28 minutes ago, Lord Preyer said:I actually think I will benefit from the post-match analysis here as I would like to learn why I was not believed. This will be of genuine merit to me.
Hey, I still think @FortyInRed is the smarter kill.
@Madaghmire @GhostofNobodyInParticular are you present?
I'm also a little perplexed why people don't want to vote Forty. That reveals the most information and is the least risky. If he flips town you know I'm lying and Lord preyer is lying and you know exactly who to vote for. If he flips like I said he's going to flip then we know that Ebon is also compromised. Voting for biggs or Lord preyer is riskier and yields less info.
42 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:Hey, I still think @FortyInRed is the smarter kill.
@Madaghmire @GhostofNobodyInParticular are you present?
Then why the heck did you unvote Forty and shift to me?! *sigh*
2 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:
Oops! Sorry!
Lord preyer (5) ebon forty mad Jabba biggs- hammer
They say knowledge is power, but in Lord Preyer's case , too much knowledge just seemed suspicious.
The mob swiftly dispatched the crazy timetraveller.
Lord preyer has been killed, he was a self aligned time cop.
He fails in his mission to survive, and ensure matt3412 and EbonHawk do not.
Night five begins, and will last 24 hours
@Caldias is found slumped over a dressing table.
Written on the mirror above him,in blood, the word 'LIAR'
Looks like this mischievous elf is down for good this time.
Day 5 begins, and will end at 00.00 gmt Tuesday
@Madaghmire @BiggsIRL @GhostofNobodyInParticular @FortyInRed
@The Jabbawookie Jabbawookie @EbonHawk
6 Alive, 4 to Hammer
Uhm...did Cal have any kind of like...affiliation?
22 hours ago, PodRacer said:Lord preyer has been killed, he was a self aligned time cop.
self-aligned so that explains a lot
22 hours ago, PodRacer said:He fails in his mission to survive, and ensure matt3412 and EbonHawk do not.
win con, stop town doc and town innocent child winning... LOL
I'd wager biggs is the same as marcus with different people as his win con and maybe their addition is signs scum is gone, nips or jabba would be my next option
1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:self-aligned so that explains a lot
win con, stop town doc and town innocent child winning... LOL
I'd wager biggs is the same as marcus with different people as his win con and maybe their addition is signs scum is gone, nips or jabba would be my next option
We could hang him and find out. I dont mind hanging the unaligned, although I’d prefer to find scum.
9 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:We could hang him and find out. I dont mind hanging the unaligned, although I’d prefer to find scum.
jabba forty nips in that order i find odd
Okay so I am still in the game. Cool!
I WAS a Town-Alligned Invisible Man, until I decloaked, but now, like Lord Preyor, I am a survivor with my other two win conditions met:
- Kill Lord Preyor
- Kill Bertie
So... uh... don't kill me.
I do have a single shot redemption like Preyor did, but.. rather keep that for me.
Scum, if there are two of you, go ahead and claim now. I can vote with you as a block and when you get the night kill on someone (else) we win.
##vote @The Jabbawookie
On 1/3/2020 at 9:55 AM, FortyInRed said:I mean just pointing out the obvious haha. I've seen enough super hero movies to know that someone using their power to lull the locals into blind obedience rarely has their best interests at heart.
On 1/4/2020 at 6:41 PM, PodRacer said:Lord preyer (5) ebon forty mad Jabba biggs- hammer
They say knowledge is power, but in Lord Preyer's case , too much knowledge just seemed suspicious.
The mob swiftly dispatched the crazy timetraveller.
Lord preyer has been killed, he was a self aligned time cop.
He fails in his mission to survive, and ensure matt3412 and EbonHawk do not.
Night five begins, and will last 24 hours
I'm just gonna leave this here.
OK. I'm inclined to vote for @The Jabbawookie . I am fairly confident that I know Mad's role, and I have evidence to suggest that Forty has twice been targeted by scum.
So, of the players:
Me, TOWN, duh:
@BiggsIRL - Self-proclaimed 3rd Party
@FortyInRed - TOWN Role-blocker
@EbonHawk - TOWN? Innocent Child
@Madaghmire - TOWN? [REDACTED], and
@The Jabbawookie - Self-proclaimed TOWN with small bladder, with little supporting evidence and the odd one out from above (short of Biggs).
Basically, it's either Jabba or Mad at this point, and I can't see Mad's role as being scum. 3rd party, maybe, but a bit weak as that (assuming, of course, I have it right. . .).
2 hours ago, FortyInRed said:
I'm just gonna leave this here.
It doesn't mean a lot by itself.
Preyer was pushing you hard, but he was an independent party and you weren't even on his list, which means he might have thought he was telling the truth. Especially when Pod says Preyer has "knowledge." Where did he get it?
