Just now, Jo Jo said:

A lot of words to say that this pilot will never be fielded.

I think he'll see play. It's networked calculations, basically. Synergizes with Zizi too.

Wait missles and torpedoes can be reloaded?

3 minutes ago, chr335 said:

Wait missles and torpedoes can be reloaded?

Sure, with the reload action.

29 minutes ago, Jo Jo said:

A lot of words to say that this pilot will never be fielded.

I disagree here. I think it’s good in a multi ship lists especially awing swarm. There’s often leftover focuses. And at ps 2 you’ll be able to spend them after the enemy is done shooting.

but we’ll see I guess

39 minutes ago, JBFancourt said:

Reminds me of the 1.0 Deci Pilot. Forget who..... because.... you know.... it was a horrible ability.

Captain Kenkirk. My favorite Decimator pilot. Kenkirk, Dark Curse, Night Beast, Academy Pilot: the PS and defense were finally enough to put a stop to my friend's Han squad (Han + 3 Talas), and it made me very happy.

30 minutes ago, Parakitor said:

Captain Kenkirk. My favorite Decimator pilot. Kenkirk, Dark Curse, Night Beast, Academy Pilot: the PS and defense were finally enough to put a stop to my friend's Han squad (Han + 3 Talas), and it made me very happy.

Kenkirk also worked very nicely with Palpatine.

Its gonna by tricky to cost the s-foils.

You are trading a moded 3 dice primary for an unmoded primary and and an unmoded cannon. And you still have to pay for the cannon. Some quick math doesn't show too much improved damage ON AVERAGE while using either autoblaster or ion cannon (Going from 1.8 to 2 expected damage at range 2). Now splitting the damage in two attacks will have very different results depending on who you are attacking.

On the other hand, Braylen with Adv. Protorp and Autoblaster does a whooping 5.2 expected hits (5.8 if in bulls-eye!).

1 hour ago, GuacCousteau said:

Like who, though?

Who doesn't mind getting stressed that you'd want alongside Gina?

Any X-wing or Y-Wing with R4 equipped. They don’t get use of the blues every turn.

Shes not going to get the easy double mods of Ten Numb, but she has the benefit of higher initiative and consistently shedding her stress.

Overall I like her design.

The B-Wings in these two pictures are identical (size, position, lighting and orientation) with the only difference being the S-Foils and the background...I notice weird things

"There is another."

My heart!

To me, she will always be royalty.

3 hours ago, LUZ_TAK said:

Rebel Leia with a Force score? Mhh...strange.

Why is it strange; she's defintely skilled in the ways of the force (and it's only 1) I could argue she should have "2"

1 hour ago, Phelan Boots said:

Any X-wing or Y-Wing with R4 equipped. They don’t get use of the blues every turn.

Shes not going to get the easy double mods of Ten Numb, but she has the benefit of higher initiative and consistently shedding her stress.

Overall I like her design.

Ezra in the Rebel Tie, Attack Shuttle and Sheathipede wants stress (as does his gunner card), Porkins can get rid of it for a cost, Cassian can get rid of it next turn, Hera crew lets you do reds even with it, Kanan crew lets you shed it easier, Leia lets you ignore it for a turn when moving, the two other B-Wings really want stress.

The rebels have a bunch of ways to either use or negate the fact that you took a stress off another ship. Even if it's doubled your stress! I think Gina will find some great wingmates and combos when she hits the tables and she'll be talon rolling all over the place.

9 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

"There is another."

My heart!

To me, she will always be royalty.

They got me with that one-two combo, first K2 was "Cassian said I had to." Then Leia.

Laugh, cry, repeat.

@DerRitter They should have the foils as a zero cost. They're a ship configuration card that's part of the core of that ship, it's not like it's an alternate one that's enhanced. (Just two years late.) The same way that the '65, '70, and U, all have their cost set up.

If it's zero cost, they then adjust the pilots since they all interact with the config differently. This allows more point cost control instead of trying to juggle a config 'tax'. Additionally they don't have to balance around two costs that could be fielded this way.

Yes it's a new upgrade card, but it's likely not intended as an upgrade cost. Really it's the first 'fix' fire second edition.

1 minute ago, Cgriffith said:

Why is it strange; she's defintely skilled in the ways of the force (and it's only 1) I could argue she should have "2"

I'd say at the point the card is 'representing', she'd have one. She has natural, instinctive ways to use the force but doesn't quite realise it yet and hasn't had any training at all. One is fine.

