The paint itself isn't an issue. It's the long announcement drought we have been in that has made people frustrated. Imagine if you are a CIS player: your faction is brand-new with very few options, you haven't gotten an announcement since August (4 months ago), it is very much looking like you won't get one this month, and the upcoming models have likely all been delayed. People generally need new things to be excited about to keep them interested.

I wouldn't hate the paints if they hadn't made a big deal about "three articles, with five new products!" to the big names on Facebook and Discord. It's nice that FFG is trying to interact with the community and build hype, but you don't build then hype then reveal that two of the five are paints that are honestly already available under a different name. Even if paints had to be included in the five, you announce them last, not first. This seriously kills the hype.

As a Clone Player, it's quite annoying to see this taking up two of the five slots as well. If Iden/Cassian are two of the remaining three slots, that means there's a good chance that I'll get nothing out of this "big week of articles!" after all. Probably sounds selfish, and maybe it is, but it's hard not to be bummed. I didn't mind GCW players getting new units when I was too, but this is irritating. CIS players have even more ground to get upset. At least the GAR has the option of getting R2, even if I personally have no interest.

16 hours ago, RyantheFett said:

At least this time it is out before the rest of the army? I would now bet money this will be delayed.

At best I wonder if they are hinting towards Gungans and Umbaran units as the partisan units???

Maybe, but that Umbaran shade really looks like the B2 droid paint to me. I really would like to see both Gungans and Umbarans though. The umbaran heavy would be bonkers.

13 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Geez people.. just try to be happy with what you've got..

some people probably have to play with the Turkish Star Wars Lesion..

I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t voluntarily do anything involving lesions...

37 minutes ago, Lukez said:

I think people are only upset due to the hype up on facebook from FFG marketing.

^^^^ This.

If we had not received any news, this would be received more typical (some like it, some dislike it, nobody is over the top about it). The hype before hand made this feel like a let down, not the mere fact of its existence.

I am struggling a bit with Legion right now - I was super hyped for clone wars but the delivery has been lacking. A lot. I guess that’s what I get for thinking CW would get the same love GCW did its first year.

I’ll still play on occasion with friends, but I’m not rushing out to the organized play scene any time soon. I’m sure we will eventually have some cool Republic options. I’ll just pick up stuff gradually. I’m pretty close to “set” with my GCW armies (missing a bunch of new releases but also don’t care that much). I might go back and pick up the new heavies at some point. Maybe I can talk myself into tauntauns for the Rebels. But I don’t feel a pressing need to “all the things”. Except for Republic heroes.

But the hype was not made by FFG, but by what Legion players liked to read into the simple announcement of three articles and five products. Not a product type in particular was promised, nor implied.

People complain if they don't know when articles are coming up, people complain if the article is not for the product they wished for and these wishes vary wildly from player to player. There will always be people that complain about something. At least FFG is making efforts in improving communication, but I guess it's hard to find a way of not riling some people up one way or the other.

Wondering if it would be a better tactic for FFG to only announce products when they already arrived in warehouses worldwide, but then people would complain that there were no previews and that they spend all their money on hot product X last month...

6 minutes ago, Decarior said:

Wondering if it would be a better tactic for FFG to only announce products when they already arrived in warehouses worldwide, but then people would complain that there were no previews and that they spend all their money on hot product X last month...

Honestly, I’d rather have this happen. I like GW’s tactic in that respect, even if I don’t like other stuff. For the GW game I’ve played, it was never more than a month or so between announcement and release. Two weeks in they’d do a preview article, and another week or two you’d have the product for sale.

38 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

14 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t voluntarily do anything involving lesions

That is partly my point, lesion was not a spelling mistake. I'm annoyed by the mindset of always wanting something new.. play with the stuff you have. Yes, the two newest factions are light on units, but they are playable, maybe just have fun with what you have?

A drought in new Unit announcements might mean they are trying to shorten the time between announcements and product on shelves. I actually hope this is the case. I like to know what is coming but when we know 4 months ahead of time, it is just so much waiting it almost kills the hype for me.

15 minutes ago, Draycos said:

A drought in new Unit announcements might mean they are trying to shorten the time between announcements and product on shelves. I actually hope this is the case. I like to know what is coming but when we know 4 months ahead of time, it is just so much waiting it almost kills the hype for me.

I would definitely prefer shorter windows between preview and release. This time of year is always frustrating because they announce tons of stuff at GenCon, which means fewer previews in the following months.

1 hour ago, Decarior said:

Wondering if it would be a better tactic for FFG to only announce products when they already arrived in warehouses worldwide, but then people would complain that there were no previews and that they spend all their money on hot product X last month...

I am now in the camp that they probably should just wait and announce products at the last second now. They will have to change everything they do with articles, but in the long run it will be better for everyone.

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I'm annoyed by the mindset of always wanting something new.. play with the stuff you have. Yes, the two newest factions are light on units, but they are playable, maybe just have fun with what you have?

