In my game, we allow armor to stack in certain ways.

Use highest soak/defense

certain other extra features are still usable. A flight suit will still provide oxygen, even if you are wearing a reflec bodyglove, etc.

Combine Enc and subtract 3 from the total when worn.

certain features, like noble regalia and resplendent robes, might not work as well under most circumstances. 0 HP attachment to armor to allow it to work with them. Think gilding, ceremonial armor that's actually functional, etc. Otherwise, wearing them together might modify social rolls...depending on the encounter.

Worked very well for us fir quite some time now, but... 🤷‍♂️

There is a Ceremonial Adornment attachment in RotS that removes Setback due to wearing armor in inappropriate circumstances.

31 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

There is a Ceremonial Adornment attachment in RotS that removes Setback due to wearing armor in inappropriate circumstances.

😎 Must have missed that. Thanks

On 11/22/2019 at 11:18 PM, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

There is a Ceremonial Adornment attachment in RotS that removes Setback due to wearing armor in inappropriate circumstances.

That would be perfect for any Mandalorians out there.

On 11/21/2019 at 11:21 AM, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

To be clear, you are saying that you take the best stat of both, right?

I think that makes sense, and maybe allowing for stacking of special effects, but what I would change is that for each additional set of armor, the amount of Encumbrance reduced is decreased by 1, and (in general, exceptions would exist) since you wear the lighter armor on the inside, you end up with Laminate armor, which has an Encumbrance of 4, contributing 2 to your Encumbrance rather than 1.

Not quite, by stack I mean stack. Neep my Rodian Heavy has a varlite body glove that has 2 defense and 2 soak along with his PX-1 armor which grants 1 defense and 4 soak (superior). Combined with his brawn he has 3 defense (plus we also allow the 1 defence from cover too), and 9 soak.

So if he is in cover and fully kitted out he'll have 4 defense and 9 soak

Keep in mind though, that we've HEAVILY homebrewed the game due to the 2 guys who DM the campaigns I'm in not liking the RAW

10 hours ago, Aggressor97 said:

Not quite, by stack I mean stack. Neep my Rodian Heavy has a varlite body glove that has 2 defense and 2 soak along with his PX-1 armor which grants 1 defense and 4 soak (superior). Combined with his brawn he has 3 defense (plus we also allow the 1 defence from cover too), and 9 soak.

So if he is in cover and fully kitted out he'll have 4 defense and 9 soak

Keep in mind though, that we've HEAVILY homebrewed the game due to the 2 guys who DM the campaigns I'm in not liking the RAW

Yeah that adding of soak is definitely not RAW, and the adding of defense is almost certainly not (the dev ruling against it was before the errata on defense)

On 11/22/2019 at 9:32 AM, Donovan Morningfire said:

In terms of traditional armor, the purposes of wearing a gambeson (padded/quilted armor) under a set of plate mail wasn't necessarily for added protector against damage, but to make the armor more comfortable to wear for prolonged periods of time.

Not really, a Gambeson can save your life by itself. It’s layered linen or silk, it can stop a sword cut, or catch an arrow head, it can reduce impact damage, and if worn under plate or chain can save your life if the metal is penetrated.

Realistically an armored body glove could be all the difference that’s needed to save you if your plassteel breast plate is penetrated.

On 11/22/2019 at 2:48 PM, Tramp Graphics said:

Or akin to a gambeson , which was a form of cloth padded armor, that was very effective in its own right, but was also worn routinely under mail and even plate armor as additional padding and to prevent chafing.

yeah but that is a special gambeson and not the same as the gambeson you wear as armor

19 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

yeah but that is a special gambeson and not the same as the gambeson you wear as armor

Clarify this statement please, Gambeson is layered cloth also known as padded armor. It was worn as fashion, stand alone armor, and under armor.

2 minutes ago, Eoen said:

Clarify this statement please, Gambeson is layered cloth also known as padded armor. It was worn as fashion, stand alone armor, and under armor.

The Gambeson that is made to be stand alone armor is made differently than the gambeson made to be worn under armor. The under armor Gambeson is not as padded or thick as it is meant to be worn under armor.

7 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

The Gambeson that is made to be stand alone armor is made differently than the gambeson made to be worn under armor. The under armor Gambeson is not as padded or thick as it is meant to be worn under armor.

Maybe if you where rich, a lot of people in the middle ages only had a few sets of clothes which might last them for years. They probably stunk most of the time as well.

Just now, Eoen said:

Maybe if you where rich, a lot of people in the middle ages only had a few sets of clothes.

I didnt say they would have both. If they have heavier armor they would have the under armor gambeson. If they dont have heavier armor they would have the thicker gambeson. It is unlikely they would have 2 gambesons.

I wouldn't let soak and defense stack for layered armor, but I would let them take additional special qualities of the individual layers along with the encumbrance .

20 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

I didnt say they would have both. If they have heavier armor they would have the under armor gambeson. If they dont have heavier armor they would have the thicker gambeson. It is unlikely they would have 2 gambesons.

I’d agree if we are talking plate (which might also have chain incorporated in its design), but if we are talking chain mail then I think it be the same thickness to protect against blunt weapons, also to stop the chain from biting into your skin when it’s hit by anything.

There’s also the warmth factor in cold weather, and if you are rich you might feel the need to wear armor at home.

1 minute ago, Eoen said:

I’d agree if we are talking plate (which might also have chain incorporated in its design), but if we are talking chain mail then I think it be the same thickness to protect against blunt weapons, also to stop the chain from biting into your skin when it’s hit by anything.

It still would be made thinner than what would be worn as armor.

22 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

It still would be made thinner than what would be worn as armor.

So like 18 layers instead of 30?

I’m going to conditionally agree with you, as armor from that time period is highly custom.

31 minutes ago, Vondy said:

I wouldn't let soak and defense stack for layered armor, but I would let them take additional special qualities of the individual layers along with the encumbrance .

Is the RAW, soak doesn’t stack defense doesn’t stack but the best from each suit does like defense from one and soak from the other?

4 hours ago, Eoen said:

So like 18 layers instead of 30?

I’m going to conditionally agree with you, as armor from that time period is highly custom.

Exactly and probably cut for the armor being worn. Ie for plate and for chain are cuut different