I'm starting up legion with a couple of friends. My main opponent plays Rebels, and he has recruited one more player who plays Empire. A third friend might be joining us as the Separatists.

I'm an empire man at heart. But I dont really like blue on blue. Not much interested in rebels.

I've also been looking at The Galactic republic, and the separatists. The GRs main attraction is no blue on blue, but I'm struggling to find much inspiration for them. I could definitely use some help!

Could someone make the case for each of the three for me? What's cool about them? What units can we expect in the future? How do they play? Cool pics of units that inspire?

With any luck this could be a thread with lots of inspiration for each of these factions for anyone in the same situation as me.

I appreciate the help guys

What's "blue one blue"?

Anyway, the best case for GAR, in your situation, is money: as one of your fellas is going CIS, he'll want to share the CW core set with someone. You might be that someone!

Also, clones kick *** when they join firepower against a single unit and Obi-Wan is a pain in the *** to be killed. Rex is GODAWESOME and you can use R2-D2 just like Rebels.

Clones will also get more tools, but empire is quite fun currently and the original core sets can be found cheap online frequently.

If your interest lies in the Empire, I say follow your heart and build an Imperial army.

Any mirror matches can be easily explained as a training exercise or as the Empire sending troops to deal with a rogue Moff attempting to consolidate his own power on an Outer Rim planet. Heck, you could be the rogue Moff and that can really open up your ability to paint your troops any way you choose!

As far as I am concerned, the empire is the easiest “blue on blue” to explain in the game. So many rogue moffs off doing things. It’s the story behind elements of “Tie fighter” the PC game.

The republic may be easiest to do, because split a core set with the droid buddy. BUT, you should always go with your heart most over what’s convenient. You’ll end up either not enjoying the game, or you’ll end up buying the one you really want as well as the one you have.

If Empire is what you want to play, play Empire. As others have said it’s easy to justify in the lore, and hopefully you will eventually be expanding your games beyond just your immediate circle; and then there will be lots of mirrors no matter which faction you pick.

As far as playstyle:

Empire is the most forgiving of mistakes and lends itself to defensive/gunline style play.

GAR units are very individually powerful and have a lot of tricks based on token sharing and clumping up, but are weak to pierce (snipers) and presently lack a lot of options beyond the basic corps and Rex/Obi-Wan (obviously this will change)

CIS has cheap and spammable unit’s coupled with strong centerpieces and perfect activation control.

Rebels are the least forgiving of mistakes and have weak corps units, but strong aggressive/mobile units.

Empire. It is logical.

All.

The correct answer is all.

But in seriousness with all the effort put into gaming and the hobby get what you want. Get what you will be excited to paint! And if it's Empire, get Empire. If you get another faction that you're not as excited about you're going to lose motivation when it comes to painting and then eventually playing. These games are out there so you dont have to be slaves to the lore, so dont worry about blue v blue, do what YOU want.

42 minutes ago, flightmaster101 said:

All.

The correct answer is all.

But in seriousness with all the effort put into gaming and the hobby get what you want. Get what you will be excited to paint! And if it's Empire, get Empire. If you get another faction that you're not as excited about you're going to lose motivation when it comes to painting and then eventually playing. These games are out there so you dont have to be slaves to the lore, so dont worry about blue v blue, do what YOU want.

You had me at all

The problem with the republic and separatists is that they are very new so if you are not excited about say, clones and obi, it is hard to really get them out. I can do separatists not because I like separatists, but because I love Dooku.

Thenice thing about the empire is that there have been enough releases that even blue on blue can look very different. Sure, day 1 you will probably both bee stormtroopers, speeder bikes and Vader cause that's what the box comes with, but it is pretty easy to diverge after that. While I am holding out for Verso, who hasn't wanted to just throw down the emperor and send him cackling across the field? Or shower the board with snipers and mortars? Or march you AT-ST and (well probably or) across the field. If he zigs, you can zag and still have a lot to choose from. So I say go empire.

Out of GAR, CIS, and Empire your best bet right now should be Empire. They have a good range of strong units, are new player friendly, and would be easy to buy a full army. The fact that you like the faction makes it even better for you.

GAR plays like a more elite version of Empire, but if you want to slowly build out your army over the next year and most likely field a lot of Jedi this is your army. Right now they are the weakest of the factions, but there is a lot of room for improvement............and power creep.

