In recent films and tv shows Force Healing has made an appearance and Star Wars has finally jumped the shark. Why haven't Jedi just done this in the past? Why have brave and wonderful people needlessly died? Why has anyone died when it is apparently needless? It appears that Resurrection and Cure Serious Wounds have made it into the Star Wars setting because nobody apparently thinks this stuff through. I have to wonder if the movie making folks are determined to kill Star Wars.

9 minutes ago, Archlyte said:

In recent films and tv shows Force Healing has made an appearance and Star Wars has finally jumped the shark. Why haven't Jedi just done this in the past? Why have brave and wonderful people needlessly died? Why has anyone died when it is apparently needless? It appears that Resurrection and Cure Serious Wounds have made it into the Star Wars setting because nobody apparently thinks this stuff through. I have to wonder if the movie making folks are determined to kill Star Wars.

Oh please, people have been saying that Ben used healing on Luke in New Hope when he put his hands on his heads, and is in fact, pretty much the "canon" justification for them adding this cleric spell to Star Wars in the first place.

And why they don't just casually use it in narrative settings, is the same reason they never use it in ANY type of storytelling that includes healer types. It removes tension. It's only something that is used when it's dramatically appropriate. So even though there are movies/shows where the setting allows for healing potions, and magical healing, they will still kill off characters and ignore the whole mechanic stuff because that's how storytelling works.

Star Wars always pulls new Force tricks out of it's franchise butt when it wants to, it's done it with every film pretty much.

In addition to KFF's points, TROS displayed healing as a giving of one's life force to heal another. In order for Ben to save Rey, he gave her his energy. Now some creatures, like Baby Yoda may have a better way to do this but that's a fairly strong limitation.

22 hours ago, Varlie said:

In addition to KFF's points, TROS displayed healing as a giving of one's life force to heal another. In order for Ben to save Rey, he gave her his energy. Now some creatures, like Baby Yoda may have a better way to do this but that's a fairly strong limitation.

With regards to Ben, it was my impression that he was pretty much running on fumes at that point, and spent what little life energy he had left to pull Rey back from death, doing what his grandfather couldn't and save the one he loved. It's my guess that doing a full-blown resurrection would probably have taken a toll on a perfectly hale and hearty Ben Solo, though likely not a lethal one. Rey's use of life energy transfer on Ben happened before he'd actually died, so it probably wasn't as demanding as bringing back someone that's been dead for a few minutes (her eyes were glazed over and her skin was starting to grey, indicating she was well and truly dead at that point).

Thus far, we've not see the Yodaling do anything close to that (thus far at least), and the series does show that major Force usage on its part leaves the little guy exhausted, such as lifting and holding the mudhorn in the air for a couple minutes required him to sleep for at least several hours.

Side note: We've also had Filoni's Clone Wars, where the Mon Cal ex-Padawan of Kit Fisto used Force healing himself on injured Clone Troopers, so it's not like Force-based healing is completely new to the rebooted canon, given that said series is part of the current canon.

On ‎12‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 9:44 PM, Archlyte said:

In recent films and tv shows Force Healing has made an appearance and Star Wars has finally jumped the shark. Why haven't Jedi just done this in the past? Why have brave and wonderful people needlessly died? Why has anyone died when it is apparently needless? It appears that Resurrection and Cure Serious Wounds have made it into the Star Wars setting because nobody apparently thinks this stuff through. I have to wonder if the movie making folks are determined to kill Star Wars.

Because it's a skill that not everyone masters.

I mean, the Jedi in the PT were exceedingly arrogant and detached from the galaxy, with most of them displaying fairly medicocar development beyond the main heroes of the pie ce so it's probably something character's of a certain aptitude could manifest. I'm of the opinion that the force itself manifests differently depending on the individual's mentality and desire. Rey's ability to heal stems from her nature most probably, same with that of Kylo. So it's manifestations and usage have been pretty limited thus far with no indication that just anyone can do it, plus it's only ever been used in times of relative peace. Compared to the sterile Jedi of the PT who believed themselves instruments of the Republic? They were probably so out of touch that many of them just lacked the connection or perspective to learn it themselves.

