I always thought "Solo" would have benefited from leaning into the "Dukes of Hazard without the casual racism" vibe of some of the trailers.
Imagine the occasional freeze frame with some folksy Woody Harrelson* narration "Now about this time ol' Han and Chewie had a little trouble coming their way..."

But hey, we got Ron Howard and he ain't bad.**

*I would have killed Beckett and kept Val, but that's another tangent.
**Speaking of narration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6XERmXsP-U

8 minutes ago, Aluminium Falcon said:

I always thought "Solo" would have benefited from leaning into the "Dukes of Hazard without the casual racism" vibe of some of the trailers.
Imagine the occasional freeze frame with some folksy Woody Harrelson* narration "Now about this time ol' Han and Chewie had a little trouble coming their way..."

But hey, we got Ron Howard and he ain't bad.**

*I would have killed Beckett and kept Val, but that's another tangent.
**Speaking of narration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6XERmXsP-U

I wouldn't be surprised if that's what Lord and Miller had in mind when they were directing.

I think, at the time, since Solo is more tied to the Skywalker Saga, LFL didn't want to go with that kind of comedy vibe, but now that the Saga is over, I could see them leaning into that. Marvel's approach of "superhero movie with another genre on-top" works really well for them, so Star Wars going "space opera + other genre" might be a good way to go.

It worked for Rogue One and it seems the Disney+ shows may take the route too. Mandalorian = space opera + western, Obi-Wan show = space opera + samurai story, Cassian show = space opera + spy thriller, ect.

14 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

While I agree, I didn’t see hate so much as apathy. Quite public tales of the production problems made some conclude in advance that it would be a hot mess, so they’d just stay away. And it wasn’t helped by being released so soon in the wake of Infinity War’s release, with that movie far out-performing even the most optimistic predictions at the box office. (Marvel/Disney knew it was going to be big...they didn’t count on it being as big as it ended up being.) It was a perfect storm of little things that didn’t reflect on the final product just sort of leaving it left out.

Yeah, I can’t argue with that at all... I think a Christmas release would have seen it do a lot better!
Have heard a lot of people say bad things about the movie though... most of which I think were unjustified, especially around Aiden (can never remember his 2nd name... and for that matter have probably got his 1st name wrong 🤣)’s portrayal of Han being unbelievable. Personally I liked the guy as Han, thought he did a great job!

Donald Glover's Lando was easily the best thing about the film.

I'd happily watch a series, or more films focusing on his escapades.

If the current structure were in place, Solo likely would have been a Disney+ limited series (like Kenobi - or whatever it ends up being called - is shaping up to be), and would have done well. I’d love to see a follow-up in that format.

2 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

If the current structure were in place, Solo likely would have been a Disney+ limited series (like Kenobi - or whatever it ends up being called - is shaping up to be), and would have done well. I’d love to see a follow-up in that format.

There is a real chance that Kenobi is the follow-up to Solo.

7 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

There is a real chance that Kenobi is the follow-up to Solo.

By definition, a Kenobi series starring Ewan McGregor is not a series about the further adventures of young Han Solo starring Alden Ehrenreich and Joonas Suotamo. 😏

5 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

By definition, a Kenobi series starring Ewan McGregor is not a series about the further adventures of young Han Solo starring Alden Ehrenreich and Joonas Suotamo. 😏

But it could be dealing with Crimson Dawn....

6 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

But it could be dealing with Crimson Dawn....

Right, but I was referring to a more direct follow-up. In other words, due to its performance, a direct sequel is unlikely on the big screen, but would be a great fit for a Disney+ show. (Not being clear enough about that is on me.)

I’m not sure how I’d feel about Crimson Dawn appearing in Kenobi. The biggest reason to connect the two - Maul - would either require Obi-Wan to temporarily abandon his self-appointed mission to safeguard Luke and go off world (which still could happen in the show with or without Crimson Dawn) or Maul to be a complete idiot to need the holocrons to learn Obi-Wan’s on Tatooine in Rebels if they encounter one another on Tatooine in this series.

8 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

Right, but I was referring to a more direct follow-up. In other words, due to its performance, a direct sequel is unlikely on the big screen, but would be a great fit for a Disney+ show. (Not being clear enough about that is on me.)

I’m not sure how I’d feel about Crimson Dawn appearing in Kenobi. The biggest reason to connect the two - Maul - would either require Obi-Wan to temporarily abandon his self-appointed mission to safeguard Luke and go off world (which still could happen in the show with or without Crimson Dawn) or Maul to be a complete idiot to need the holocrons to learn Obi-Wan’s on Tatooine in Rebels if they encounter one another on Tatooine in this series.

Well if Crimson Dawn works like it did in Solo Crimson Dawn wouldnt deal dirctly with Maul but with Qi'ra or her minions

37 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

Right, but I was referring to a more direct follow-up. In other words, due to its performance, a direct sequel is unlikely on the big screen, but would be a great fit for a Disney+ show. (Not being clear enough about that is on me.)