Also, your biggest critic is now dead. You're not a recruiter or we'd be dead already, but you also aren't cleared. At least not until we hear more.
44 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:OK. I'm inclined to vote for @The Jabbawookie . I am fairly confident that I know Mad's role, and I have evidence to suggest that Forty has twice been targeted by scum.
So, of the players:
Me, TOWN, duh:
@BiggsIRL - Self-proclaimed 3rd Party
@FortyInRed - TOWN Role-blocker
@EbonHawk - TOWN? Innocent Child
@Madaghmire - TOWN? [REDACTED], and
@The Jabbawookie - Self-proclaimed TOWN with small bladder, with little supporting evidence and the odd one out from above (short of Biggs).
Basically, it's either Jabba or Mad at this point, and I can't see Mad's role as being scum. 3rd party, maybe, but a bit weak as that (assuming, of course, I have it right. . .).
Given Biggs' lack of town alignment, we may be at lylo. The time to put your cards on the table is now.
Especially when you're claiming Mads is a poor scum candidate over someone who got pushed by scum and hammered them.
1 hour ago, The Jabbawookie said:It doesn't mean a lot by itself.
Preyer was pushing you hard, but he was an independent party and you weren't even on his list, which means he might have thought he was telling the truth. Especially when Pod says Preyer has "knowledge." Where did he get it?
Also, your biggest critic is now dead. You're not a recruiter or we'd be dead already, but you also aren't cleared. At least not until we hear more.
Given Biggs' lack of town alignment, we may be at lylo. The time to put your cards on the table is now.
Especially when you're claiming Mads is a poor scum candidate over someone who got pushed by scum and hammered them.
Most of this is fine, although deflecting onto me and using as evidence one of my top one favorite scum moves (push against each other, be on the train) to clear yourself sort of perks my ears. It was a little early in the game to bring it to fruition, but not too early to introduce friction. If you guys felt like he was going down anyway then Hammer is the right move, and as Bertie didn’t vote for you until after the train on him had a full head of steam after forty revealed the roleblock on him after a deathless night, I’m inclined to seriously consider this as a possibility.
What gives me pause is your earlier posts about the tiny bladder. That all read super town to me. What did you see last night, or or on nights 3 or 4? I don’t recall you saying anything about those nights, although its possible it just didn’t stick when I read through.
As for Biggs...man I dunno. He was right-ish about LP I guess. Meh.
As for Forty...I’d really like confirmation Caldias was still town aligned upon his second death. He’s clearly not scum but that doesn’t mean he came back town. Everything I’ve seen from forty this game otherwise says town, unless he gave up Bertie (mafia roleblocker) to save himself. The implications of which are somewhat terrifying, given how powerful a tool a roleblock is. But Cal’s words don’t get forgotten, and if @PodRacer would be so kind as to give us the alignment on the body, I’ll know better how I feel about all this.
Ebon is an innocent child. Im not hanging an innocent child.
I’ve been willing to hang nips for a while. Mostly based on process of elimination.
Right now, I really just want confirmation that Caldias was still town at the time of his second death.
15 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Most of this is fine, although deflecting onto me and using as evidence one of my top one favorite scum moves (push against each other, be on the train) to clear yourself sort of perks my ears.
I realize that may have come across as deflection, it was more to emphasize it was a weird train of thought without GNIPs giving us all the facts.
I’ve had enough of people saying “I know something, trust me” for now through the next three games.
So, I'm the Town Gossip. What that means is that I could recruit people into a chat on nights 1 and 2. I tried to recruit Matt N1 as I hoped he'd survive, since I submitted the Bullet-proof Doc role and figured it was possible that was his role. I did not anticipate the bulletproof failing. I recruited Caldias N2. Caldias and I discussed various strategies and N3, after @FortyInRed claimed, we decided to protect him, redirecting from him to Mad. We did the same thing N4, when Cal died. When Cal was resurrected, he told me he had 'visions' ('visions' turn out to be a link to an observer's doc with partial information) of Mad hiding behind somebody, and when Mad indicated that if Cal had redirected onto him, it was understandable that there was no night kill, we surmised he was a hider/coward role.
Given the confusion of yesterday, Cal and I agreed that if Forty were a recruiter, the best target for him was Cal himself, so Cal agreed to busdrive himself and Forty, so that Forty would be sent to himself. The fact that Cal died indicates that the scum attempted to target Forty (for a second time, the previous being when N3). Now, in the chat, Cal never had time to report his chosen action before he died, and there was a slight possibility that he redirected himself and Ebon (the other strategy we discussed), however we left things with Forty being the best bet, and so I assume that is what he did.