That's the thing really, Star Wars has always been high fantasy, so I for one am really pleased that they decided to really amp up the antie for this particular instalment. I mean, everything aside from the final set piece (which, you really shouldn't be reading for spoilers) is stuff easily replicated in the basic system of the campaign, is plot relevant or indicates a greater ritual that a singular force user cannot preform alone (e.g. a ritual involving thousands of individuals contributing their life forces, or the force bond that is exclusive to Kylo and Rey.). So yeah, not much has changed just the system seems to be embracing it's high fantasy roots indicated in the OT.

Force resurrection you say...

I know it's not the same thing.

I chalk most of the over-the-top Force powers the sequel films as being the result of Abram's deeply impaired sense of scale and his fetishistic compulsion to ramp everything up to ELEVEN .

He has no qualms about "breaking the Force" (or the franchise) in pursuit of a tent-pole spectacle.

As a result, I feel free to ignore some of them and interpret others as being limited to rare masters or unique individuals.

Ignore: ForceTime communication? Nope. Instantaneous matter transport? Nope. Fleet-destroying force lightning? Nope.

Interpret: Becoming a force ghost or rapid regenerative healing or resurrection? That's something only a few in any generation might attain.

A rare Sith Lord or Jedi Master? A Skywalker? A Yodaling? No problem.

On 12/24/2019 at 4:50 PM, Donovan Morningfire said:

With regards to Ben, it was my impression that he was pretty much running on fumes at that point, and spent what little life energy he had left to pull Rey back from death, doing what his grandfather couldn't and save the one he loved.

This I found to be a really subtle and cool nod to Ben's character arc, as he began the series in the Force Awakens with one of his first lines being to Vader's helmet, "I will finish what you started."

While he intended it to mean something else at the time, he fulfills this oath in a way truly meaningful to the spirit of Anakin, his grandfather.

13 hours ago, Kyla said:

This I found to be a really subtle and cool nod to Ben's character arc, as he began the series in the Force Awakens with one of his first lines being to Vader's helmet, "I will finish what you started."

While he intended it to mean something else at the time, he fulfills this oath in a way truly meaningful to the spirit of Anakin, his grandfather.

My thoughts exactly.

Regarding the main subject of this topic:

In terms of Force Healing, I took it as this power was something Rey had learned from the Sacred Jedi Texts!™ That being the case, it would explain why Jedi of the movies had yet to use the power: They didn't know about it, it was lost knowledge on Ach-To. Why could Ben use it? He saw and experienced Rey do it, and they have that neat little Force Bond that allows them to easily feel what the other person is thinking or feeling. The Power was a massive foreshadowing, or as I like to call it, Force-shadowing. Rey explicitly calls out that she's transferring her own Force energy to the snake early in the film. It's an entirely selfless ability, not something that the Jedi of the republic would necessarily do, would they have even known about it. Pretty obvious where that plot point was heading. Especially since Rey had already saved the day, and since this is a massive retread of the Original trilogy, Ben had to somehow selflessly sacrifice himself by the end of the movie.

The child in the Mandalorian must be using the Force instinctually, and I have got to think his parents were Force Sensitive as well, because he's done quite a few powerful things. It's pretty established at this point, especially after this new trilogy, that if you're pulling off insane powers without much training, it's because you're from a lineage of strong Force users.

Really the one thing I found weird in this movie was that Rey was having trouble contacting the Cosmic Force and reaching out to the Jedi of the past, and that there was apparently some sort of training she needed to do (this training is mentioned at the end of Revenge of the Sith by Yoda to Obi-Wan) that Luke just got a freaking pass on. Talk about a Marty Stu amiright? That guy can just talk to Blue Glowy's without even trying.