Anyhow, Leia looks solid. Simply being a YT-1300 with a force charge is nice. She doesn't need to stick close to asteroids to get her "Target Lock" like Han, she doesn't need to do blue moves like Lando, she just gets her free "Caclulate" for being the best. She's got access to a full white dial if she takes an Engine Upgrade, and can even trade her Force for a Focus when she pulls a red move.

Of course, it'll all come down to price. If she's like Rey or Asajj relative to the other pilots of the Mod YT-1300, I can see her being good. If she's priced like Kanan, probably not.

4 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

She's got access to a full white dial if she takes an Engine Upgrade, and can even trade her Force for a Focus when she pulls a red move.

which is get to have (that flexibility of a passive mod), when stressed.

I'll say this also about Leia's cost: Both Lando and Han essentially have "free action" pilot abilities. I don't think Leia will cost much more, or at least she probably shouldn't.

16 minutes ago, Cgriffith said:

Why is it strange; she's defintely skilled in the ways of the force (and it's only 1) I could argue she should have "2"

I think its more strange she's I5 while Chewie is I4. Is she really a better pilot in the Falcon than Chewie?

2 minutes ago, Jo Jo said:

I think its more strange she's I5 while Chewie is I4. Is she really a better pilot in the Falcon than Chewie?

Well in canon she's a superb pilot, especially with the few secret missions she participated in, even eliminating a squadron of attackers to save Shara Bey from certain death (Poe Dameron's mother) Leia was in an N-1 Starfighter while doing so (and yes it canon)

3 minutes ago, Jo Jo said:

I think its more strange she's I5 while Chewie is I4. Is she really a better pilot in the Falcon than Chewie?

I think that's why they switched it to initiative instead of skill in 2nd. She is faster not necessarily better.

23 minutes ago, ForceSensitive said:

They got me with that one-two combo, first K2 was "Cassian said I had to." Then Leia.

Laugh, cry, repeat.

@DerRitter They should have the foils as a zero cost. They're a ship configuration card that's part of the core of that ship, it's not like it's an alternate one that's enhanced. (Just two years late.) The same way that the '65, '70, and U, all have their cost set up.

If it's zero cost, they then adjust the pilots since they all interact with the config differently. This allows more point cost control instead of trying to juggle a config 'tax'. Additionally they don't have to balance around two costs that could be fielded this way.

Yes it's a new upgrade card, but it's likely not intended as an upgrade cost. Really it's the first 'fix' fire second edition.

I don't really have a preference, but for discussion sake - costing the pilots instead of the foils punishes players who haven't bought the card pack.

For all we know, not every B-Wing has stabilized s-foils, so it doesn't have to be a core mechanic.

4 hours ago, MegaSilver said:

He turns into the 3rd tankiest ship in the game, only beat by Deci and YV-666 w/reinforce. And the chassis is more maneuverable than either of those.

I have some concerns about calling a ship that relies on a 4-forward “more maneuverable” than a double turret primary and a 180° arc.

Technically true, but misleading.

I think the really interesting question about Leia is, will she get an Elite slot instead of a Force slot, like Baby Ani? I think she should, she wasn’t highly trained in the force at this point. I don’t think there are any interesting combos to abuse. Lone Wolf Liea is “fine” with soft passive mods every turn.

32 minutes ago, dsul413 said:

I don't really have a preference, but for discussion sake - costing the pilots instead of the foils punishes players who haven't bought the card pack.

For all we know, not every B-Wing has stabilized s-foils, so it doesn't have to be a core mechanic.

Good points. But all work around able.

The config position can be proxies, so if you don't have one handy, no big. Heck the ship itself could be your indicator as long as you have a new one. This was apparent back in 1.0 when there were a few cards that were fixes that cost zero as well(Prototype pilot, Integrated Astro). For tournaments you technically required the card, but that was it.

And the stabilize could just be a descriptor to have a unique name(for interaction proofing), that still references the gyro-bananas qualities of the B. Because we do know that every B-wing does have foils.

26 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

I have some concerns about calling a ship that relies on a 4-forward “more maneuverable” than a double turret primary and a 180° arc.

Technically true, but misleading.

Well, it has a kturn as well, unlike the other two.