While skimming through various forum posts to brush up on my understanding of Force Power Move and how “Force Push” could be replicated, I came across an underlying assumption from many posts/posters that (to me at least) seemed off.

First, the descriptions from the Force & Destiny Core Rulebook.

• Basic Power: The user may spend FP to move one object of silhouette 0 that is within short range up to their maximum range (my emphasis added). The default maximum range is short range (my emphasis added).
• Range Upgrade: Spend FP to increase the maximum range at which the user can move objects by a number of range bands equal to the number of Range upgrades purchased (my emphasis added).

Because the description seems to differentiate between a starting range and a maximum range, I'm led to believe that whatever target you intend to affect, must start within short range of you, no matter how many Range upgrades you have or how many FP you spend.

However, the assumption I’ve come across seems to be that purchasing Range upgrades increases both the starting default range (short range) as well as the default maximum range (short range).

TL;DR Which is correct? Range upgrades increase just my maximum range. Or, range upgrades increase both the starting range and my maximum range.

The devs have clarified range effects both start and end. So when you spend pips on range you can usw for both start and end.

If i have thenpips i can grab and object at extreme and bring to my character or vice versa or from extreme to extreme.

1 hour ago, Daeglan said:

The devs have clarified range effects both start and end. So when you spend pips on range you can usw for both start and end.

If i have thenpips i can grab and object at extreme and bring to my character or vice versa or from extreme to extreme.

Thanks for the clarification! Much appreciated.

9 hours ago, imachubchub said:

Because the description seems to differentiate between a starting range and a maximum range, I'm led to believe that whatever target you intend to affect, must start within short range of you, no matter how many Range upgrades you have or how many FP you spend.

However, the assumption I’ve come across seems to be that purchasing Range upgrades increases both the starting default range (short range) as well as the default maximum range (short range).

Prior to the devs citing otherwise, a lot of folks (including a number of very experienced GMs) operated under the first principle, that the Range upgrades only affected the maximum range due to how it was worded.

So with the regard the dev answer, the text for the Range upgrade is just poorly worded to imply it only affects the maximum range instead of the total range.