On 12/26/2019 at 6:10 PM, Vondy said:

I chalk most of the over-the-top Force powers the sequel films as being the result of Abram's deeply impaired sense of scale and his fetishistic compulsion to ramp everything up to ELEVEN .

He has no qualms about "breaking the Force" (or the franchise) in pursuit of a tent-pole spectacle.

As a result, I feel free to ignore some of them and interpret others as being limited to rare masters or unique individuals.

Ignore: ForceTime communication? Nope. Instantaneous matter transport? Nope. Fleet-destroying force lightning? Nope.

Interpret: Becoming a force ghost or rapid regenerative healing or resurrection? That's something only a few in any generation might attain.

A rare Sith Lord or Jedi Master? A Skywalker? A Yodaling? No problem.

Which is exactly the reason we see Han jumping into Hyperspace from within a hangar and ending the jump within the gravity well which then led to Hyperspace skipping

34 minutes ago, Varlie said:

Which is exactly the reason we see Han jumping into Hyperspace from within a hangar and ending the jump within the gravity well which then led to Hyperspace skipping

Pretty much.

On 12/27/2019 at 11:28 PM, GroggyGolem said:

In terms of Force Healing, I took it as this power was something Rey had learned from the Sacred Jedi Texts!™ That being the case, it would explain why Jedi of the movies had yet to use the power: They didn't know about it, it was lost knowledge on Ach-To. Why could Ben use it? He saw and experienced Rey do it, and they have that neat little Force Bond that allows them to easily feel what the other person is thinking or feeling. The Power was a massive foreshadowing, or as I like to call it, Force-shadowing. Rey explicitly calls out that she's transferring her own Force energy to the snake early in the film. It's an entirely selfless ability, not something that the Jedi of the republic would necessarily do, would they have even known about it.

I honestly hadn't considered that Rey's time with the Jedi Texts would have taught her this - but I really should have, it makes sense. I think I had always assumed that it was just a really intense use of the Force healing that we see Old Ben do to Luke, and Baby Yoda do in the Mandalorian. I think it really is fitting though that this would be a power that she learned from old texts that were thought to be lost, though, as a long running theme in the prequels was the idea that there was more to the Force than what the Jedi knew. Qui-Gon's entire purpose in the films was to convey this idea; that the Jedi weren't the "masters of the Force" but rather an aging orthodoxy that had become out of touch with the Force they claimed to be serving. It connects her to Qui-Gon's spirit of discovery, closing a much needed thematic loop in the movies.

2 hours ago, Kyla said:

I honestly hadn't considered that Rey's time with the Jedi Texts would have taught her this - but I really should have, it makes sense. I think I had always assumed that it was just a really intense use of the Force healing that we see Old Ben do to Luke, and Baby Yoda do in the Mandalorian. I think it really is fitting though that this would be a power that she learned from old texts that were thought to be lost, though, as a long running theme in the prequels was the idea that there was more to the Force than what the Jedi knew. Qui-Gon's entire purpose in the films was to convey this idea; that the Jedi weren't the "masters of the Force" but rather an aging orthodoxy that had become out of touch with the Force they claimed to be serving. It connects her to Qui-Gon's spirit of discovery, closing a much needed thematic loop in the movies.

See that's what I find funny about the Ben/Luke scene in New Hope. It feels like a huge fan butt pull to say it was healing. Because when I was a kid, watching that movie, my first thought about what Ben was doing was simply just "checking his vitals", like any person reasonably knowledgeable of medical stuff would. Luke basically just fell and bonked his head, which, while in the real world means potential for a serious brain injury or concussion, in movies, bonking your brain is one of the most non-lethal things that can happen to you. I distinctly remember as a kid thinking "Oh, Luke just got his bell rung, not a big deal, people get their heads bonked all the time, and just take a quick nap before waking up just fine. And Ben even said 'oh don't worry, he'll be alright.' So clearly the injury wasn't anything big." So it amuses me to no end to see the fans fill in this mystic healing power, from just an old dude checking a kid who got slightly startled, and fell back.

