I wonder how they will implement the story boxes rules wise? Im kinda hoping its going to more than just a series of linked scenarios like the core box story wise.

That was a nice thematic touch they did there, but im hoping for something more meaty.

Do you think its possible to have some kind of experiance system for the heroes, or way of improving your deck in some way as you play through the story campaign?

I have mixed feelings on that as in comics characters do improve but rarely and to be honest it depends on the character, Captain America is still largely unchanged from when he was originally reintroduced into the MCU, where characters such as Black Panther and Captain Marvel have gone through numerous changes and growth.

Im just wondering where they will go with the story boxes.

Thoughts?

6 minutes ago, Humantorch101 said:

I wonder how they will implement the story boxes rules wise? Im kinda hoping its going to more than just a series of linked scenarios like the core box story wise.

That was a nice thematic touch they did there, but im hoping for something more meaty.

Do you think its possible to have some kind of experiance system for the heroes, or way of improving your deck in some way as you play through the story campaign?

I have mixed feelings on that as in comics characters do improve but rarely and to be honest it depends on the character, Captain America is still largely unchanged from when he was originally reintroduced into the MCU, where characters such as Black Panther and Captain Marvel have gone through numerous changes and growth.

Im just wondering where they will go with the story boxes.

Thoughts?

I think experience is unlikely, but potentially special scenario cards could be added - for example, a series of infinity stones could be collected, each with a unique power, and later an infinity Gauntlet, etc...

You could have the equivalent of “Boons” in LOTR - attachments on the hero that start in play, that give a small boost in some way or other.

I'm hoping it will be an all villain box, as we have plenty of Hero’s by the time it’s released. But I bet it won’t be, FFG will almost certainly include at least one Hero, to force customers, who want that Hero to buy the whole box, Nick Fury, perhaps?

1 hour ago, Daft Blazer said:

You could have the equivalent of “Boons” in LOTR - attachments on the hero that start in play, that give a small boost in some way or other.

I'm hoping it will be an all villain box, as we have plenty of Hero’s by the time it’s released. But I bet it won’t be, FFG will almost certainly include at least one Hero, to force customers, who want that Hero to buy the whole box, Nick Fury, perhaps?

The blurb on the games page on FFG’s website indicates that the story boxes are going to be 3-5 linked scenarios and that they’ll contain heroes and Villains. I’d probably expect 2 heroes as a minimum, but I’m hoping for plenty of scenarios. I’m hoping that the scenarios can be used in a stand alone way as well.

Thanks for the info 👍

What would you prefer:

- “LOTR style” with less heroes and more villains (scenarios)
or

- “Arkham Horror” style with more heroes and less villains (scenarios)

4 minutes ago, cheapmate said:

What would you prefer:

- “LOTR style” with less heroes and more villains (scenarios)
or

- “Arkham Horror” style with more heroes and less villains (scenarios)

Certainly for this first one, on the basis that from Wrecking Crew in February to the story box in July there will only be hero releases, I’d prefer more scenarios .

Just now, cheapmate said:

What would you prefer:

- “LOTR style” with less heroes and more villains (scenarios)
or

- “Arkham Horror” style with more heroes and less villains (scenarios)

That's a difficult one. Especially since FFG has changed their approach to their usual LCG distribution model with MC. Personally I'd like to see more villains, just for the simple fact that it will increase the replayability. I don't know about you guys, but even while I like to play with all the different heroes, there are certain ones that I'm going to be spending more time playing with because they are favorites (I've already played more with Cap than any other single hero aside from maybe She-Hulk).

That being said, I really want to see a good deal more aspect cards as well. If the big box expansion has, say, three copies of two different cards for each aspect and neutral, that would be 30 new aspect cards total, which seems reasonable. Even three new aspect and neutral cards (bumping it up to 45) would be doable, I think.

Overall, I'm trying not to have too many expectations for the boxes until the first one comes out because then I'll have more of an idea of what I should be expecting in the future. Less disappointment that way.

I would expect it to be extremely similar to the core set, with the primary difference being the ratio of heroes to villains (and lack of tokens/dials, though I wouldn’t mind some more all-purpose counters).

And they could go with 5/3 again, I just feel like that I’d the most likely place to flex. Anywhere from 2/6 to 6/2 seems plausible, though I feel like they’re more likely to stick to 3/5, 4/4, or 5/3 to keep it more balanced (and that seems to be backed up by the “3-5 scenarios” bit of the blurb on the product page.)

1 hour ago, cheapmate said:

What would you prefer:

- “LOTR style” with less heroes and more villains (scenarios)
or

- “Arkham Horror” style with more heroes and less villains (scenarios)

Imperial Assault: 2 heroes. Five connected missions, you play three that depend on whether you win or lose. "Play mission B if you won mission A, play mission C if you lost mission A."

I'd expect the same number of cards as the L5R Deluxe expansions: 234.

I'm going to guess 2 heroes with a playable-out-the-box deck each to complete the set of four with the May & June heroes. Also, two additional new cards of each aspect and Basic. That will come to about 108 hero cards and 12 encounter cards. It's possible that some of the additional cards are replaced with hero cards linked to the story.