I’m not sure how I’d feel about Crimson Dawn appearing in Kenobi. The biggest reason to connect the two - Maul - would either require Obi-Wan to temporarily abandon his self-appointed mission to safeguard Luke and go off world (which still could happen in the show with or without Crimson Dawn) or Maul to be a complete idiot to need the holocrons to learn Obi-Wan’s on Tatooine in Rebels if they encounter one another on Tatooine in this series.

IIRC at the time Solo was being made, the two direct follow-ups being rumoured about were Boba Fett and Kenobi. Solo 2 was never even hinted at. I didn't believe it at the time, but then the Kenobi show got greenlit.

I doubt Obi-Wan is going to mess around on boring old Tatooine for an entire series (seriously, can we please retire this location already, it wasn't all that interesting in 1977, and it hasn't improved since then). If Obi-wan got word that, say, somebody nefarious on Zeltros is seriously looking into what happened to Padme's kids, he'd have to go and investigate, wouldn't he?

55 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Well if Crimson Dawn works like it did in Solo Crimson Dawn wouldnt deal dirctly with Maul but with Qi'ra or her minions

From a storytelling perspective, I’d say that the strongest reason to use Crimson Dawn in an Obi-Wan story would be the Obi-Wan/Maul connection. Taking advantage of that still brings us to the same hurdles: finding a compelling reason for him to leave Luke unprotected or undercutting Maul’s search for him (chronologically) later.

15 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

IIRC at the time Solo was being made, the two direct follow-ups being rumoured about were Boba Fett and Kenobi. Solo 2 was never even hinted at. I didn't believe it at the time, but then the Kenobi show got greenlit.

Those were indeed the two “A Star Wars Story” ideas that had the most public profile. I wasn’t saying that there was any (public) talk of a direct sequel to Solo, but if it had done better box office, I think it’s safe to say that one would have been inevitable. I mean, Rogue One ended with all of the central characters dead, but we’re still getting a prequel on Disney+.

18 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

I doubt Obi-Wan is going to mess around on boring old Tatooine for an entire series (seriously, can we please retire this location already, it wasn't all that interesting in 1977, and it hasn't improved since then). If Obi-wan got word that, say, somebody nefarious on Zeltros is seriously looking into what happened to Padme's kids, he'd have to go and investigate, wouldn't he?

He may be there the whole run, or may not. The comics have given us a few issues of him there. We don’t know how many episodes we’re looking at; we don’t really know much about it. As mentioned above, it would depend largely on what kind of impetus they might come up with for him to leave behind what he thinks is a pretty important task to head off world. (I realize you were just spitballing an idea, but there’s not much reason for anyone to go looking for Padme’s kids; even she seemed to have no idea there was more than one, and when we see her funeral procession, she’s been made to appear as if she died while still pregnant. I get what you’re going for, though.)

1 hour ago, micheldebruyn said:

seriously, can we please retire this location already

I love Tatooine. I would like to see it fleshed out more. What I don’t need is more shots of the cantina or Mos Eisley, but as a planet? There must be a lot more to the place.

4 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

I love Tatooine. I would like to see it fleshed out more. What I don’t need is more shots of the cantina or Mos Eisley, but as a planet? There must be a lot more to the place.

apparently not....

3 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

apparently not....

Define “apparently”...

1 minute ago, DanteRotterdam said:

Define “apparently”...

Well given we keep going to the same places on Tatooine that is all there is....

You are aware that it is a make believe place?

3 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

You are aware that it is a make believe place?

People have had 40+ years now to make up bits of tatooine that don't look like Mos Eisley. Realisticilly speaking, It's not going to happen.

26 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

You are aware that it is a make believe place?

22 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

People have had 40+ years now to make up bits of tatooine that don't look like Mos Eisley. Realisticilly speaking, It's not going to happen.

Pretty much. Which is unfortunate....

I see no problem with it particularly. The exciting action never happens in the hamlets of the planet, Mos Eisley is probably the closest thing that planet has to a capital and by it's expression, it is/was a major hub of activity that any bounty hunter/person of dubious history would check into. Much as it's a tad cliché, it also makes a good deal of sense given it's established hub of generally dubious activity; though it's kind of indicated that the port has seen a serious downturn since Jabba kicked the bucket.

That being said I have the very distinct feeling that going too deep into Tatooine's landscape would likely end up being very similar to Dune. Makes me wonder.

5 minutes ago, LordBritish said:

That being said I have the very distinct feeling that going too deep into Tatooine's landscape would likely end up being very similar to Dune. Makes me wonder.

Only if Krayt Dragons start coughing up hyperspace fuel instead of lazer sword customisation trinkets.

Star Wars' specific limitation is that most planets have one biome and a handful of settings, as analogs to cities and towns in a earthbound adventure. Of course, those old concept illustrations of Star Wars 1313 suggest it's not impossible to add depth to a location, but before long you're moving away from Star Wars. Really, you're better off taking the story to another planet instead.

2 hours ago, micheldebruyn said:

Only if Krayt Dragons start coughing up hyperspace fuel instead of lazer sword customisation trinkets.

You're thinking of Zillow Beasts...

35 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

You're thinking of Zillow Beasts...

The Zillo Beasts were poisoned by Malastare's fuel.

Well... The Obi-Wan series has experienced quite some setback. Production has been paused and scripts are being rewritten....