CIS is my favorite right now and really fun to play, but I do not know if I would recommend it. They sort of need a few more options since their commanders are so freaking expensive. Only really have two list you can run right now..........at least they are fun list. A lot of good things are said about the tank coming out for them tho.

I don't get the blue stuff. However take the faction that have the models you like.

Blue on Blue means when two of the same faction face each other.

In the parlance of the US military, blue indicates friendly (other US) forces, green indicates allied (other country) forces, and red is enemy. Blue on blue would generally mean friendly fire. Green on blue is when an allied military attacks us (or personnel, as in the cases when Afghan National Army soldiers kill/try to kill us). Blue on red is not really a phrase that is is used since that is the natural state of things.

On 12/17/2019 at 11:11 AM, AshesFall said:

I'm starting up legion with a couple of friends. My main opponent plays Rebels, and he has recruited one more player who plays Empire. A third friend might be joining us as the Separatists.

I'm an empire man at heart. But I dont really like blue on blue. Not much interested in rebels.

I've also been looking at The Galactic republic, and the separatists. The GRs main attraction is no blue on blue, but I'm struggling to find much inspiration for them. I could definitely use some help!

Could someone make the case for each of the three for me? What's cool about them? What units can we expect in the future? How do they play? Cool pics of units that inspire?

With any luck this could be a thread with lots of inspiration for each of these factions for anyone in the same situation as me.

I appreciate the help guys

Since the other three factions will be played I'd go with the GAR. This way you'll be able to split 2 core sets with your Separatist friend. Buy 2 more Phase I squads and Rex and you'll have a 800 point army to start with.

Just my two cents on the CW factions....

I love the era. I love the Republic. Right now, I’m not sold that ffg will be giving them sufficient love to ever catch up to the GCW.

That means.... unless your heart is truly with one of them, I’d go for a GCW faction as my “first” faction.

We won’t have anything new for CW for at least 2-4 months. That means you have 4 units to play with (two of which are named heroes).

My heart belongs to the Republic, even though I’ve got solid pieces to build a few army permutations for both GCW because when I bought in they were all there was. I’m most excited for their prospective new heroes though.

51 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

We won’t have anything new for CW for at least 2-4 months. That means you have 4 units to play with (two of which are named heroes).

And one of the remaining two (the BARC) sucks most of the time.

I'm almost exclusively a GAR player these days. Unless you love the Clones, or really want Obi or Rex, start by playing something else. Your options are extremely limited with Clones, and you really have to remember a lot of factors when playing them. Empire is probably easiest, with droids and Rebels next. If we knew what was coming for the faction, that might change, but at the moment it's some extra heavy weapons (that might or might not prove useful) another corps (so it's competing for slots with one of the units we have now), R2 (which I'm skeptical on) and the Saber tank. Not much of a chance to play around with stuff to see what you like.

Just now, Alpha17 said:

And one of the remaining two (the BARC) sucks most of the time.

I'm almost exclusively a GAR player these days. Unless you love the Clones, or really want Obi or Rex, start by playing something else. Your options are extremely limited with Clones, and you really have to remember a lot of factors when playing them. Empire is probably easiest, with droids and Rebels next. If we knew what was coming for the faction, that might change, but at the moment it's some extra heavy weapons (that might or might not prove useful) another corps (so it's competing for slots with one of the units we have now), R2 (which I'm skeptical on) and the Saber tank. Not much of a chance to play around with stuff to see what you like.

Yup, I’m painting my clone army because they’re fun to look at when done. I probably will try and field them anyway.

I probably will pick up R2 but otherwise I’m not that enthused by what’s upcoming... hoping for ARC trooper SF and some other supports.

On 12/17/2019 at 2:11 PM, AshesFall said:

I'm starting up legion with a couple of friends. My main opponent plays Rebels, and he has recruited one more player who plays Empire. A third friend might be joining us as the Separatists.

I'm an empire man at heart. But I dont really like blue on blue. Not much interested in rebels.

I've also been looking at The Galactic republic, and the separatists. The GRs main attraction is no blue on blue, but I'm struggling to find much inspiration for them. I could definitely use some help!

Could someone make the case for each of the three for me? What's cool about them? What units can we expect in the future? How do they play? Cool pics of units that inspire?

With any luck this could be a thread with lots of inspiration for each of these factions for anyone in the same situation as me.

I appreciate the help guys

I would say go for Empire if it's what you're passionate about.

Blue on blue isn't very "thematic" but if all else fails think of them as training exercises.

