Special new rules incoming?

By lunitic501, in Star Wars: Legion

The format has its own cards, they're listed in the document

5 minutes ago, werdnaegni said:

As I understand it, there is no battle plan deck building in this format. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

You are right, it is only the 4 cards in the rules. Sorry.

1 minute ago, UnitOmega said:

The format has its own cards, they're listed in the document

Correct, but the same ones are brought to the table each time afaik.

11 minutes ago, werdnaegni said:

As I understand it, there is no battle plan deck building in this format. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

I'm not sure. The rules document doesn't say whether you do still need command cards or not.

9 minutes ago, werdnaegni said:

Correct, but the same ones are brought to the table each time afaik.

For now. Who knows what they may do in the future.

To be honest, I like this change. But had it of been released before the clone wars released, I would have only bought a single core. 500 point play is a good choice. Gets more people into the game with a single box. This should be in the core sets in my opinion.

45 minutes ago, Paladin Ignatius said:

I'm not sure. The rules document doesn't say whether you do still need command cards or not.

Command cards are still needed for sure.

15 hours ago, Paladin Ignatius said:

I'm not sure. The rules document doesn't say whether you do still need command cards or not.

Everything is the same except where that document says it's different.

15 hours ago, werdnaegni said:

As I understand it, there is no battle plan deck building in this format. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

I think there is. It should be the exact same as the 800 point format but use the cards at the end of the rules document.

Edit: I miss counted. I guess there are only 4 to pick from for battle plans so you need to include them all.

Edited by Draycos
2 minutes ago, Draycos said:

I think there is. It should be the exact same as the 800 point format but use the cards at the end of the rules document.

There are only 4 of each type though, so how would that work?

I think the new skirmish rules are pretty funny. It's exactly what I thought the test game would be and I guess they are not even printing a set of cards for it. Kind of half-assed isn't it.

5 minutes ago, werdnaegni said:

There are only 4 of each type though, so how would that work?

Your battle deck just needs to include 4 of each type. So you take all of them.

1 minute ago, Lochlan said:

Your battle deck just needs to include 4 of each type. So you take all of them.

Right, so my point is, what is the point of doing any battle deck list-building when there are no choices to be made? You just bring them all. I could be missing something, just trying to understand.

10 minutes ago, John79 said:

I think the new skirmish rules are pretty funny. It's exactly what I thought the test game would be and I guess they are not even printing a set of cards for it. Kind of half-assed isn't it.

It saves you from having to spend 5-10 bucks on a set of 12 cards and what is effectively a 1 page rule book. It's just like the 800 point game with rules adjusted just enough to make 500 point games work. It's not that they put in minimal effort because they didn't care.They saw an opportunity that didn't take much effort and decided to go ahead and do it. Then released it free. I'm glad they took the time to give us something official. If it takes off, I'm sure we will see more effort put into it. It also means that it didn't take too much effort away from the continuing development of the 800 point format and new future models.

6 minutes ago, werdnaegni said:

Right, so my point is, what is the point of doing any battle deck list-building when there are no choices to be made? You just bring them all. I could be missing something, just trying to understand.

I edited my comment but to repeat, I miscounted the Cards at the end of the book. There wouldn't be any battle plan deck building as you need to take all of them.

Edited by Draycos
34 minutes ago, werdnaegni said:

Right, so my point is, what is the point of doing any battle deck list-building when there are no choices to be made? You just bring them all. I could be missing something, just trying to understand.

Future proofing probably? The rule already exists, and sure it doesn't actually do anything now, but by leaving it in they don't have to re-add it later if they add more cards in the future.

Am I right that the battle cards look more vehicle-friendly?

1 hour ago, Tayloraj100 said:

Am I right that the battle cards look more vehicle-friendly?

Yes. It appears all of them allow vehicles to contribute to VP accumulation though Elimination does provide for extra VP if a Heavy gets destroyed so it can go both ways.

1 minute ago, FSD said:

Yes. It appears all of them allow vehicles to contribute to VP accumulation though Elimination does provide for extra VP if a Heavy gets destroyed so it can go both ways.

It's also filling the spot of two squads (two potential VP in an elimination match). Arguably harder to take down too.

26 minutes ago, FSD said:

Yes. It appears all of them allow vehicles to contribute to VP accumulation though Elimination does provide for extra VP if a Heavy gets destroyed so it can go both ways.

Then, does that raise the value of including something like an HH-12 squad? Can you field enough DLT-19s in this format to reliably deal with an increased vehicle presence without that being your whole list?

35 minutes ago, Tayloraj100 said:

Then, does that raise the value of including something like an HH-12 squad? Can you field enough DLT-19s in this format to reliably deal with an increased vehicle presence without that being your whole list?

The HH-12 is still the worst bazooka currently. It needs to be cheaper than a DLT to warrant consideration in my opinion. Exhausting and cumbersome is a pretty hefty penalty for throwing 3 black impact dice.

The newer bazookas either dont have cumbersome or dont tap and are priced pretty aggressively to be viable alternatives to blaster heavies.