But yeah Rey pulling new tricks out of her butt isn't a big deal, literally every installment has done this in the franchise, without any establishment of it being something possible. Some Force user just does a new thing, that helps them win the fight they are in. I do think having Kylo be the first to yoink an object through the Force was a bit odd, as I think it would've made more sense for Rey to accidentally do that, given her studying of "ancient and forgotten abilities." I also think, while the scene with the beads was cool, it was incredibly redundant for finding them at that festival planet.

47 minutes ago, KungFuFerret said:

I do think having Kylo be the first to yoink an object through the Force was a bit odd

He realizes it's possible to transfer matter like that in TLJ, when he notices the drop of water on his clothes after his psychic talk with Rey.

2 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

He realizes it's possible to transfer matter like that in TLJ, when he notices the drop of water on his clothes after his psychic talk with Rey.

Oooh yeah, I forgot about that water bit in TLJ. Wow, I totally forgot they foreshadowed it in that film. Huh.

Well, I still think it was a redundant scene, especially since they established at the beginning of the festival scene that they needed to keep their heads down, so they didn't get spotted by FO patrols. Given that the very next scene after Kylo snatches the beads is a trooper (presumably already stationed there, or else why warn them to keep their heads down) say they spotted the rebels. It seemed far more clean of a story beat, to just do one or the other. Either have the FO not have a presence on the planet at all, and thus they need the bead investigation scene to get the lead, or have the FO there, and just let them call in the spot. To have the FO officer tell Kylo "we've analyzed the beads, they are on Planet X." and then immediately follow it with a trooper going "I've spotted them." is just a waste of screen time for duplication of plot points.

Now, that being said, I LIKE the bead snatching scene, it's good, and clever, I just think the usefulness of it, is lessened by the followup trooper scene of "I've found them!" which he then reports to the command.

10 minutes ago, KungFuFerret said:

Oooh yeah, I forgot about that water bit in TLJ. Wow, I totally forgot they foreshadowed it in that film. Huh.

Well, I still think it was a redundant scene, especially since they established at the beginning of the festival scene that they needed to keep their heads down, so they didn't get spotted by FO patrols. Given that the very next scene after Kylo snatches the beads is a trooper (presumably already stationed there, or else why warn them to keep their heads down) say they spotted the rebels. It seemed far more clean of a story beat, to just do one or the other. Either have the FO not have a presence on the planet at all, and thus they need the bead investigation scene to get the lead, or have the FO there, and just let them call in the spot. To have the FO officer tell Kylo "we've analyzed the beads, they are on Planet X." and then immediately follow it with a trooper going "I've spotted them." is just a waste of screen time for duplication of plot points.

Now, that being said, I LIKE the bead snatching scene, it's good, and clever, I just think the usefulness of it, is lessened by the followup trooper scene of "I've found them!" which he then reports to the command.

That one didn't really bug me. It came across to me as the FO having a presence there, but not specifically looking for those characters. Kylo snatches the beads, and they determine the group is on Passana. The force stationed at Passana is alerted and finds their specific targets. Given how much of TLJ the movie's script went out of its way to contradict at one level or another, I'm surprised they not only kept but leaned into the matter transference.

17 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

That one didn't really bug me. It came across to me as the FO having a presence there, but not specifically looking for those characters. Kylo snatches the beads, and they determine the group is on Passana. The force stationed at Passana is alerted and finds their specific targets. Given how much of TLJ the movie's script went out of its way to contradict at one level or another, I'm surprised they not only kept but leaned into the matter transference.