If you do decide to go with one of the new factions, please understand that it could take upwards of a year for them to balance out . A lot of people bought into Legion when it launched and ended up selling out because they got bored with the lack of unit diversity in the first year. Now that the rebels and imperials are relatively flushed out, they're fun to play, droids and clones have a long way to go.

Droids, to me, play like a horde army. Max corps units with both personnel and heavy upgrade on each means there's 48 points of HP on the board before commanders and support units. I play them like they're seen in the movies. I saturate objective areas with more units than the opponent can kill. (The more competitive lists right now run 2 commanders if the tournament scene is your thing). Honestly, they're my favorite army right now. That said, they're a pain to assemble. (a breeze to paint though).

Clones are really cool and seem really strong out of the box. They seem to be all about teamwork. I haven't played them myself, but I've seen them played often. Token sharing, fire support, and the way Obiwan and Rex synergize with the units makes them a force to be reckoned with. Easy to assemble but white can be tricky to paint.

Oh, and if you're worried about "blue on blue" with playing Empire against another Empire player, it's pretty easy to iron out. It's a training exercise, or it's something more serious. In the EU, the Empire had dozens of warlords vying for control for years. Even in Disney's canon, we see some minor hold outs, and it's not unbelievable they'd fight over resources or power. Imps vs Imps could also be a coup attempt by an Imperial commander. Plenty of "thematic" ways to make it work.

59 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

Just my two cents on the CW factions....

I love the era. I love the Republic. Right now, I’m not sold that ffg will be giving them sufficient love to ever catch up to the GCW.

That means.... unless your heart is truly with one of them, I’d go for a GCW faction as my “first” faction.

We won’t have anything new for CW for at least 2-4 months. That means you have 4 units to play with (two of which are named heroes).

My heart belongs to the Republic, even though I’ve got solid pieces to build a few army permutations for both GCW because when I bought in they were all there was. I’m most excited for their prospective new heroes though.

To add to the "first faction" note: GCW units are plentiful. You can actually tailor your purchases to exactly what you want due to the number of releases. I've purchased from release. When you purchase from release, you are buying enough units to fill out 800 points. As new units get released, some of your older units see less and less play. If you start with Republic as your primary faction, know that eventually you will rarely use the two BARC speeders or that 4th and 5th unit of Clones you purchased early in the game to pad out your force.

That's why I'm still plugging away in games with Rebels or Empire while I slowly build my Clone army - one core set (and an extra BARC expansion because I "needed" the BARC trooper helmets ) and then picking and choosing from new releases as they come out.

On 12/18/2019 at 8:05 AM, arnoldrew said:

In the parlance of the US military, blue indicates friendly (other US) forces, green indicates allied (other country) forces, and red is enemy. Blue on blue would generally mean friendly fire. Green on blue is when an allied military attacks us (or personnel, as in the cases when Afghan National Army soldiers kill/try to kill us). Blue on red is not really a phrase that is is used since that is the natural state of things.

Or where the us fighter killed a unit Canadians by bombing them well they where doing night recon.

34 minutes ago, Fistofriles said:

Or where the us fighter killed a unit Canadians by bombing them well they where doing night recon.

That would be blue on green, I guess. It's more commonly just called friendly fire unless it's on purpose, as in the case with insider attacks in AFG.

3 hours ago, FSD said:

To add to the "first faction" note: GCW units are plentiful. You can actually tailor your purchases to exactly what you want due to the number of releases. I've purchased from release. When you purchase from release, you are buying enough units to fill out 800 points. As new units get released, some of your older units see less and less play. If you start with Republic as your primary faction, know that eventually you will rarely use the two BARC speeders or that 4th and 5th unit of Clones you purchased early in the game to pad out your force.

I did double core because 4x phase 1 looks cool and there was the cost/value in play. I agree I’m not maxing out on P1s because other things are coming.

Tank I want to buy but storage is going to be tricksy... and republic is so activation starved as it is.

R2 is a must for me as iconic character plus utility. Oh and a scenario box with him.

P2 clones sound good but that disrupts some immersion with the mix match. Maybe I’ll make up a reason for it like I did for my snow/storm mix.

Really, I’m more excited for additional support, SF, and heroes. Maybe even dare I say it non-clone units that are republic aligned.

Buy two GCW sets. Buy an Imperial and Rebel commander and operative. Paint them even though they don't interest you for practice. Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Buy more imperial stuff as you gain experience playing.