During the live stream it was mentioned that there is no current plans to release anymore ships for the Rebels and Imperials in the near future, but that they are looking at additional content for the factions.

Obviously there are the campaign expansions that they can use to release content, but I am interested to see what other ways they could release additional content.

For me, I like the idea of cardboard expansions for specific ships eg: Neb-B - Medical Frigate expansion, which could come with two copies of a new ship card and two ship tokens for the medical frigate. It might be only blue dice and have a different defense suite. It could then come with one new title and upgrade cards that match the new cards from the current wave of clone wars ships. They could also use this method to do cross factions ships i.e. Rebel Quasar etc.

What are your thoughts on new content FFG could release for them to keep the existing factions feeling fresh while the Clone Wars factions are being fleshed out?

IMO both sides would benefit from new ships to refresh the game which is starting to feel a bit tired. At least one more medium base and small base for the rebels and one or two small bases for the Empire. However since that isn't going to happen, I'd like to see:

- A Gozanti ship card without a fleet support upgrade but with 2 dice out the front and side, and possibly without a scatter token.

- A 'battle bridge' ship card allowing large ships to take a second officer.

- More titles for all ships, particularly the AFmk2. All ships should have a minimum of 3 useful titles.

Card packs would definitely be welcome which could include errata cards. Or you could do an expansion/upgrade of the raid mechanism - perhaps faction specific boarding teams?. Much easier to produce I’d imagine.

But the obvious thing to do is make the odd clone wars ship cross-faction. Acclamator or Venator for example.

This would keep single faction players like me interested & you’d probably sell loads more of a single product.

Seems like an easy win-win to me.

I am still hoping for some new ships, I'd love the dreadnought and Imperial Customs Corvette.

I'd also love to see a scenario type expansion that has missions like the x-wing epic pack.

I'd also like the escorted carrier, but it's unlikely since the quasar kind of fills the role.

Oh, some orbial structures would be amazing, like the fighter platforms, Turbo laser platforms or a Golan III

I think I’d like the Chimaera treatment for different ships.

Though with the mouse putting a pin in every single card or errata until rubber stamp it, we won’t see any new Legends updates. So no new GSD or AFmk2 specific content.

Barring Chimaera treatment, a slow trickle of task force / fleet titles that have weak effects would be kind of nice. A Medium/Small ship rebel task force.

I find all of this kind of strange. The reason they gave on the live stream for possibly not creating more GCW ships is that they are running out of commonly depicted ships. But what about the Dornean gunship. It is featured pretty prominently in films and shows. What about the Dreadnought-class. People have been asking for it for a long time and it is featured in Rebels. What about the IGV-55 surveillance vessel or the Arrestor Cruiser. So there are definitely still (at least some) ships left.

But even stranger is that they say they might not create new GCW ships because they are running out of commonly depicted ships yet they are about to release a wave of ships that have never been depicted*. The door has clearly been opened. There are so many ships that are canon but have never been depicted. The Immobilizer 418 cruiser, the Secutor-class Star Destroyer, the Detainer CC-2200, the Carrack-class light cruiser, the CC-7700 frigate, the qaz-class Star Destroyer, the Praetor-class Star Battlecruiser to name just a few.

There are still plenty of GCW ships left to bring to Armada. If FFG doesn't want to bring more GCW ships to the game that is fine but their reasons are entirely wrong. Either they are lying about the reasons or they are uninformed about all the remaining ships. It kind of frustrates me. Whenever they say "we are running out of ships", I just want so scream at them: "No you are not. Here is a list of ships you can still include." I just don't know how to reach them...

*yeah, there has been one image of the Onager in an obscure reference book.

Just now, LordCola said:

There are still plenty of GCW ships left to bring to Armada. If FFG doesn't want to bring more GCW ships to the game that is fine but their reasons are entirely wrong. Either they are lying about the reasons or they are uninformed about all the remaining ships. It kind of frustrates me. Whenever they say "we are running out of ships", I just want so scream at them: "No you are not. Here is a list of ships you can still include." I just don't know how to reach them...

Append "... That LFL/Disney will let us do" and it makes so much more sense .

Because you can't just say that in public where they could hear, after all...

1 minute ago, Drasnighta said:

Append "... That LFL/Disney will let us do" and it makes so much more sense .

Because you can't just say that in public where they could hear, after all...