Yeah it wasn't a big issue for me, but it was one that definitely stood out to me. Because my immediate thought when he snatched the beads, after "whoa, that's new." was "ok, well now they know where to find them, on to the next scene where they are being pursued and running for their lives." and instead we have another shot of "hey, this is establishing that we have found them to start the pursuit" and i was thinking "...yeah movie, we got that, you established that with the bead analysis scene immediately before this." Again, not a big issue, but in a film filled with a ton of tiny things that were extraneous, while simultaneously trying to shove a ton of new stuff at us at 90miles per hour before barreling to the climax, it felt like a good thing to just edit out for time and pacing.

OT, the healing thing of the big snake seemed a bit...off to me. Not the fact that they had a scene of her healing something to establish she knows the power for the later use. That's fine. It's just that they chose a random animal in a tunnel instead of something else. I think it would've been neater to have her heal somebody at the festival. Like the little girl she was talking to for example. Have them get a small injury of some kind. Not life threatening, but still, a definite wound, and let her heal it to make the person feel better. And have Finn or Poe or someone notice her do it, so she can explain the whole "it's transferring energy from me to them" thing. I mean, the "we have inserted this giant unnamed snake monster into this scene, for the sole purpose of letting Rey heal it to establish that power" scene was so glaringly there for that reason only, that it just felt like it was casting too big of a spotlight on the act itself.

I think it would've been better served to the story, and again, allow for better pacing and flow, to have it be done with the festival people. It would give us more time with them, as they were far more interesting than Random Nameless Snake Monster. And it would've helped to establish Rey's more Light side, healing nature. How she would still feel compelled to heal a little girl, even with it being a risk to being spotted by the FO, because she can't stand to see people in pain when she could help them. Then later, when she heals Ben, it would feel more...I dunno the word...fluid I guess? Fitting? I mean, showing empathy to what looks like a stereotypically evil character and healing it, might've been the point, implying that just because it's got fangs and hisses (like Kylo Ren), doesn't mean it isn't worthy of empathy and compassion. And if that was the case, ok fine. I don't think that was JJ's thoughts on the scene, given the other blunders throughout the film. I just would've liked for it to feel more fluid with the narrative flow. Instead of what was obviously an added scene, due to the harsh cut of the edit leading into it, just to establish she has Force Heal.

Again, not a big issue for me, quite low on my personal table of WTF choices for this film, but given it's connection to this thread's topic, it's what I can talk about

1 hour ago, Stan Fresh said:

He realizes it's possible to transfer matter like that in TLJ, when he notices the drop of water on his clothes after his psychic talk with Rey.

On the matter transference, I figured that's just an effect of the Force bond/dyad that Rey and Kylo had going. Rey was able to consciously hand over Anakin's lightsaber to Ben due to them being more or less in sync with one another during the climax, or at least she wasn't trying to shut Ben out any more.

It's not the sort of thing that other Force users can do at a whim with random individuals, at least in the current canon (or at least not yet). In Legends, you had the Aing-Tii monks who perceived the Force very differently, and could pretty much teleport objects, ranging from small hand-held items up to their starships.

1 hour ago, KungFuFerret said:

Now, that being said, I LIKE the bead snatching scene, it's good, and clever, I just think the usefulness of it, is lessened by the followup trooper scene of "I've found them!" which he then reports to the command.

Bit of a tangent, but I can't help but wonder if that's a side effect of the editing job. As I've had more time to mentally digest the film and talk with several friends who are far better versed in the ins and outs of movie making than I am, one thing that's come up is that several scenes, or sequences of scenes, make better sense if the order you see them in was edited better. Along with a few scenes that I couldn't but wonder " that 's the take you went with?"

The scene with the bead necklace is one of them, though admittedly it doesn't bug me all that much. It probably would have worked better if the scene where trooper who found the trio came after the FO analyst told Kylo what planet the necklace was from.

14 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Bit of a tangent, but I can't help but wonder if that's a side effect of the editing job. As I've had more time to mentally digest the film and talk with several friends who are far better versed in the ins and outs of movie making than I am, one thing that's come up is that several scenes, or sequences of scenes, make better sense if the order you see them in was edited better. Along with a few scenes that I couldn't but wonder " that 's the take you went with?"

