Endor FFG Table
Man, I hated that table!! The slope is too steep and it was a pain trying to get figures to stand without taking a nose-dive down to the bottom.
23 hours ago, Jack Legion said:I learned about legion through the gencon demo game featuring the endor table that FFG made. Would anyone know how to create this bunker in the hill type table?
There are a few ways to go about it, depending on what you want in the end. Personally, I'd use foam to create the height of the hill with your bunker built in or embedded in it. If you want part of the hilltop removable to allow access to the bunker's interior, that's manageable but more difficult.
As @FSD mentioned, the slope of the hill can cause problems with minis even though it looks nice on the tabletop. A cliff face or rocky outcropping would be both a little easier to construct and allow easier interactions with actual minis.
On 12/9/2019 at 4:38 AM, Jack Legion said:
The Terrain Studio on youtube has an extensive tutorial. Their hill is removable to show bunker interior
Building up with foam cut with either a sharp knife or a hot wire cutter (the latter outside or underneath a ventilation fan!) is a light and fairly cost-effective method of making the bulk of the hill. You can see in the photo how the board is edged with wood to protect the foam (something light like craft balsa wood is enough). Then use filler (spackle) to smooth out the cut edge and give it a more natural shape.
You can just embed your structure in the hill, or have some of the hill cut separate to lift off so that you can reach inside (as Snuffy said, this'll be much more complex).
For the shape of the hill, a slope at a 1:3 ratio (1 unit of height for every 3 units of width) is appropriate for most miniatures to stand on for playability. If you're only doing a table-edge slope that isn't very space-consuming (6–9" for a hill large enough to build a door into), but a hill in the center of the table needs a much larger footprint. Rock faces take up less horizontal space, but using them too much will make all of your hills into plateaus. It's best to use both techniques in combination.
On 12/9/2019 at 3:28 PM, FSD said:Man, I hated that table!! The slope is too steep and it was a pain trying to get figures to stand without taking a nose-dive down to the bottom.
That’s true, I never thought about that, but as far as aesthetics this table was beautiful. I want to make it movie accurate to Endor so it caught my eye. Maybe if I decreased the steepness of the hill it would be more playable.
20 hours ago, SFC Snuffy said:There are a few ways to go about it, depending on what you want in the end. Personally, I'd use foam to create the height of the hill with your bunker built in or embedded in it. If you want part of the hilltop removable to allow access to the bunker's interior, that's manageable but more difficult.
As @FSD mentioned, the slope of the hill can cause problems with minis even though it looks nice on the tabletop. A cliff face or rocky outcropping would be both a little easier to construct and allow easier interactions with actual minis.
15 hours ago, Alan Noir said:The Terrain Studio on youtube has an extensive tutorial. Their hill is removable to show bunker interior
Thank you! I am trying to decide if it is worth it or not to make this table. On one hand it looks amazing but on the other it would be hard to store, might flake off material, etc. Either way thank you for the advice.
3 hours ago, Joker Two said:Building up with foam cut with either a sharp knife or a hot wire cutter (the latter outside or underneath a ventilation fan!) is a light and fairly cost-effective method of making the bulk of the hill. You can see in the photo how the board is edged with wood to protect the foam (something light like craft balsa wood is enough). Then use filler (spackle) to smooth out the cut edge and give it a more natural shape.
You can just embed your structure in the hill, or have some of the hill cut separate to lift off so that you can reach inside (as Snuffy said, this'll be much more complex).
For the shape of the hill, a slope at a 1:3 ratio (1 unit of height for every 3 units of width) is appropriate for most miniatures to stand on for playability. If you're only doing a table-edge slope that isn't very space-consuming (6–9" for a hill large enough to build a door into), but a hill in the center of the table needs a much larger footprint. Rock faces take up less horizontal space, but using them too much will make all of your hills into plateaus. It's best to use both techniques in combination.
Thank you for the advice. It seems complicated but if I could get it right, very rewarding.
1 hour ago, Jack Legion said:That’s true, I never thought about that, but as far as aesthetics this table was beautiful. I want to make it movie accurate to Endor so it caught my eye. Maybe if I decreased the steepness of the hill it would be more playable.
Oh, don’t get me wrong. That table is gorgeous.
It was just that every time someone tried to put a figure on that incline I kept picturing The Princess Bride and wanted to shout “As You Wish” when the figure eventually went tumbling down. 😂
7 hours ago, Jack Legion said:
Thank you! I am trying to decide if it is worth it or not to make this table. On one hand it looks amazing but on the other it would be hard to store, might flake off material, etc. Either way thank you for the advice.
Yes that isa problem. You can mist the trees with a watered down pva sprayed on from a bottle which will help.