Rift Ambush, Slingshot move questions

By Mad Cat, in Star Wars: Armada Rules Questions

Playing a rift ambush mission and I finish a maneuvre near the Gravity rift and must do another speed one move with no yaw (first player).....

  1. Can I use my extra point of yaw from a navigation command in this "rift move"?
  2. Can I use a double yaw with Jerjerrod on the rift move or gain a yaw from Take Evasive Action or nav team?
  3. If I'm Demolisher can I shoot after the rift move. The FAQ changes a while ago banned this for Engine tech move but, while similar, a rift move isn't the same as ET.
  4. Can I use FCTs to move squadrons nearby after a rift move.
  5. Can I do a squadron command after the rift move if I have Flight Commander.
  6. The rift move happens only once per activation. If a ship uses ETs near the rift does it have to do the rift move after the normal move or can it occur after the ET move. Does the owning player get to choose and what if the ET move brings the ship just inside distance 2 of the rift, or takes the ship just outside of distance 2. As the rift move and ET move have different yaw allowances the order they occur may be very important in some situations.
  7. Can a rift move be cancelled by an enemy G-8 projector?
Edited by Mad Cat
5 hours ago, Mad Cat said:

Playing a rift ambush mission and I finish a maneuvre near the Gravity rift and must do another speed one move with no yaw (first player).....

  1. Can I use my extra point of yaw from a navigation command in this "rift move"?
  2. Can I use a double yaw with Jerjerrod on the rift move or gain a yaw from Take Evasive Action or nav team?
  3. If I'm Demolisher can I shoot after the rift move. The FAQ changes a while ago banned this for Engine tech move but, while similar, a rift move isn't the same as ET.
  4. Can I use FCTs to move squadrons nearby after a rift move.
  5. Can I do a squadron command after the rift move if I have Flight Commander.
  6. The rift move happens only once per activation. If a ship uses ETs near the rift does it have to do the rift move after the normal move or can it occur after the ET move. Does the owning player get to choose and what if the ET move brings the ship just inside distance 2 of the rift, or takes the ship just outside of distance 2. As the rift move and ET move have different yaw allowances the order they occur may be very important in some situations.
  7. Can a rift move be cancelled by an enemy G-8 projector?

1) Most likely.

2) jerry, no - unless you’re second player. Because it states yaw of ‘-‘, whereas jerry would be your yaw value.

3) No, demo can only shoot after FIRST move, not a second.

4) sure

5) it is after you execute a maneuver so yes. Just as you can after an ET mive

6) it is once per activation after a maneuver, so yes, choose order. Important on wether the rift will slow your ET move.

7) yes. It only states the rift cannot reduce that speed - it makes no mention of other effects.

4 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

2) jerry, no - unless you’re second player. Because it states yaw of ‘-‘, whereas jerry would be your yaw value.

Not sure about this.

I understand the point. However Jerry doesn't change your yaw value, rather than the yaw value of your current speed.

I mean, what's the yaw value of your current speed? "-"? Or the one printed on your card?

1 hour ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Not sure about this.

I understand the point. However Jerry doesn't change your yaw value, rather than the yaw value of your current speed.

I mean, what's the yaw value of your current speed? "-"? Or the one printed on your card?

I was not getting into the whole "JJ, changing speed, ET and the Interdictor" Rules question that we've had going for a while.


I mean, as I think more about it, I feel that the answer to 1) and 2), if you are first player , should be NO

Because, first player, it makes no difference what your Yaw value is (So Let's assume you're at Speed 1 Current Speed).

Because even though Jerry may have, at your current speed of 1, turned your yaw value to II, if you're first player, you're definitely still going straight ahead, as you're using a Yaw value of '-' regardless if its '-', 'I' or 'II'...

17 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

I was not getting into the whole "JJ, changing speed, ET and the Interdictor" Rules question that we've had going for a while.


I mean, as I think more about it, I feel that the answer to 1) and 2), if you are first player , should be NO

Because, first player, it makes no difference what your Yaw value is (So Let's assume you're at Speed 1 Current Speed).

Because even though Jerry may have, at your current speed of 1, turned your yaw value to II, if you're first player, you're definitely still going straight ahead, as you're using a Yaw value of '-' regardless if its '-', 'I' or 'II'...

But nav increase the yaw value for this maneuver, which maneuver? Whatever your doing during the current Determine Course Step.

This is also different from JJ.

Also, Quantum Storm would be the same case, isn't it? As the rift maneuver interacts with nav commands, QS does.

Harrow gives either player the 2 yaw even if the player is going speed 2 for his normal maneuver right?

Edited by antisocialmunky

Special Rule: Once per activation, after a ship executes a maneuver, if it is at distance 1-2 of the gravity rift, it must execute a speed-1 maneuver with a yaw of '-'. If that ship belongs to the second player, it may use its speed-1 yaw value. The gravity rift does not have the ability to temporarily reduce that ship's speed during this maneuver.

Important bit bolded and Italicized.

The first player "must" execute a speed 1 maneuver with a yaw of '-'.
There is no getting around that. 2nd player can still add yaw as per usual.