The scene with the bead necklace is one of them, though admittedly it doesn't bug me all that much. It probably would have worked better if the scene where trooper who found the trio came after the FO analyst told Kylo what planet the necklace was from.

Yeah, I agree the placing of the scene would've improved it for me. Like, after we establish they've analyzed the beads, and after we see the cap ships jump into orbit, THEN the troopers see them running, to basically narrow down the search. Much smoother in my opinion. Again, not a huge issue, but it was definitely a point that made me let out a little huff of frustration, in a movie filled with huffs of frustration.

I just think it wasn't really needed is all. We don't need to see every single step of that type of thing. Showing the bead analysis scene, followed by the cap ship entry scene, and then cut to the treadbike pursuit is perfectly fine narratively as far as steps showing you how things have advanced. I remember...I think it's Jenny Nicholson on youtube, commenting about how many times they bothered with shots explicitly showing you someone stepping out of a ship they just showed landing, as if to stop people from complaining about "how did they get there?!". "See? She he stepped out of the ship right here." She was implying there are some things you can just gloss over narratively, that you don't have to hold the audiences hand very every...single...step along a specific scenes path. And normally, that's true. Except when fanboys are involved. Because they obsess over that crap. They will pause single frames of a film, to look for artifacts of editing, and then use those things to fabricate some crazy justification about how someone should've died or not died, etc. So then, subsequent projects feel compelled to overobsess with those same details, just to shut up the critics who obsess over them.

I find it all very exhausting and disheartening. But, what can you do? Fanboys are gonna fanboy about Star Wars.

My take on the choice to use the snake monster as the recipient of Heal is that it is a dangerous animal , a potential threat that could kill the party. As such, it strikes fear into the group, and their first instinct is to kill it, all except for Rey. It is because it is a dangerous “monster” , that her choosing to heal it instead of kill it gives the scene, and the reveal of the power much greater gravitas and impact than if it had been done to a little girl or other innocent bystander. It takes far more courage and conviction to help something scary and threatening than to help something cute and harmless.

I think one thing we've forgotten over the years is that.... the Original Trilogy always upped the ante on the Force, in a way that the Prequels never did. In The Last Jedi, Luke asks Rey, "What do you know of the Force?" To which Rey replies, "The Force is a power that Jedi have, that lets them control people... and lift rocks." And we of course laugh and say, "Oh how naive," but... that's what the Force had been reduced to for a long time.

In A New Hope, we see Luke gain a certain intuition, a sight beyond sight. We also see Obi-Wan preserve his consciousness beyond death.

In Empire, I posit that Luke taught himself Force Pull in the Wampa cave. The way the saber inches forward bit by bit indicates that it's not something that comes to him immediately. We'd never seen the Force do that before. Then we go to Dagobah, and Yoda's like, "Pfft. Lightsaber, X-Wing. Same difference."

And in Return of the Jedi we see Palpatine whip out that sweet Force Lightning.

And then the Force became stagnant. We never see anything in the Prequel trilogy that we hadn't seen before. There's this "Chosen One"... but he never does anything... chosen-one-y. He's just another guy lifting rocks and controling minds. Actually, we don't even see him do the mind control bit. Lift rocks and choke people. That's all any Jedi in the prequels ever does. At the height of their power, they were no more advanced in their training than the kid who got a week-long Jedi summer camp on Dagobah.

Video games made it worse, by reducing the Force to a "spellbook". All of these things are just "tricks" that Jedi can use. As if the Force has no will, no agency.

It wasn't until Dave Filoni and the Mortis arc that the Force became mystical again. Not just a spellbook, but an entity with will and agency, a character in its own right. Rey and Kylo certainly display a lot of raw power in the Force, but much of that power isn't in their direct control. Their connection happens at inconvenient times, the objects that pass between them are side effects of their actions, rather than intentional, the Force passing clues along to draw them together.

