3 hours ago, NakedDex said:

It's wrong because it actually looks good?

Yes.

Looks good, sleek, super modern and functional. Not Star Wars.

What an odd take. But hey, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I could argue A-wings and Naboo fighters look modern and sleek too, but it's all a taste thing.

8 hours ago, Odanan said:

Yes.

Looks good, sleek, super modern and functional. Not Star Wars.

Do you think an old, worn Pegasus would work?

21 hours ago, Odanan said:

Yes, yes, yes.

And that's why I'm wrong.

blep

14 hours ago, Odanan said:

Yes.

Looks good, sleek, super modern and functional. Not Star Wars.

What the **** is an A-Wing? What's an N1? ARC-170s, obviously terrible.

lmao oddy i can't even acknowledge this seriously. Haha.

14 hours ago, GuacCousteau said:

Honestly, this looks straight out of Star Citizen to me.

It's a really cool design, but this is what happens when you get people who actually know what they're doing designing ships. It's too... functional. (Given that ships in SC are meant to draw heavy inspiration from modern performance cars for the varieties in aesthetic, that probably says their design team are doing a really good job, if their efforts look so much like an actual car company's take on a spaceship)

I actually agree. Flip the engines, put the cockpit where the R2 is currently, facing the other way, and sharpen up the wing tips and you'd have a ship that fits the Star Wars aesthetic a little better.

Yes it would make absolutely no sense for the wings to sweep forward, but that's Star Wars. Call it a W-Wing and the job's a good 'un.

Not to be overly barbed here, but let me inform you. Forward Swept wings are really cool s**t. Also fun fact, the X-Wing's are also forward swept. Ish.

But no, seriously. FSW craft can fly, and fly amazingly well. They can reach supersonic like anything else, and they're also hilariously unstable. That instability is part of why these things are so agile at subsonic speeds. Believe you me, subsonic agility DOES still have value. Ain't all about supersonic combat. Throw FSW + Post Stall Maneuvers and HOO boy that's something else!

The more maneuverable an aircraft is, the more unstable the wing needs to be. Aerodynamics has an inverse relationship between flight stability and fast, efficient turns. As a result, you need more raw power to create the same lift too.

Theres a reason you don't see forward swept wings anymore, though. Same with my beloved swing wing designs that featured on the F14.

That said, it's not like Star Wars has any of these problems to contend with. Wings move and sweep for no apparent reason than to look dynamic on screen.

In Star Wars Space is the Air and Sea and the planets are just Islands with one single habitat.

It is known.

6 hours ago, NakedDex said:

What an odd take. But hey, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I could argue A-wings and Naboo fighters look modern and sleek too, but it's all a taste thing.

As someone who grew with the OT, yep, the Naboo and many other PT ships don't look Star Wars either.

2 hours ago, NakedDex said:

The more maneuverable an aircraft is, the more unstable the wing needs to be. Aerodynamics has an inverse relationship between flight stability and fast, efficient turns. As a result, you need more raw power to create the same lift too.

Theres a reason you don't see forward swept wings anymore, though. Same with my beloved swing wing designs that featured on the F14.

That said, it's not like Star Wars has any of these problems to contend with. Wings move and sweep for no apparent reason than to look dynamic on screen.

Basically! Also ditto on the F-14.

1 hour ago, Talonbane Cobra said:

In Star Wars Space is the Air and Sea and the planets are just Islands with one single habitat.

It is known.

Aye.

1 hour ago, Odanan said:

As someone who grew with the OT, yep, the Naboo and many other PT ships don't look Star Wars either.

2 hours ago, Odanan said:

As someone who grew with the OT, yep, the Naboo and many other PT ships don't look Star Wars either.

I mean, I grew up with the OT too. I never considered N1s to be anything but Star Wars. Where else would have such a bananas design. If anything, the N1s made more sense than much of the OT stuff from a design point.

Besides, if your point is that ships that look sleek and modern aren't Star Wars style, I still contend the OT has plenty of those too. The A-wing is right up there.

This Tri-wing looks cool and all, but where’s my flying brick!?

In all seriousness it’s not a bad looking ship even though I don’t think it fits very well in SW but it’s gonna be in TROS and it’s canon so my opinion is irrelevant. I can accept this a little better than some other ships(sorry Arc-170) and I’m glad it has exists for those fans who prefer their SW ships to took like it can actually fly;)

7 hours ago, NakedDex said:

I mean, I grew up with the OT too. I never considered N1s to be anything but Star Wars. Where else would have such a bananas design. If anything, the N1s made more sense than much of the OT stuff from a design point.

Besides, if your point is that ships that look sleek and modern aren't Star Wars style, I still contend the OT has plenty of those too. The A-wing is right up there.

Only the A-Wing.

Everything else is angular (not aerodynamic at all), utilitarian, with the internals exposed.

For me, this is Star Wars:

Not this:

Anyway, to each their own.