If Cal did indeed switch alignment, I can only assume that he didn't busdrive our agreed best bet (Forty), and thus that Forty is scum. However, as I have yet to have any indication that this was so, I am going with my above assumption that Cal twice saved Forty's life, the second time by taking the bullet for him. Thus, with Forty having twice been targeted by scum, Mad being a hider, myself a gossip, Ebon an innocent child, and Biggs a self-confessed 3rd party, the only other lynch target is @The Jabbawookie .
12 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:When Cal was resurrected, he told me he had 'visions' ('visions' turn out to be a link to an observer's doc with partial information) of Mad hiding behind somebody, and when Mad indicated that if Cal had redirected onto him, it was understandable that there was no night kill, we surmised he was a hider/coward role.
For what it’s worth, this is the core of the issue. I made up and submitted the role of hiding strengthener, a night action role where the player they hide behind gains the strong keyword.
If this role were given to scum, the only thing they would need to fear when using it for kills are night kills from other factions double-killing them (or a lucky bus from Caldias, given the setup we seem to have.) It would have been otherwise perfect for taking out a bulletproof doctor.
Your logic is quite solid: Forty looks thoroughly cleared, Ebon is innocent, Biggs is openly hostile, and you’re frankly far too constructive to be scum.
##vote @Madaghmire
I’ll wake up and answer any questions around 10 AM PST.
I recognize this will be essentially my word against that of Mads; should I be chosen to die, the game will not end. In these circumstances:
Forty, if you actually do have another role block, use it on Mads.
Biggs, your win con is met, yes? Would you consider not voting on a hypothetical day 6, out of sportsmanship?
8 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:You're not a recruiter or we'd be dead already
THANK YOU. I'm really glad someone else figured this out. I was going to mention but was hesitant to add any more fuel to the fire.
@The Jabbawookie did you see anything last night?
6 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:So, I'm the Town Gossip. What that means is that I could recruit people into a chat on nights 1 and 2. I tried to recruit Matt N1 as I hoped he'd survive, since I submitted the Bullet-proof Doc role and figured it was possible that was his role. I did not anticipate the bulletproof failing. I recruited Caldias N2. Caldias and I discussed various strategies and N3, after @FortyInRed claimed, we decided to protect him, redirecting from him to Mad. We did the same thing N4, when Cal died. When Cal was resurrected, he told me he had 'visions' ('visions' turn out to be a link to an observer's doc with partial information) of Mad hiding behind somebody, and when Mad indicated that if Cal had redirected onto him, it was understandable that there was no night kill, we surmised he was a hider/coward role.
Given the confusion of yesterday, Cal and I agreed that if Forty were a recruiter, the best target for him was Cal himself, so Cal agreed to busdrive himself and Forty, so that Forty would be sent to himself. The fact that Cal died indicates that the scum attempted to target Forty (for a second time, the previous being when N3). Now, in the chat, Cal never had time to report his chosen action before he died, and there was a slight possibility that he redirected himself and Ebon (the other strategy we discussed), however we left things with Forty being the best bet, and so I assume that is what he did.
If Cal did indeed switch alignment, I can only assume that he didn't busdrive our agreed best bet (Forty), and thus that Forty is scum. However, as I have yet to have any indication that this was so, I am going with my above assumption that Cal twice saved Forty's life, the second time by taking the bullet for him. Thus, with Forty having twice been targeted by scum, Mad being a hider, myself a gossip, Ebon an innocent child, and Biggs a self-confessed 3rd party, the only other lynch target is @The Jabbawookie .
You surmised correctly. I’m a hiding strengthener. I hid behind ovi n1 and you’ll notice pod edited his death to show that he was loved. I tried to hide behind caldias n2 but he didnt die loved so *shrug*, guessing Bertie blocked me. I’ve also hid behind two other live players I believe to be town.
I‘m going to go ahead and
##vote thejabbawookie
I think given Gnips information, its the only reasonable vote. Jabbas reaction strikes me as panicky. While it seems relatively clear he intended to get a vote on me today, I think Gnips sped up his timeline. A good scum strategy I think, given my meta-reputation, I think all of you probably gotta wonder about me any time I’m still breathing late game. So he gets to play off that, creating a binary choice and something of a built in excuse when I flop town, although he must recognize he’d be next.
Also, he ignored me when I asked about what he’s seen.
5 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:I’ll wake up and answer any questions around 10 AM PST.
I recognize this will be essentially my word against that of Mads; should I be chosen to die, the game will not end. In these circumstances:
Forty, if you actually do have another role block, use it on Mads.
Biggs, your win con is met, yes? Would you consider not voting on a hypothetical day 6, out of sportsmanship?
vote jabba @BiggsIRL