I think, more than any other installment of Star Wars, we see the will of the Force in action, guiding and directing, tying the strings of Fate together.

14 minutes ago, abookfulblockhead said:

Video games made it worse, by reducing the Force to a "spellbook". All of these things are just "tricks" that Jedi can use. As if the Force has no will, no agency.

Because it's never been shown to have a will, or agency of it's own. It's literally defined by Yoda as "an energy field." He didn't say anything about it being a conscious being that had some kind of agenda, that is equally worked against by it's opposite side, which is either itself but opposite (implying it's schizophrenic...yay, or 2 entities with will and agency).

16 minutes ago, abookfulblockhead said:

It wasn't until Dave Filoni and the Mortis arc that the Force became mystical again. Not just a spellbook, but an entity with will and agency, a character in its own right. Rey and Kylo certainly display a lot of raw power in the Force, but much of that power isn't in their direct control. Their connection happens at inconvenient times, the objects that pass between them are side effects of their actions, rather than intentional, the Force passing clues along to draw them together.

I think, more than any other installment of Star Wars, we see the will of the Force in action, guiding and directing, tying the strings of Fate together.

Again, there is no actual basis for the Force having a will, or agency of it's own, in the material made by Lucas. It's only until later creators start giving it more overt religious, and godlike traits. I mean a lot of the verbage, just replace the word Force, with god, and it sounds no different than any religious nonsense being spouted by people in real life.

And frankly, assigning the Force an actual will and agency, makes it into a horrible entity, when you actually look at what the heroes of the stories end up doing, or have done to them after they've fulfilled "The Will of the Force." Just look at Chirrut Imwe in Rogue One. That guy was a broken record about the Will of the Force, and then he has his final scene, and it's supposed to be all uplifting i guess? The Force protects him because he shows True Faith to the Will of the Force.....only to flip a switch, and then he's horribly killed once he no longer serves his purpose to the Will of the Force.

Your above quoted line implies that the Force has always had some "will", despite none of the original material supporting such a take on the Force. It is in fact, implied it is a mindless energy field, which makes things a lot less morally complicated about it. If it's just an energy field, with positive and negative traits, and the people USING it are where the applications of it come in, it's far easier to use, without accidentally making some unfortunate comparisons to bad ideas in philosophy and morality. Because if it has a will, and agency, and thus a mind, with comprehension and thought, then you have The Problem of Evil, which is frankly just too much junk to bother with in a franchise made to sell kids toys. Filoni seems to be an ok writer from what I've seen, though I got really tired of Rebels around the time that big Force alien was introduced, but giving the Force a Will, is just a Bad Idea. For one, it's a lazy writing crutch, no better than saying "It's all according to god's will." Which is lame in real life, and in storytelling. And it gives sinister implications to the things that happen, and why.

I mean hey, it's all good that Anakin slaughtered children, murdered thousands by his own hand, and plunged the galaxy into the fascist grip of a tyrannical dictator, because in the end, he still enacted the Will of the Force, brought balance to it, by throwing said dictator to his death(but not really). So everything is good! Hurray the Will of the Force and it's benevolent plan with Fate! It's a GOOD thing that all those children were murdered! Because their lives simply paved the way for a better future later! Built on the corpses of the innocent beings for 2 decades of oppression!

Force users can have their own, relatively unique powers. They can also excel at certain powers while struggling with others.

The skywalker bloodline seems to be able to utilize their force senses into making them above average pilots. While other Jedi suck at piloting. They also appear to be pretty talented at bind/move type powers. Palpy really liked the lightning. Some excel at combat, others don't. Not all Jedi are equally as skilled with all powers. Some powers are more rare than others.

But why are you asking about why Jedi/force users can suddenly heal in a forum for a game with a force power called heal with lets you heal other people. Healing has been part of Star Wars for a long time. Palpatine talked about it in the prequels. It's shown up numerous times in video games, comics, novels.