New Player - Vader Mini Swarm

By TheLukeHoffman, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Hi all,

I'm a new player who has the 2.0 Core Set, 1 TIE/ln Fighter Expansion Pack, and 2 TIE Advanced x1 Expansion Packs. I'd like to put together a list to play with friends for fun with this and would love some help from more experienced players.

What I'm currently thinking is:

  • Vader
    • Fire Control Systems
  • Tempest Squadron Pilot
    • Fire Control Systems
  • Howlrunner
    • Crack Shot
  • Night Beast
  • Academy Pilot

Thanks for reading (and hopefully giving me some tips)!

Edited by TheLukeHoffman

In terms of having fun, its a nice squad. Not competitive efficient, but good overall. To make it a tad better, drop night beast for Sense on Vader to help get blocks with your academies.

“Howlrunner” (40)

Academy Pilot (23)

Academy Pilot (23)

Tempest Squadron Pilot (38)
Fire-Control System (2)

Darth Vader (67)
Sense (5)
Fire-Control System (2)
Total: 200

Ideally, you would want Iden in place of the tempest to protect howlrunner.

Derp, I need to read more.

This would be much easier to fit if you had one more TIE fighter.

Maybe drop a ship to get more quality?

Darth Vader (67)
Hate (3)
Passive Sensors (3)
Afterburners (6)

Ship total: 79 Half Points: 40 Threshold: 3

"Scourge" Skutu (32)
Crack Shot (1)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 2

"Mauler" Mithel (32)
Crack Shot (1)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 2

Maarek Stele (46)
Marksmanship (1)
Fire-Control System (2)

Ship total: 49 Half Points: 25 Threshold: 3


Total: 194

Edited by Cerebrawl
17 hours ago, Cerebrawl said:

Derp, I need to read more.

This would be much easier to fit if you had one more TIE fighter.

Maybe drop a ship to get more quality?

Darth Vader (67)
Hate (3)
Passive Sensors (3)
Afterburners (6)

Ship total: 79 Half Points: 40 Threshold: 3

"Scourge" Skutu (32)
Crack Shot (1)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 2

"Mauler" Mithel (32)
Crack Shot (1)

Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 2

Maarek Stele (46)
Marksmanship (1)
Fire-Control System (2)

Ship total: 49 Half Points: 25 Threshold: 3


Total: 194

I guess he doesn't have passive sensors nor hate, am I right?

Id try something like this. Easy to fly with some pilotabilitys for fun. I prefer crack on Mareek, but i belive you only have 2.

(67) Darth Vader [TIE Advanced x1]
(6) Afterburners
(2) Fire-Control System
Points: 75

(32) "Mauler" Mithel [TIE/ln Fighter]
(1) Crack Shot
Points: 33

(40) "Howlrunner" [TIE/ln Fighter]
(1) Crack Shot
Points: 41

(46) Maarek Stele [TIE Advanced x1]
(2) Fire-Control System
(1) Marksmanship
Points: 49

Total points: 198

Hey all,

Thanks for the replies! I can pickup another TIE if needed. I'll look at the lists and see what seems the most fun. Can probably borrow any upgrades I don't have for now. Iden + Howlrunner seems really good.

Appreciate it.

VaderHowlIdenAcademies

(67) Darth Vader [TIE Advanced x1]
(6) Afterburners
Points: 73

(40) "Howlrunner" [TIE/ln Fighter]
Points: 40

(40) Iden Versio [TIE/ln Fighter]
Points: 40

(23) Academy Pilot [TIE/ln Fighter]
Points: 23

(23) Academy Pilot [TIE/ln Fighter]
Points: 23

Total points: 199

I tend to dislike Howlrunner. She dies too fast and the only solution is to go with Iden. You end up sinking a bunch of points into those two ships and probably would do better with other options. I also find one of the best uses for Tie Fighters is their maneuverability. Flying them in a block (as Howlrunner requires to be useful) just isn't worth it.

I liked Night Beast better. I would drop Howlrunner and go with more named Tie Fighters. They are great and affordable options. Gideon Hask is useful as Vader will surely damage someone. Del Meeko is another good option that I've used in a Vader mini-swarm. Wampa is also good.

2 hours ago, heychadwick said:

I liked Night Beast better. I would drop Howlrunner and go with more named Tie Fighters. They are great and affordable options. Gideon Hask is useful as Vader will surely damage someone. Del Meeko is another good option that I've used in a Vader mini-swarm. Wampa is also good.

This. There's so many great named TIE fighters, rolling an extra dice is worth more than rerolling one dice, and plenty have some way of rolling an extra dice.

This should be relatively easy to fly. Ini 1, 4, 4, 4, 6.

Darth Vader (67)
Hate (3)
Passive Sensors (3)
Afterburners (6)

Ship total: 79 Half Points: 40 Threshold: 3

Gideon Hask (30)
Ship total: 30 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 2

Seyn Marana (30)
Marksmanship (1)

Ship total: 31 Half Points: 16 Threshold: 2

Del Meeko (30)
Ship total: 30 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 2

"Wampa" (30)
Ship total: 30 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 2


Total: 200

Seyn with bullseye is guaranteed damage, this gets Gideon an extra attack dice, and enables Del Meeko's defense reroll aura against that ship. Wampa is a great blocker, and also has an extra attack dice.

A little lighter Vader allows you to replace Del Meeko and Seyn with Scourge and Mauler, so that literally all the TIE fighters have (conditional) extra damage dice, and they can potentially be given crack shot to amp that up further.

With JUST what you have available to you (proxying an upgrade or two), I would suggest:

Vader with Hate, Fire Control Systems, and Afterburners as a potent flanking ace

And Howlrunner, Iden Versio, and Wampa as a fruitfully offensive mini-swarm