Yeah, that was on my mind while writing my comment and I can totally see that as a valid point when talking about ships that have not yet been depicted. I am sure there is a long and complicated process to approve a new ship design. But I don't see why Disney would want to prohibit FFG from creating a Dornean Gunship expansion. Of course that could be the case. Maybe someone at Disney hates that ship so they don't want any toys of it. But I just don't see anything that makes the Dornean Gunship, Dreadnought-class or IGV-55 inherently different to the existing armada expansion in a way that Disney would want to prohibit their creation.

2 minutes ago, LordCola said:

Yeah, that was on my mind while writing my comment and I can totally see that as a valid point when talking about ships that have not yet been depicted. I am sure there is a long and complicated process to approve a new ship design. But I don't see why Disney would want to prohibit FFG from creating a Dornean Gunship expansion. Of course that could be the case. Maybe someone at Disney hates that ship so they don't want any toys of it. But I just don't see anything that makes the Dornean Gunship, Dreadnought-class or IGV-55 inherently different to the existing armada expansion in a way that Disney would want to prohibit their creation.

Because its Disney. Disney has a Grand Plan that, essentially until very recently, is focused on looking forward , not back, at Star Wars... I mean, they basically stopped Authors writing in the previous Eras for the longest time and were forcing them to write in the Journey to 7 (Aftermath) Era as it was...

They're Disney , us peasants cannot fathom their mystique.

It's not enough for the ships to exist in canon, they also need to add to the game somehow.

The Onager and Starhawk both give the factions something completely new to play with. The Dornean Gunship would give the Rebels another corvette-style ship, and the Dreadnought something between the VSD and Arquitens. Adding those would be adding ships for the sake of having the ships in the game, not adding ships for the sake of building on the game.

2 minutes ago, Grumbleduke said:

It's not enough for the ships to exist in canon, they also need to add to the game somehow.

Yes and I think that is exactly what there ships would do. With a length of 90 meters the Dornean Gunship is exactly as long as a GR75 so the Dornean Gunship would not be a small ship but a flotilla (technically still a small ship). And combat flotillas is something the fans have asked for for a long time. While we are at flotillas, a little more variety in the flotilla space be amazing and if the Rebels get a new combat flotilla the Empire could get a new type of long range support flotilla in the form of the IGV-55 surveillance vessel, further adding to the faction asymmetry. The Dreadnought-class on the other hand could fill the most needed roll in my opinion. Now I don't know how big the Dreadnought-class is and its length has never been stated in canon but I imagine it to be a small ship. And if this game needs one thing than it would be another imperial small ship. Imperial MSU is basically dead. They really need another small ship. The Empire could also really do with a cheaper way to get fleet commands. So should The Dreadnought-class be a little bit larger, ranging into medium ship space, I could totally see it as a fleet command platform.

You see, there is still plenty of space to add to the game. You just need to have a little imagination. ☺️ 😉

30 minutes ago, LordCola said:

But what about the Dornean gunship. It is featured pretty prominently in films and shows. What about the Dreadnought-class. People have been asking for it for a long time

Prominently? It's not even noticeable without image enhancing. As for dreadnoughts, they're an ugly polygon ruc from the late 90s and would be so slow and undergunned that it would make folks actually praise the Vic.

Personally I want to see more titles and some more upgrades for the Fleet Support slot. Releasing cardboard only packs could make this possible.

It saddens me the Imperials won’t get more to spice up their small ship game. Raiders are alright, but they need to be suicidally close. I have always been of the opinion that Arquitens are overcosted, especially the command version. And the Gladiator only really sees play with Demolisher. (Adding new ways to spice that one up without it being a title will be next to impossible.) I wouldn’t mind them getting the dreadnought, though I think that would be a medium in the 60s range.

26 minutes ago, Formynder4 said:

Prominently? It's not even noticeable without image enhancing.

There are many shots in the battle over Scarif in Rogue One where the Dornean Gunship is very visible.

27 minutes ago, Formynder4 said:

As for dreadnoughts, they're an ugly polygon ruc from the late 90s

I guess that is very subjective. I think they, in particular the angular version from Rebels, look really cool.

29 minutes ago, Formynder4 said:

would be so slow and undergunned that it would make folks actually praise the Vic.

Well that is just some bs statement. Their history of being old ships is not canon anymore. There is literally nothing that points to them being slow or under-armed in canon.

