My wife and I were playing the first Creatures adventure last night. She had her Wood Giant holed up in a wooded terrain hex and was hurling logs at my advancing Warrior hero (to which I thought, "well that's a waste of time"). She rolled a lore while my hero was still 2 hexes away, which she then pointed out to me is supposed to cause the targeted unit to retreat 2 hexes. The card for the Forest Lair hex states that only Helmet Colors hit, but it doesn't say that flags/lore have no effect.

I couldn't remember how this was handled with the Hill Giant and his rock pile. I thought I remembered coming across it before in a FAQ but I couldn't find it by searching. So my question is, Does the Wood Giant's Pushback ability apply in ranged combat?

I think I remember reading an old FAQ from DOW where it was stated that a Hill Giant only causes pushback with its hammer and not with thrown boulders, but like I said I couldn't find it anywhere and I wasn't sure if that was a fan answer or a Richard Borg answer.

To the best of my knowledge, don't think anyone has asked that question. If so, it is well hidden - since I have checked all the FAQs and couldn't find it. (looking at the Hill Giant of course).

But I think obviously for the Hill Giant and pushback, that it would apply to ranged attack (since it is a big boulder and/or rock). Thus probably apply to the forest giant as well (big lumber vs rocks in this case).

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awayputurwpn said:

I am but a fan. However, the Creature Compendium has this to say about the Hill Giant's boulder tosses:

4. Can a thrown boulder (ranged attack) cause a Pushback as well? (FAQ)
2007-01-09 02:54:42
A: The Giant's Pushback power only applies when he uses his Hammer. It does not apply to boulders launched from his Rock Pile.

I would assume the same holds true for the Wood Giant, unless it specifically states otherwise in the Creature expansion.

Ah the creature compendium! Lol I have a copy of that on my hard drive even. Thanks, I guess I will take that as official.

I can just picture a hero dodging these huge logs as they're hurled one after the other. Completely useless to attack a hero with ranged stuff. Except for crossbows and arbalests I guess. And longbows.

I think it would be a good offset of the Hill Giant vs Wood Giant if the Wood Giant were able to do a push-back like effect on the log toss. Thematically though, I suppose both should be treated equally.

I haven't played any Heroes yet, but at first blush, I do like that ranged attacks aren't as effective against them.

Yeah...I like moving my Warrior hero into the trees and into Strongholds and the like, because his 6d attack (2d + skill + artifact) can't be hampered by terrain. And his Warding Bracers artifact allow for him to ignore one hit - so that leaves 1d for a hit AND a casualty check in most circumstances Then on top of that, Common Bows have no effect on him! Except in melee of course.

I'm gonna miss him when it's time to retire him to the War Council...