On ‎12‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 6:36 PM, theBitterFig said:

Anyhow, Rebel/Resistance ship with Adaptive Ailerons? Don't worry about R4 making Aileron moves blue: you don't get Aileron moves while stressed.

No, but it would trigger "when you execute a blue manoeuvre" if you have such a trigger.

So don't make Rebel Lando a potential pilot, for example, unless you fancy the ship generating two free actions a round whilst doing a 135' turn if equipped with an R4 astromech.

I quite like the design, to be honest. Partly it'd depend what era it's meant to be; Resistance/First Order ships look functional without being old and busted, civil war era tend to look a bit grimy, and clone wars era tend to be comparatively smooth and shiny. I think it fits aesthetically fine into the Resistance/cold war era look.

On 12/15/2019 at 5:15 PM, Wayne Argabright said:

Want to see the Lamborghini version..lol and the Chevrolet and Ford ones as well.lol

Ford version is the Tie Fighter

3 minutes ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Oh man, I thought the original design had echoes of Wing Commander's Rapier, but that redesign dove further into that route.

Or someone had a hard on for the Howlrunner.

Anyways disagree with that video.

So EC Henry cut the Porsche callouts and made it a pure military fighter instead of the design ideology blend of the original... Why the heck am I getting Colonial Viper vibes from his altered design???

57 minutes ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Don’t quite agree with all his points, but I do like the alternate take on the craft.

On 12/16/2019 at 5:58 PM, Odanan said:

As someone who grew with the OT, yep, the Naboo and many other PT ships don't look Star Wars either.

100% Agree. But I just put it down to that planet's particular style. Most non-naboo craft fit better into the Star Wars aesthetic.

8 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Dang I was just about to post this too! EC Henry's design fits way better in SW. Totally agree with him here.

I think the Henry is the better version by far. I found the video earlier and came to share it myself. The Disney version looks more Nubian, Henry's looks more Incom. Only thing is the Droid should go back in. That is a Incom signature practically.

I commented on the video that an interesting take would have been to put the socket directly into the cabin. Yes, it defeats some of the purpose, but if it's just there for nav then it gets you back to a four seater car. Alternatively, drop the back seat, go for a coup, keep the socket outside with it off set to the cockpit.

Now listen, I like the Incom design, and the Nubian design. I like prequel ships and OT ships pretty equally. Because I like how the ships can tell you about the setting without an anime like explanation dude rambling on. OT ships are rugged, functional, and dirty. Hard times, no money for sophisticated tech, it's war. Prequel designs are sleek, refined, clean. Built in peace time, Elegance, big economy and tech markets. As Old Ben said, more elegant weapons for a more civilized age.

To say prequel ships are not "starwarsy"is to say that lightsabers and Imperial ship interiors aren't either.

So to me, the Disney version is just fine... As a Nubian heavy strike bomber from the prequels, or from the same family as the yacht they stole in 8(barf 8 hurl).

But the Henry version is more an Incom K-wing heavy variant. Or even a mod. Or perhaps a canonized one.

Henry would have won my vote in a blind test I wager, especially with the engine nacelles being the same as Rey's bike in 7 almost.

Also, Bespin Could car. It's the same aesthetic and lines as the other prequel ships. If they flew next to an N-1 or a royal yacht, I'd assume they were from the same culture.

5 hours ago, ForceSensitive said:

I think the Henry is the better version by far. I found the video earlier and came to share it myself. The Disney version looks more Nubian, Henry's looks more Incom. Only thing is the Droid should go back in. That is a Incom signature practically.

What are you talking about? The U-Wing and Z-95 exist.

45 minutes ago, KCDodger said:

What are you talking about? The U-Wing and Z-95 exist.

The Z is almost too small to fit the slot, though debatable. That 'dome' behind the cockpit makes it look like they had a Droid equivalent included almost as a fully built in component. Maybe it was a optional feature?

And the U had enough room onboard for a dedicated navi-computer as well as having a pretty busy internal transport compartment. I suppose the droid could have been behind the compartment? Even then that's cramped.

But X and Y being on the design brief, along with hero ship, the slot makes a lot of sense to add. Or at least SOME FORM of slot for a Droid type.

3 hours ago, ForceSensitive said:

The Z is almost too small to fit the slot, though debatable. That 'dome' behind the cockpit makes it look like they had a Droid equivalent included almost as a fully built in component. Maybe it was a optional feature?

And the U had enough room onboard for a dedicated navi-computer as well as having a pretty busy internal transport compartment. I suppose the droid could have been behind the compartment? Even then that's cramped.

But X and Y being on the design brief, along with hero ship, the slot makes a lot of sense to add. Or at least SOME FORM of slot for a Droid type.

Reminder that the Y-Wing is Koensayr.

True, but still it was part of the brief. And two of the three ships had Astro. I'd grade the final on whether it did or not. Mind you it does have three seats, so it could feasibly have a flight engineer position.

But still, what self respecting pilot/hero goes around the Star Wars beers verse without their trusty Droid 😄