so I’ve been building hard plastic models for about 20ish years.
something I appreciate in wargaming articles and previews are actual pictures of the frame layout.
So something I’d like to see is frames of parts for newer hard plastics; for me, it allows me to visualize the variety of ways to build/pose models.
anyone else feel that way?
Not really
One of the attractive things at the start of this game at least, was the simplicity and ease to start the game. The core set models looked great, the cost is low ( which is one reason i quit GW) and if i want a hobby challenge, i can still customize my troops ( which i have) or my terrain.
I don't care if they preview the sprues but you won't see enough detail to get excited
I like to see sprues beforehand.
I don't expect to have a ton of spare bits on the sprues, so I don't know that seeing the sprues beforehand will be all that useful, only about as useful as seeing the parts in the soft plastic kits.
Sprue layouts seem more important for games in which there's a lot of build options on the sprue.
Back in my day, we got black and white pics of all sprues, after they'd been given a black wash to bring out detail. Whether they had multiple options or not. Course we also had to mail away for a catalog to get said pics.
Wait ... let me get this straight ... are you asking this forum for sprue porn?
'Cause, you know, this is a family forum.
4 hours ago, LunarSol said:Sprue layouts seem more important for games in which there's a lot of build options on the sprue.
They're also useful for seeing in advance if the idea for a conversion you have is viable/easy to achieve, or nonviable/a right pain in the bum - knowing which parts are which, where the contact points are etc is just as useful as being able to see alternate parts(if any).
2 hours ago, Hawkstrike said:Wait ... let me get this straight ... are you asking this forum for sprue porn?
'Cause, you know, this is a family forum.
No. They want tasteful artistic sprue nudes. You puritanical naddering nabob of negativism.
14 hours ago, Yodhrin said:They're also useful for seeing in advance if the idea for a conversion you have is viable/easy to achieve, or nonviable/a right pain in the bum - knowing which parts are which, where the contact points are etc is just as useful as being able to see alternate parts(if any).
Honestly, photos of the "soft plastic" parts would be equally useful for those purposes, and we don't get those through official channels. As far as I know, we didn't get photos of the B-1 sprue, the BARC hard plastic pieces, or the Grevious sprue, so unless FFG changes their policies, I wouldn't expect it. As with now, you might be able to find photos/video from people given preview copies that includes a shot of the sprue, but I don't think FFG is currently planning on putting such a photo on the product listing.
Since Legion is designed to be an introductory wargame, posting photos of completed miniatures (look how cool the mini's are!) is probably perceived as preferable by the marketing team to shots of the sprue (look how much work I have to do...).
Edited by Caimheul1313On 12/3/2019 at 12:34 PM, Caimheul1313 said:Honestly, photos of the "soft plastic" parts would be equally useful for those purposes, and we don't get those through official channels. As far as I know, we didn't get photos of the B-1 sprue, the BARC hard plastic pieces, or the Grevious sprue, so unless FFG changes their policies, I wouldn't expect it. As with now, you might be able to find photos/video from people given preview copies that includes a shot of the sprue, but I don't think FFG is currently planning on putting such a photo on the product listing.
Since Legion is designed to be an introductory wargame, posting photos of completed miniatures (look how cool the mini's are!) is probably perceived as preferable by the marketing team to shots of the sprue (look how much work I have to do...).
Well sure they'd be useful, but they're also not easy.
Taking a sprue pic takes moments once you get up the lightbox, trying to arrange a bunch of individual loose parts so people can actually see the details is a nightmare. What would be good is if they put the image from the instructions up on the product page and in the preview articles.
And IMO, they're not going to win many sales from trying to hide the (minuscule) amount of work involved in build models off a sprue. Anyone who's not a total fetus already knows, and a genuine brand new person who bought one might well feel lied to and be put off FFG products generally, even ones that don't require sprues. Better to be up-front and emphasise that sprue kits aren't anywhere near as horrifying as the boardgamer refugees like to pretend they are.
6 hours ago, Yodhrin said:Well sure they'd be useful, but they're also not easy.
Taking a sprue pic takes moments once you get up the lightbox, trying to arrange a bunch of individual loose parts so people can actually see the details is a nightmare. What would be good is if they put the image from the instructions up on the product page and in the preview articles.
And IMO, they're not going to win many sales from trying to hide the (minuscule) amount of work involved in build models off a sprue. Anyone who's not a total fetus already knows, and a genuine brand new person who bought one might well feel lied to and be put off FFG products generally, even ones that don't require sprues. Better to be up-front and emphasise that sprue kits aren't anywhere near as horrifying as the boardgamer refugees like to pretend they are.
Whether it's a photo or the pictorial representation from the parts/build instructions, I still don't think FFG is likely to provide it. Again, they could have provided them for the soft plastics, either in photos after the set up the light boxes to get the pictures of the assembled, unpainted miniatures for the product pages, or in the form of the build diagram and didn't. They also could have provided some sort of image for Grevious, B1s, BARC speeders, or any of the other hard plastic kits, but they haven't yet.
FFG has more to gain by advertising the fully assembled product then they do by advertising the pieces. Which is more likely: someone sees the assembled model and impulse buys before seeing how many parts the miniatures are in, or someone sees the sprue and buys based on the sprue? Given the number of complaints on these forums about the B1 droids, I can't imagine seeing the sprue or assembly instructions beforehand would have helped sales...
On 12/2/2019 at 6:18 PM, TauntaunScout said:No. They want tasteful artistic sprue nudes. You puritanical naddering nabob of negativism.
Nah... here is a hardcore naked sprue.
On 12/2/2019 at 5:03 PM, LunarSol said:Sprue layouts seem more important for games in which there's a lot of build options on the sprue.
Agree. For 40k, having the sprue pic is important. Here, not so much.
17 hours ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:Nah... here is a hardcore naked sprue.
I'll be in my bunk
On 12/2/2019 at 12:04 PM, TauntaunScout said:Back in my day, we got black and white pics of all sprues, after they'd been given a black wash to bring out detail. Whether they had multiple options or not. Course we also had to mail away for a catalog to get said pics.
I read that in grandpa simpson's voice for some reason
3 hours ago, KommanderKeldoth said:I read that in grandpa simpson's voice for some reason
... as was the fashion of the day. It was a yellow onion not a red onion.