Help with True Nose Punch

By ovinomanc3r, in Star Wars: Armada Fleet Builds

Fleet 1070 (41/398/400)
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Cymoon 1 Refit (112 + 38: 150)
+ Grand Admiral Thrawn (32)
+ Darth Vader (1)
+ All Fighters, Follow Me! (5)
Onager-class Testbed (96 + 15: 111)
+ Admiral Ozzel (2)
+ Cataclysm (5)
+ Fighter Coordination Team (3)
+ Orbital Bombardment Particle Cannons (5)
Interdictor Suppression Refit (90 + 6: 96)
+ Hondo Ohnaka (2)
+ Grav Shift Reroute (2)
+ G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
Maarek Stele (21)
Colonel Jendon (20)

It may be not possible but is there any other way to increase the speed of Jendon without a Cymoon?

I mean, right the thing is this:

Star of the fist round - Onager move speed 1 due to Ozzel; trigger FCT to move Maarek distance 1

Command phase. Squad command on Onager.

Start of the Ship Phase - Hondo gives 1 squadron token to the Cymoon and 1 CF toke to Catclysm; trigger AFFM; trigger Cataclysm; trigger Thrawn Squad Command

Activate Onager, reveal squadron command, turn it into a token, activate Maarek and attack and Jendon up to speed 4 to double tap, then attack with the ignition attack with 4 rerollable red sacrificing Ozzel.

1 activation: 2 Maarek attacks and an Onager attack against a ship at speed 0 with possible critical effect.

Only problem: no room for a second g7 which would help with the speed 0 thing.

I think I solved...

The expensive Onager cannot take FCT but allows me activate 1 squadron more. So adding Rhymer to the mix I don't need the extra speed from FCT or AFFM so Cymoon out, second dictor in.

110+5+5+2+90+2+2+2+90+2+32+1+21+20+16= 400 done!

Fleet 1070 (58/343/400)
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Interdictor Suppression Refit (90 + 35: 125)
+ Grand Admiral Thrawn (32)
+ Darth Vader (1)
+ G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
Onager-class Star Destroyer (110 + 12: 122)
+ Admiral Ozzel (2)
+ Cataclysm (5)
+ Orbital Bombardment Particle Cannons (5)
Interdictor Suppression Refit (90 + 6: 96)
+ Hondo Ohnaka (2)
+ Grav Shift Reroute (2)
+ G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
Maarek Stele (21)
Colonel Jendon (20)
Major Rhymer (16)

Edited by ovinomanc3r

1:

Its not a Nose Punch unless you're using 2 Dictors. One is just not enough to force someone to deploy in the area to get any benefit... So you're misusing the name without that :) So I'm glad you came to that conclusion.

2:

Steele / Jendon / Rhymer is a strike combination. What's better than a strike combination? A Raid Combination so your Onager can Strike again.

More nails in the Nose Punch name!

Its a decent list concept, and it might see some success, but you'll have to really throw it to find out...

3:

Nose Punch Mk V (The Dictor Strikes Back) and Nose Punch Mk IV (Return of the RedDie) are already planned, but I'm intending to be Openly testing before putting them up.

:D

10 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

1:

Its not a Nose Punch unless you're using 2 Dictors. One is just not enough to force someone to deploy in the area to get any benefit... So you're misusing the name without that :) So I'm glad you came to that conclusion.

2:

Steele / Jendon / Rhymer is a strike combination. What's better than a strike combination? A Raid Combination so your Onager can Strike again.

More nails in the Nose Punch name!

Its a decent list concept, and it might see some success, but you'll have to really throw it to find out...

3:

Nose Punch Mk V (The Dictor Strikes Back) and Nose Punch Mk IV (Return of the RedDie) are already planned, but I'm intending to be Openly testing before putting them up.

:D

Regarding 2, there is no room for Gar Saxon. Without Hondo there is no Cataclysm And there is not a cheaper admiral that could provide the squadron token for the squadron command.

However, I think Ozzel was not completely necessary so I could get 2 points from him and also use a veteran captain to get the token also opening the commander selection or other stuff. Ozzel go deep enough into the enemy deployment zone to reach everything but small ships flying parallel to the side and actually touching that side, though. He also helps to reach ships not directly in front of the Onager. Not sure if Saxon worth it.