I agree with most of this it just feels more like I was... Misled? Strung around maybe? by their marketing. And maybe a lot of it can be blamed on the fan overreacting to the announcement????? IDK

Also if this was announced with no fanfare and build up I would have been fine with paint. **** if the paint would of come out with the core set I would have bought it!

I should go reread their message to Facebook/discord to see the exact wording because I thought it was more along the lines of "we are sorry about the delays here is some super early sneak peeks to have something in December!"

Really I am guessing it was closer to "we are sorry everything is pushed back, but while you wait look at other stuff you can pre-order now!"......... I know it may be petty, but I did not think I would have to carefully read FFG messages to the community....

Feels like what happened with Dooku/Rex since they got the product early, but somewhat billed it as a apology for Clone Wars delay?

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

That is partly my point, lesion was not a spelling mistake. I'm annoyed by the mindset of always wanting something new.. play with the stuff you have. Yes, the two newest factions are light on units, but they are playable, maybe just have fun with what you have?

They are if you max out on the same unit type. However, not all of us would want to do that knowing full well eventually other things are coming and we will ultimately have excess plastic sitting on the shelf. It’s already had enough in my case the last thing I want is more just sitting there once new things are out.

Hopefully the announce to release time will be much quicker on this paint set than the last. I am still of the opinion these would have been best released alongside the starter set, which was also my opinion on the first batch of paint sets.

At this point I'm expecting the other three announcements to be terrain or game mats and have nothing to do with the Iden/Cassian leak. If we're lucky, one of the remaining releases will come with new generic Battle Cards as opposed to thematic ones for use with a specific mini campaign. Don't get me wrong, I like that those exist, but I feel that the competitive/pick up game communities could also use some new Battle Cards.

The maximum time for hype is when the product is first announced, people get excited and are likely to impulse buy. The longer the wait, the more time people have to rethink their decision, or want to pull that money to put into a different product, causing cancelled pre-orders. While I'm not a huge fan of this lull because I want to get to play with new Republic units, at least it is giving my wallet a break.

EDIT: For the record, I wrote this before checking the news page, so....

4 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

I wouldn't hate the paints if they hadn't made a big deal about "three articles, with five new products!" to the big names on Facebook and Discord. It's nice that FFG is trying to interact with the community and build hype, but you don't build then hype then reveal that two of the five are paints that are honestly already available under a different name. Even if paints had to be included in the five, you announce them last, not first. This seriously kills the hype.

As a Clone Player, it's quite annoying to see this taking up two of the five slots as well. If Iden/Cassian are two of the remaining three slots, that means there's a good chance that I'll get nothing out of this "big week of articles!" after all. Probably sounds selfish, and maybe it is, but it's hard not to be bummed. I didn't mind GCW players getting new units when I was too, but this is irritating. CIS players have even more ground to get upset. At least the GAR has the option of getting R2, even if I personally have no interest.

Looks like the duel faction unit was released today. This probably means we will see the new GAR/Separtist units later this week.

1 hour ago, R3dReVenge said:

Looks like the duel faction unit was released today. This probably means we will see the new GAR/Separtist units later this week.

There is no guarantee that the last announcement will be GAR/Separatists. They could just as easily be GCW, new game mats, new premium bases, or some other accessory that is not a unit.

5 minutes ago, R3dReVenge said:

Looks like the duel faction unit was released today. This probably means we will see the new GAR/Separtist units later this week.

Prediction most likely: next article is Cassian and Iden.

Tin Foil Hat Time: what if instead of just those two we find out that all four factions are getting a commander with counterpart? Not sure who they’d all be, but plausible as ffg said they’d be moving waves of content to “thematic” waves (as in game mechanics not as in a specific show or film).

I feel like being an Armada player has really tempered my expectations from FFG. It makes the other games that aren't perpetually neglected really exciting.

How cool is it that Legion gets so much new stuff so often?!

I'm actually kinda glad for the paint sets. TBH I haven't really put much effort into painting the factions apart from Empire and CIS. And though my efforts have paid off when painting new units...

It's not perfect, but it was my second mini I painted, still very happy with it:


If you see an old man in a bathrobe being chased by a bunch of guys in red pajamas on a battlefield, don't assume they don't belong there:


still wet:



Pre wash:


Based and redsandpilled?


These are just a few where I had to guess a little.

28 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

There is no guarantee that the last announcement will be GAR/Seperatits. They could just as easily be GCW, new game mats, new premium bases, or some other accessory that is not a unit.

Talk about a huge FFG Marketing fail then.

But I'd bet on us seeing clone commandos and commando droids.

1 minute ago, R3dReVenge said:

Talk about a huge FFG Marketing fail then.

But I'd bet on us seeing clone commandos and commando droids.