That leaves 126 for encounter cards. Scenarios are approximately 25 cards each, and modules are 5-8. I'm going to suggest 4 Scenarios and 5 modules, although one of the modules could be a story-linked one (Variant Standard module??)

7 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

I'd expect the same number of cards as the L5R Deluxe expansions: 234.

I'm going to guess 2 heroes with a playable-out-the-box deck each to complete the set of four with the May & June heroes. Also, two additional new cards of each aspect and Basic. That will come to about 108 hero cards and 12 encounter cards. It's possible that some of the additional cards are replaced with hero cards linked to the story.

That leaves 126 for encounter cards. Scenarios are approximately 25 cards each, and modules are 5-8. I'm going to suggest 4 Scenarios and 5 modules, although one of the modules could be a story-linked one (Variant Standard module??)

That is mostly what I would guess, although I think only 4 modules, with a bit more cards for the story scenarios. Possibly a campaign set of cards that aren't used outside of the story. Or just bigger scenarios. Mutagen Formula has 31 I believe.

From a new video (in French, unfortunately): It's going to be 3 heroes and 5 scenarios.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpf7LZ5jXiQ&feature=emb_title

Woah, any more info you can give from that? And how do they know?

Uuuh yeah are they just discussing future products? Do they have any reason to know things? Can we have a little more context? 😜

It's more like a brief mention in passing rather than a discussion. Near the end of the video, starting around the 42:15 mark, the guy is saying that Thor along with Ms Marvel and Cap are released together in December in the US and sometime around January 15 in France, with Green Goblin being the next scenario to be released, which sort of implies at a later date than this. But that's not the right calendar, as we all know. I've skimmed through the thing and I didn't find any mention of the story box anywhere, but I don't think any speculation of theirs on this topic would be credible.

For more specificity: The man on the right is an Asmodee rep, and you can hear him talk about the Story Box at around 1:45. Specifically he says it will contain "trois héros et cinq scénarios" or "three heroes and five scenarios".

https://youtu.be/xpf7LZ5jXiQ?t=105

6 minutes ago, sverigesson said:

For more specificity: The man on the right is an Asmodee rep, and you can hear him talk about the Story Box at around 1:45. Specifically he says it will contain "trois héros et cinq scénarios" or "three heroes and five scenarios".

https://youtu.be/xpf7LZ5jXiQ?t=105

Nice, thank you for that, I really missed that part. Although you say he is an Asmodée rep, his summarizing of the December expansions at the end is way, way off. I presume it was easier to remember the vague contours of the planned story box.

On 1/1/2020 at 12:05 PM, Ascarel said:

Nice, thank you for that, I really missed that part. Although you say he is an Asmodée rep, his summarizing of the December expansions at the end is way, way off. I presume it was easier to remember the vague contours of the planned story box.

Yeah, can't say I am expert in French, and he did mess up the timing on a few releases, apparently. I suppose it's up in the air as to how much credibility we should give him. I admit was unable to actually figure out exactly who he is, other than he is affiliated with FFG somehow.

He work for Edge, the french counterpart of FFG, so yeah he is credible. I won't blame him for don't knowing perfectly the USA release date.

1 hour ago, vilainn6 said:

He work for Edge, the french counterpart of FFG, so yeah he is credible. I won't blame him for don't knowing perfectly the USA release date.

Considering FFG themselves had a hard time figuring that out, he can definitely be cut some slack.

I honestly would be surprised if the story box is anything other than thematic. That is heroes that fit on a team together and scenarios done in a certain order (just like core set) but no additional mechanics.

16 minutes ago, Cable2 said:

I honestly would be surprised if the story box is anything other than thematic. That is heroes that fit on a team together and scenarios done in a certain order (just like core set) but no additional mechanics.

I agree. I'm leaning toward thinking the first story box will be an Avengers-related story since almost all of the heroes so far have been Avengers (and those that aren't can be made into Avengers with the Honorary Avenger card). It would make sense to build out a portion of the hero pool, then do a story box relevant to that hero pool. Especially if only a couple of heroes are going to be included in the box. Hopefully no delays happen and the box releases on schedule in July, because I'm really interested to see the details of it. Even though we'll get the official announcement and reveal of the box in April, I like having the cards in hand and to see some what some of the cards they don't announce do. There were a couple in the Cap and Ms. Marvel packs they didn't highlight that are just awesome.

4 hours ago, Cable2 said:

I honestly would be surprised if the story box is anything other than thematic. That is heroes that fit on a team together and scenarios done in a certain order (just like core set) but no additional mechanics.

They were originally named Story Boxes. And I did wonder if they would simply be like the core set - i.e multiple scenarios, thematically linked, with a few thematically linked heroes.

But they’ve since changed the name to Campaign Boxes on the product page. Maybe there’s nothing to that. Or maybe it’s indicative there being more to it rules wise. They’re also described as ‘linked’

”Campaign Expansions – The larger campaign expansions introduce a series of three to five linked scenarios that let you live out your favorite comic book stories! These boxes contain both new heroes and villains to expand your game of Marvel Champions!“

I will be a bit disappointed if there are no mechanics at all to the big boxes.

Dont get me wrong. Will be hugely happy with so much new content.

But as they have been so secrective about them about how they will work etc, it will still feel like a slight let down.