large expects from Star Wars?" Namely, WARS or THE FORCE.

If think you could make a great scum and villainy show without either of those elements, but I'm a gamer and lifelong fan fan. I've been reading about bounty hunters, hutts, mandalorians, and side-show parts of the Star Wars universe my entire life. But, I'm a weirdo. I don't think Star Wars has bled into the broader public consciousness the way it has mine, or yours, or other long-time fans. It will do that through shows like the Mandalorian over time, but I doubt the producers were 100% confidant it would draw enough viewers without a dollop of one of the major movie themes tossed in. I'm okay with that.

We may get it with the Cassian Andor series, however. Rogue One showed us you could have a Star Wars movie without Jedi or overt Force powers. It was 99% a war movie. Since Cassian in an agent for the REBEL ALLIANCE and occurs under the Empire the show already has the WARS theme in place. The real question is, does the Mandalorian end up introducing a side-character who is so popular with the fans that they get their own spin-off? Then you might get scum and villainy without the Force.

Cassian Andor's getting his own series? Ugh, well, I guess he was the least bothersome character from that movie. And yes I know it would be doable to people who like grim and gritty space stuff to have a non-Force SW show, just look at Firefly and that's almost it (though River could be a Force-sensitive as far as translation of abilities). But no Disney executive is ever going to green light something 100% Force Free. I just don't buy it. And here is why. There is a percentage of the SW fanbase (and I consider myself part of it) that doesn't really care about the War side of SW, or the Scum and Villainy side of SW, and are mostly in love with the franchise due to the Force stuff. So not eventually introducing it, means Disney is missing out on a not insignificant percentage of the consumer base, they could be getting ratings and money from. And since SW is a business with billions of dollars of revenue pretty much guaranteed, they will do what looks mathematically the most lucrative.

And I disagree with your statement that Star Wars hasn't bled into the broader public consciousness yet. It's one of the most ubiquitous franchises on the planet, and has been so for...well, literally since I was born (I'm 43 so I've been alive as long as the franchise has existed). And I've never met anyone who isn't at least casually aware of the franchise. I'm sure they exist, but that's not the same thing as saying nobody knows about it but for the uber-fans. Multiple generations of humans have grown up marinating in Star Wars merch and shows, and it's just becoming more omnipresent. Now sure, the EU stuff isn't as well known by people, but...frankly a lot of that stuff is terrible quality, so that's not really saying much. But I bet you if you took a global poll, showing people random images of the iconic things of SW, or played them snippets of John Williams music, most will know Star Wars. Just like Santa, and Mario being globally recognized mascots, stuff like lightsabers, darth vader, x-wings, etc. They've just been around for way too long for people to not know about them.

Hmm, what about something along the lines of Hannibal or Dexter that follows a Jedi attempting to hide in society. He keeps using the force for evil and manipulative things while keeping the heroic ISB agent close and hiding that it's really him.

14 minutes ago, Ahrimon said:

Hmm, what about something along the lines of Hannibal or Dexter that follows a Jedi attempting to hide in society. He keeps using the force for evil and manipulative things while keeping the heroic ISB agent close and hiding that it's really him.

I like the premise, though given the 2 protags you described are ostensibly "evil people trying to pretend to be good to fit into society" , I think it would be better to have them be a Sith of the less genocidal philosophy, who is trying to just live. Like say, Darth Maul in the Rebels cartoon, assuming he wasn't living out in the wastelands or whatever, and was instead just living on Coruscant.

1 hour ago, KungFuFerret said:

I like the premise, though given the 2 protags you described are ostensibly "evil people trying to pretend to be good to fit into society" , I think it would be better to have them be a Sith of the less genocidal philosophy, who is trying to just live. Like say, Darth Maul in the Rebels cartoon, assuming he wasn't living out in the wastelands or whatever, and was instead just living on Coruscant.

That'd be interesting. My premise was based more on that any holo's would be imperial propaganda, so the "Secret Villian" would be a Jedi using tricks to manipulate people. The tricks wouldn't actually be the force but would show the audience that those claiming to be Jedi are just tricksters. That's why I was going for the Jedi being bad people pretending to be good while secretly doing evil things as a pro-imperial spin.

8 minutes ago, Ahrimon said:

That'd be interesting. My premise was based more on that any holo's would be imperial propaganda, so the "Secret Villian" would be a Jedi using tricks to manipulate people. The tricks wouldn't actually be the force but would show the audience that those claiming to be Jedi are just tricksters. That's why I was going for the Jedi being bad people pretending to be good while secretly doing evil things as a pro-imperial spin.

Oh well yeah, you didn't specify this was an Imperial propoganda piece meant to slander the Jedi as villains. In that case yeah, Jedi makes sense. I was looking at it from the viewpoint of US watching the show, not a fictional audience in-universe.

Druggat Dreadful

Haunting of Hill Hut

The Chilling Adventures of Savrina the Sith Sorceress

Rakghouls on a Star Destroyer

Clone (Orphan) Black

Obi-Wan Helsing

(and totally that Hannibal one mentioned up above)

The Star Courier . Our hero is a freelance courier for hire who will deliver anything to anywhere for the right price. He lives by a strict professional code: once a deal is made its final, no questions are ever asked, and never open the package. He is also very secretive and only trusts a small number of people: his command-and-control tech, his mechanic, and an infochant-fixer who serves as his "booking agent." Of course, our hero has a conscience and sometimes breaks his unbreakable rules embroiling himself in Adventure! He survives the dangerous criminals he encounters on his missions using his precision piloting and honed combat skills.

80s high tech vehicle shows. Remember Street Hawk? Scout trooper with super advanced speeder bike and armor. Sure we know they already exist, but how much does the general populace in Star Wars know?

1 hour ago, bsmith23 said:

80s high tech vehicle shows. Remember Street Hawk? Scout trooper with super advanced speeder bike and armor. Sure we know they already exist, but how much does the general populace in Star Wars know?

CHIPS. Two scout troopers assigned to law enforcement duties...

9 minutes ago, Vondy said:

CHIPS. Two scout troopers assigned to law enforcement duties...

We got a taste of that in Mando Episode 8.

Pretty much any buddy cop show (Adam-12, Dragnet) would be great.

Indeed!

Our non-Jedi side game is basically the transporter riff I posted above.