1 hour ago, TallGiraffe said:

Personally I want to see more titles and some more upgrades for the Fleet Support slot. Releasing cardboard only packs could make this possible.

It saddens me the Imperials won’t get more to spice up their small ship game. Raiders are alright, but they need to be suicidally close. I have always been of the opinion that Arquitens are overcosted, especially the command version. And the Gladiator only really sees play with Demolisher. (Adding new ways to spice that one up without it being a title will be next to impossible.) I wouldn’t mind them getting the dreadnought, though I think that would be a medium in the 60s range.

Yes I agree with that. I imagine it with speed 2, and fairly unimpressive stats but lots of upgrade slots so it's very versatile - or possibly several title cards that each add a different upgrade slot.

We Imperials would like a couple of smaller ships for definite.

The rebels had the Corellian Gunship in Star Wars Supremacy game, and it appears in the new film, so that would surely be permissable.

Yea these were my concepts for an Imperial Dreadnought. Adding titles similar to the Star Hawk could be fun in a customizable aspect.

I could be wrong, but I have to assume that Imperial MSU lists are rare as hen’s teeth by design. It’s thematically appropriate (the original trilogy should set the standard for the Empire in my opinion, and in those films, they field nothing but Star Destroyers) and helps keep the current factions somewhat unique. In many miniatures games (as far as I understand, anyway), factions differ more by type, whereas in Armada, the factions mostly differ by degree. FFG is probably hesitant to introduce expansions which muddy those differentiations (I.e., eliminate them) even further.

As for what I want for the existing factions after Wave VIII? Nothing! Stick a fork in it and call it done! Bring on the Republic, Separatists, and God willing, First Order and Resistance. Further more, make each of these new factions truly different and unique! The way I see it, each of the six factions could (and should) have truly unique specialties or personalities:

- Separatists: Swarm/strength-in-numbers

- Republic: Jedi

- Rebellion: Tactics/tricks

- Empire: Generalists/survivability

- Resistance: People/Aces

- First Order: Technology

That’s what I want! 😉

Count me in the group that would like to see a combat flotilla. I would love one more wave, possibly 2 waves for the gcw. Also really need more titles for gladiators and afm2, maybe with a new campaign. Wouldn’t mind seeing new pilots for the rebel and imps fighter pack 2’s.

6 hours ago, Grumbleduke said:

It's not enough for the ships to exist in canon, they also need to add to the game somehow.

The Onager and Starhawk both give the factions something completely new to play with. The Dornean Gunship would give the Rebels another corvette-style ship, and the Dreadnought something between the VSD and Arquitens. Adding those would be adding ships for the sake of having the ships in the game, not adding ships for the sake of building on the game.

That’s a good point.

Id do the Imperial Support Vessel as a double fleet support slot ship. But keep it weak. The benefit naturally being a way to get more support slots on the table but lose an activation/all eggs in one basket etc etc.

Rebels are more tricky short of doing something a bit lame like the wingless liberty.

I'm curious if the Clone Wars version will be compatible with the Armada we currently have. We already have a few of the ships featured in the TV series and the mechanics of the game still work fine. If they are compatible, a new paint job is all one might need to add CW ships in.

Well, might give the game a bit more of a rest if there are no GCW factions in the near future. I have little interest in collecting either faction- Clone Wars isn't my jam.

This is feeling like S&V for X-Wing all over again. If you don't like the new ships/factions... tough. But if you want to stay competitive you need the cards in those packs.

I was also looking forward to the Arrestor vs Dornean gunship... or even better, Resurgent vs MC85 to go along with the conclusion of the trilogy.

In terms of new ship content... We need patches badly for a lot of the starter ships. The Harrow may have buffed the VSD but the class in general needs improvements. I always wanted the VSD to be a staple medium ship useful in any list... I hope with new content for the factions, the VSD can finally be this. The Rebel Assault frigate could get bailed out in the same way.

On 11/27/2019 at 11:00 PM, Solaris00 said:

For me, I like the idea of cardboard expansions for specific ships eg: Neb-B - Medical Frigate expansion, which could come with two copies of a new ship card and two ship tokens for the medical frigate. It might be only blue dice and have a different defense suite. It could then come with one new title and upgrade cards that match the new cards from the current wave of clone wars ships.

I started a thread quite awhile ago on the feasibility of having a Medical Frigate, and it degenerated into catheter insertion. I still wake up screaming even now........