I was looking at the saber and was kind of underwelmed. I like it, but it's just one of those unit that feel are really more associated with the extended universe (I actually don't remember seing anyone in any movie). My favourite tank do is still not annonced. But I fear it may be to big for Star Wars Legion. Do you think we will get the AT-TE ?
Do you think we will get the AT-TE ?
I was thinking the same thing. I think the height with cannon is about the same as an AT-ST but the only concern I have is how they would deal with the length. It may need to be on two different bases and you would probably move on the front base and then just have the back turn as it can.
im not excited about the saber tank too and I would like an AT-TE if they can make it work. If not the saber and AAT will be the biggest vehicles we get
3 minutes ago, ChuiSaoul said:I was looking at the saber and was kind of underwelmed. I like it, but it's just one of those unit that feel are really more associated with the extended universe (I actually don't remember seing anyone in any movie). My favourite tank do is still not annonced. But I fear it may be to big for Star Wars Legion. Do you think we will get the AT-TE ?
Definitely too big. The AAT will be the biggest model in the game so far when it comes out. Canon, those are a bit over 9 meters long, whereas the AT-TE is a bit over 22 meters long, or about 250% the length. It would have to be over a foot long to be to scale on the table.
People here seem more obsessed with the cartoons though
As much as i'd love a Legion version of "Epic" size stuff like Armada and X-Wing have, I don't think it really fits the scale of Legion. For Armada a way scaled down SSD works because the board is flat and wide open to allow movement, in Legion though terrain would get too in the way I think, even for scaled down stuff
AT-TE Would be 1.5 feet long. It would cover half the 3 foot distance between zones in battle lines deployment. If my math is correct it takes up 8% of the board.
Yes we will. AT-TE/AT-AT/etc will bring in a lot of $$. It's just a matter of time.
The only argument against it is "they're too big." Which can be solved by shrinking the model down a bit.
I predict within the next 1-2 years.
Edited by R3dReVengeSo far, Legion has been VERY scale conscious compared to other scifi miniatures games. If "too big" is the argument then it will probably be respected.
I think if they decide to do huge, expensive kits like that, they'll need to make them for 1600 point battles on 4x8 tables.
15 minutes ago, R3dReVenge said:Yes we will. AT-TE/AT-AT/etc will bring in a lot of $$. It's just a matter of time.
The only argument against it is "they're too big." Which can be solved by shrinking the model down a bit.
I predict within the next 1-2 years.
Only if it's on a bigger play field. While the $$ will be good for FFG, the developers seem like they actually care about the game.
They would have to shrink it down ALOT, it would have to be a little bigger than the saber tank to fit in scale,and it would look as bad as the SSD does for armada.
If they actually do make a larger scale game, I believe it'll be there.
Then the discussion is pretty much close. But if you would allow me a new question. What could we expect for new heavy vehicule for the republic then ? Maybe the Low Altitude Assault Transport. We say with the rebel speeder that they are not afraid to put flying unit. The scale would be better and it would give some cool mobility to the clone army. Because right now, with the lack of good and fast vehicule (I look at you BARC), I feel like the best strategy is to abuse the fire support attribute in some 18 century line fighting with obi-wan dodging everyshoot.
Edited by ChuiSaoulI think that they will do the LAAT. That is something that seems feasible and is also quite Iconic, like the AT-TE. I'd buy at least 1.
7 minutes ago, ArcticJedi said:I think that they will do the LAAT. That is something that seems feasible and is also quite Iconic, like the AT-TE. I'd buy at least 1.
Wait a sec. I know I just said the contrary, but is the LAAT really smaller then the AT-TE ? Because I just remember that there is a LAAT variant able to transport a AT-TE. So it must be at least in a similar range in terms of size ?
Edited by ChuiSaoulThe LAAT/c is the LAAT variant that you see in carrying AT-TE EPII, it's larger than the LAAT/i which is the one that carries jedi and clones around. Unless I'm mistaken, the LAAT/i is a lot smaller, and could fit in legion.
13 minutes ago, ArcticJedi said:The LAAT/c is the LAAT variant that you see in carrying AT-TE EPII, it's larger than the LAAT/i which is the one that carries jedi and clones around. Unless I'm mistaken, the LAAT/i is a lot smaller, and could fit in legion.
There's only one in canon now, and it's big (almost 30 meters long and roughly the size of an AT-AT). It would be pretty sweet if they brought the little one back for Legion.