True Nose Punch (knock out version) (59/399/400)
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Onager-class Star Destroyer (110 + 13: 123)
+ Veteran Captain (3)
+ Orbital Bombardment Particle Cannons (5)
+ Cataclysm (5)
Interdictor Suppression Refit (90 + 27: 117)
+ General Romodi (20)
+ Darth Vader (1)
+ Proximity Mines (4)
+ G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
Interdictor Suppression Refit (90 + 10: 100)
+ Hondo Ohnaka (2)
+ Proximity Mines (4)
+ G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
+ Grav Shift Reroute (2)
Gar Saxon (23)
Colonel Jendon (20)
Major Rhymer (16)
Station Assault
Abandoned Mining Facility
Volatile Deposits

I just added the mines for the laughs. To be honest 9 points of bid wouldn't be so bad.

Romodi with GSR may be fun. He adds a red die to the punch.

Screed could trigger the superweapon crit though for extra damage.

if dictors go speed 2 dcaps may be a good idea.

Actually, Saxon without FCT cannot reach the deployment zone, even with Rhymer. I keep trying.

True Nose Punch (knock out version) (59/395/400)
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Onager-class Star Destroyer (110 + 13: 123)
+ Veteran Captain (3)
+ Orbital Bombardment Particle Cannons (5)
+ Cataclysm (5)
Interdictor Suppression Refit (90 + 27: 117)
+ General Romodi (20)
+ Admiral Ozzel (2)
+ G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
+ Fighter Coordination Team (3)
Interdictor Suppression Refit (90 + 6: 96)
+ Hondo Ohnaka (2)
+ G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
+ Grav Shift Reroute (2)
Gar Saxon (23)
Colonel Jendon (20)
Major Rhymer (16)
Station Assault
Abandoned Mining Facility
Volatile Deposits

True Nose Punch (knock out version) (59/400/400)
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Onager-class Star Destroyer (110 + 13: 123)
+ Veteran Captain (3)
+ Orbital Bombardment Particle Cannons (5)
+ Cataclysm (5)
Interdictor Suppression Refit (90 + 32: 122)
+ General Romodi (20)
+ Admiral Ozzel (2)
+ Expanded Hangar Bay (5)
+ G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
+ Fighter Coordination Team (3)
Interdictor Suppression Refit (90 + 6: 96)
+ Hondo Ohnaka (2)
+ G7-X Grav Well Projector (2)
+ Grav Shift Reroute (2)
Gar Saxon (23)
Colonel Jendon (20)
Major Rhymer (16)
Station Assault
Abandoned Mining Facility
Volatile Deposits

Ok, now he can and also Rhymer. But no rerolls and the opponent get a repair token.

1b1u*+1b**+1b1u*/1b**+3r*** against a speed 0 target.

*Assault; **bomber; ***with an extra red if obstructed and with a splash crit effect that doesn't affect ally squadrons cause distance.

I think you should consider running Thrawn so you can squadron 5 or 6 aces since this list is super vulnerable to being bombed to death. Probably Jendon + Steele + some auto damage scatter aces and saber squadron.

I just honestly, mostly don’t want someone else saying they have the TRUE version of something I created without even a shout out 😞

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

I just honestly, mostly don’t want someone else saying they have the TRUE version of something I created without even a shout out 😞

You will live through it, don't worry

😜

However I'm pretty sure I did...

My mistake, I gave you a head up before Catclysm. But you can't say you didn't know what I was going after. πŸ˜…

I'd personally drop the Onager from the SD to the Testbed version, that way you have 4 red at super-long range, which gives 4 chances to trigger OPBC, instead of the 3 red from the SD version. That way, you can either pick up some more squads, or some more upgrades.

Edit: Nevermind, you already discussed that earlier. Ignore me.

Edited by ianediger
19 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

My mistake, I gave you a head up before Catclysm. But you can't say you didn't know what I was going after. πŸ˜…

No, I just feel betrayed at the inherent claim of ownership.

but that is partly because things are bad enough for me, I feel that what is made and been infamous for was one of the few things I had left, and you took it away.

3 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

No, I just feel betrayed at the inherent claim of ownership.

but that is partly because things are bad enough for me, I feel that what is made and been infamous for was one of the few things I had left, and you took it away.

Think on it this way: I am just a dwarf on the shoulders of a giant.