I honestly think @ScummyRebel 's theory might be closer for the next announced CW units similar to the unit upgrades for all four factions. I could see CIS getting Cad Bane and Todo 360 Operative Counterparts, and Republic I guess they could do Padme and Jar Jar? I suppose Anakin and Ahsoka could also work, with options to take them as separate units as well. But that kind of announcement might be delayed until the official announcement of Iden and Cassian.

I suppose we'll likely find out tomorrow.

16 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

I honestly think @ScummyRebel 's theory might be closer for the next announced CW units similar to the unit upgrades for all four factions. I could see CIS getting Cad Bane and Todo 360 Operative Counterparts, and Republic I guess they could do Padme and Jar Jar? I suppose Anakin and Ahsoka could also work, with options to take them as separate units as well. But that kind of announcement might be delayed until the official announcement of Iden and Cassian.

I suppose we'll likely find out tomorrow.

I kind of want Padme and Jar Jar over Anakin and Ahsoka in terms of that context. I’d rather have Anakin commander and Ahsoka operative with teamwork Anakin, but the counter part mechanic might work. I just think they make more sense as Han and Chewie vs strict counter parts like the droids or the other examples.

Just now, ScummyRebel said:

I kind of want Padme and Jar Jar over Anakin and Ahsoka in terms of that context. I’d rather have Anakin commander and Ahsoka operative with teamwork Anakin, but the counter part mechanic might work. I just think they make more sense as Han and Chewie vs strict counter parts like the droids or the other examples.

Fair enough, it was just an idea that popped into my head as I was typing. I agree Teamwork makes a bit more sense, but I could see counterpart being used for padawans. It will be interesting to see what FFG comes up with.

6 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

I wouldn't hate the paints if they hadn't made a big deal about "three articles, with five new products!" to the big names on Facebook and Discord. It's nice that FFG is trying to interact with the community and build hype, but you don't build then hype then reveal that two of the five are paints that are honestly already available under a different name. Even if paints had to be included in the five, you announce them last, not first. This seriously kills the hype.

As a Clone Player, it's quite annoying to see this taking up two of the five slots as well. If Iden/Cassian are two of the remaining three slots, that means there's a good chance that I'll get nothing out of this "big week of articles!" after all. Probably sounds selfish, and maybe it is, but it's hard not to be bummed. I didn't mind GCW players getting new units when I was too, but this is irritating. CIS players have even more ground to get upset. At least the GAR has the option of getting R2, even if I personally have no interest.

yeah in January

51 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

I honestly think @ScummyRebel 's theory might be closer for the next announced CW units similar to the unit upgrades for all four factions. I could see CIS getting Cad Bane and Todo 360 Operative Counterparts, and Republic I guess they could do Padme and Jar Jar? I suppose Anakin and Ahsoka could also work, with options to take them as separate units as well. But that kind of announcement might be delayed until the official announcement of Iden and Cassian.

I suppose we'll likely find out tomorrow.

there are only 5 new products... is counting that hard? we've had 3 of the 5. the next two are either iden/Cassian (most likely) or cw sf.

1 minute ago, Tirion said:

there are only 5 new products... is counting that hard? we've had 3 of the 5. the next two are either iden/Cassian (most likely) or cw sf.

Counting has nothing to do with it. I'm not saying that tomorrow's announcement will have 4 units, just that we may not hear about ANY CW units until they are announced alongside Cassian and Iden at a future time (like January). If we hear about either Cassian and Iden or CW SF, then obviously I'm wrong.

On the other hand, if tomorrow's announcement is two game mats, or two sizes of premium bases, then there is still a chance I'm correct.

At no point did FFG say any of the 5 announced products would be units. It's possible that NONE of the products are units in this batch.

Heck, at first they didn't even say how many products, they just said there would be three announcement articles - and when asked to clarify provided 5 products. I honestly think they didn't want to overhype, just say there was still legion news this month and it wasn't a dead month even if the releases were pushed.

11 hours ago, UnitOmega said:

Heck, at first they didn't even say how many products, they just said there would be three announcement articles - and when asked to clarify provided 5 products. I honestly think they didn't want to overhype, just say there was still legion news this month and it wasn't a dead month even if the releases were pushed.

Typical community (and not just legion /wargamers)

Company "annoucement incoming"

Consumer base "I DEMAND DETAILS!!"

Company"ok, gives a little more and an estimated date"

Consumer base at least 1 week before date "WTFBBQ, where's is my announcement!!?!"

Company (if they dare) "cool your jets, we said......"

Consumer base " your communication sux"

Company, on date "here ya go"

Consumer base " WTF? That's it? You overhyped it!!!"....forums burn.....

Clone wars players should feel annoyed. We have stuff all to play with. BUT THE BIG THING. The big ******* problem that ffg have been doing is STILL releasing civil war **** while the new factions sit at bare bones.

I want this game to kick off properly in my area. This isn't going to happen with 2 factions plus 2 bare bones factions. Players want good variety. The market is competitive, and this lag in production by ffg will hurt the short and long term health of the game.

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To be fair to the OP, these paints don't look very good.