Edited by arnoldrewAccording to Wookiepedia, the LAAT is 28.8 meters long, so it actually fits in the scale even worse than the AT-TE. But I do feel that it would be easier to scale down than the AT-TE.
2 hours ago, Draycos said:AT-TE Would be 1.5 feet long. It would cover half the 3 foot distance between zones in battle lines deployment. If my math is correct it takes up 8% of the board.
SSD in Star Wars Armada:
1 hour ago, TauntaunScout said:So far, Legion has been VERY scale conscious compared to other scifi miniatures games. If "too big" is the argument then it will probably be respected.
I think if they decide to do huge, expensive kits like that, they'll need to make them for 1600 point battles on 4x8 tables.
I really hope they're willing to risk a larger format. I know they've been pushing for smaller faster games, but I'd LOVE something like this.
27 minutes ago, ChuiSaoul said:Wait a sec. I know I just said the contrary, but is the LAAT really smaller then the AT-TE ? Because I just remember that there is a LAAT variant able to transport a AT-TE. So it must be at least in a similar range in terms of size ?
There are 2 variants of the LAAT, the Gunship and the Dropship. The wingspan and height of each is the same (18 meters & 8 meters). It's the length where they differ. The Gunship is 18 meters long while the Dropship is nearly 29 meters long. Not sure how big that would be in Legion scale though.
13 minutes ago, T70 Driver said:There are 2 variants of the LAAT, the Gunship and the Dropship. The wingspan and height of each is the same (18 meters & 8 meters). It's the length where they differ. The Gunship is 18 meters long while the Dropship is nearly 29 meters long. Not sure how big that would be in Legion scale though.
As someone else pointed out, the both variants are now the same size (28.8m) in Canon. But even if they did the 18 meter version, that's still twice the length of the AAT, which is already massive.
I'm pretty sure that all the length's are completely wrong. They don't seem to be the right size when compared to on-screen references.
2 hours ago, ArcticJedi said:Only if it's on a bigger play field . While the $$ will be good for FFG, the developers seem like they actually care about the game.
They would have to shrink it down ALOT, it would have to be a little bigger than the saber tank to fit in scale,an d it would look as bad as the SSD does for armada.
If they actually do make a larger scale game, I believe it'll be there.
Notice the bolded. FFG wasn’t afraid to shrink down the SSD. And the SSD has sold quite well at my store (and Armada is basically dead here).
They just released a small scale version of legion. They’ll release a larger scale and introduce super heavies.
1 minute ago, R3dReVenge said:Notice the bolded. FFG wasn’t afraid to shrink down the SSD. And the SSD has sold quite well at my store (and Armada is basically dead here).
Notice the bolded, as you just disproved your own point. When I said as bad as the SSD looks in armada, I meant that it looks terrible while you are playing. I've seen it on boards and it looks terrible. It looks thinner than an ISD-II.
The designers have stated in a live chat video, that they are not afraid of shrinking the larger vehicles down.
They said they have practically reached the limit of 'true' scale for legion.
So we could see some of the big boys get dropped at a later date.
4 hours ago, Lochlan said:Definitely too big. The AAT will be the biggest model in the game so far when it comes out. Canon, those are a bit over 9 meters long, whereas the AT-TE is a bit over 22 meters long, or about 250% the length. It would have to be over a foot long to be to scale on the table.
They have said in previous live streams that AAT is about as big as they would do in the current scale. If they were to do anything bigger (they mentioned the AT-TE) It would have to be scaled down slightly. This would mean it wouldn't as big as that. Shows at least that they are have thought about it and are considering it.
2 hours ago, R3dReVenge said:Notice the bolded. FFG wasn’t afraid to shrink down the SSD. And the SSD has sold quite well at my store (and Armada is basically dead here).
It's the same here. I wonder how many are being bought for playing Armada as opposed to a collectable piece for one's display cabinet. My guess is more SSDs are being bought for displaying than for playing.
Don't believe everything you read on a wiki, this is still the Star Wars databank.
Armada also never was anything like true scale, it's sliding, so for the SSD they slid a lot, and even then that's a lot less plastic than some of the large vehicles would be. FFG has also said multiple times since it came out that making the SSD it was a lot of work and expense for them to wrangle, so don't expect this to be a rapid fire production. I'd love to see some of these units, but I personally make no assertions it's any time fast coming - especially not when they just dropped Skirmish and talked about how it and standard will be receiving oh so much support, but no word of Grand Army.