2 minutes ago, Darzil said:

I had similar thoughts, but they were on the lines of if he's a clone, when were the clones from Clone Wars created. We looked it up later, Sifo-Dyas went to Kamino in 42 BBY, and clone army started production in 41 BBY, 50 years before The Mandalorian starts.

If the kid is a clone, it's not a clone of Yoda. Yoda has light green eyes. And Yaddle is a redhead and a very different shade of green.

When the Clone Troopers were cloned isn't relevant. It's not as if cloning was new technology at that point in time.

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On the episodes generally (watched them back to back tonight for the first time), seemed more fan service in the first, better direction in the second. Probably because Dave Filoni is more fan than director!

To be fair, it was his live action directorial debute. For a first-timer he did quite well. Famuyiwa was better, but that doesn't make Filoni bad.

The amount of fan service is probably more down to the writer than the director, Jon Favreau for both episodes.

On 11/16/2019 at 7:54 AM, wilsch said:

Episode 2 went so far on Adventure!™ it tested my sensibilities but the more I accept that this is a 45-to-60-year television throwback — which you just don't see these days with hurried scene pacing and total exposition — the more I get it.

I went back and watched them back to back and it reinforced my sense that Episode II was the third act of Episode I. Episode I is like an inspired jazz piece that draws you in, hits a great series of beats, but never quite seems to resolve. The resolution is in Episode II. Its works well as one longer pilot that should have been presented as such (IMO). Watching them that way leaves me stoked. Personally, I'm cutting Filoni some slack because this was his live action debut and his bailiwick has been animation. He really is the closest thing Lucas has to a true creative successor (disciple) and his love for the franchise really shows. He just tried to do a few too many things at one time. His animated shows were very episodic with occasional 2-3 episode arcs to tell a deeper story. Modern live action tends to be serialized with season long 8-10 episode arcs (cable-streaming) or 10-12 episode arcs that resolve around the holidays or sweeps week (network). My hope is that he does more live action and really dials the format in because he could, one day, make a fantastic feature length live-action film.

Do we know what planets are in the sh OP w?

11 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Do we know what planets are in the sh OP w?

According to starwars.com The third planet where he recovers "the asset" Yoda" is Arvala-7.

Link: https://www.starwars.com/databank/kuiil

I haven't found a reliable reference for the first two.

12 minutes ago, Vondy said:

According to starwars.com The third planet where he recovers "the asset" Yoda" is Arvala-7.

Link: https://www.starwars.com/databank/kuiil

I haven't found a reliable reference for the first two.

Well i noticed his rifle is an amban sniper rifle

That's quite an interesting nod to Boba Fett.

do we know the name of his first capture? maybe that would have the planet he was captured on?

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Amban_phase-pulse_blaster

Starwars.com calls it an Amban sniper rifle.

Just realized that Baby and Anakin were "born" the same year, 41 BBY! Conspiracy check?

13 minutes ago, bsmith23 said:

Just realized that Baby and Anakin were "born" the same year, 41 BBY! Conspiracy check?

That’s interesting, maybe he’s young Snoke and in thirty more years he’ll be a dark side Hugh Hefner.

57 minutes ago, bsmith23 said:

Just realized that Baby and Anakin were "born" the same year, 41 BBY! Conspiracy check?

That is also when Sifo dyas went to kamino

8 hours ago, bsmith23 said:

Conspiracy check?

See? This should be a skill. I've always said so.

18 hours ago, Rosco74 said:

I am more astonished by the 2 rebuilding the ship in a night... it can be a 40 hours night we don't know this planet well

I'm wondering if the Mando's citing "it'll take days!" was less factual and more hyberbole. After all, he's probably not an expert engineer (likely knows just enough to fix minor problems and keep the ship running, not unlike most modern day car owners), and so to him the task of putting the ship back together was a task of such magnitude that it would have taken him a ridiculously long time.

The Ugnaught guy however is/was an expert engineer, and thus knew various ways to speed up the work to the point it could have been completed in a single night (however long night lasts on that planet).

I figure they spent the night and at least a portion of the following day (possibly into early to late afternoon) getting the ship back up and running.

21 hours ago, GroggyGolem said:

Baby Yoda is ridiculously cute. If it does speak at some point, I hope it doesn't speak backwards and we find out that Yoda just had a speech impediment. Would put an entirely new spin on the movies.

It's Legends at this point, but in one of the Clone Wars novels, it's mentioned that Yoda deliberately chose to speak that way to force the listener (usually small children and even some headstrong adults) to pay closer attention to what he was saying, as well as expend a bit more mental effort to fully understand his words than they might have had he spoken in a more normal pattern.

Then again, it could also have been an archaic speech pattern, as the guy is 900 years old so it's possible that at the time of his childhood, that way of speaking was the galactic norm, and he just simply chose not to alter his speech patterns over the passing of the centuries.

12 hours ago, Vondy said:

I went back and watched them back to back and it reinforced my sense that Episode II was the third act of Episode I. Episode I is like an inspired jazz piece that draws you in, hits a great series of beats, but never quite seems to resolve. The resolution is in Episode II. Its works well as one longer pilot that should have been presented as such (IMO).

Interesting, and a pretty solid analogy now that I think about it. I think Favreau wanted to end the first episode on a surprise note, thus stopping in the midst of the overall story to end on the shock of the bounty being a baby of Yoda's species, as a means to hook viewers into watching the next episode to find out more.

To me, the second episode initially felt like a "breather episode." Which in turn made it feel off because breather episodes in most series tend to occur at least a few episodes into a series, typically after some major event so as to give the audience a chance to catch their breath. It's not bad, just a bit off, but I like you take on them being in effect a single story that was broken out into two parts, and probably would have worked better as a single episode, though the fights in the second part might have felt a bit anti-climactic after the big gun battle that capped the first episode.

Anyone tried building the Mando in the game, or thought about his specs?

5 minutes ago, StarkJunior said:

Anyone tried building the Mando in the game, or thought about his specs?

He's definitely Bounty Hunter as a career, with Gadgeteer as his primary spec, getting him Ranged: Light and Mechanics as skills as well as some nice talents to boost up his armor (which is most likely heavy battle armor for obvious reasons), and then dipping into Assassin as his secondary spec. Definitely would be at the Heroic Level at the very least given his broad capability.

If building as a PC, likely 3's in Brawn, Agility, Willpower, and possibly also Cunning depending if the GM is using regular Human species or if they're allowing the Mando species write-up (not all GMs permit the "variant Humans" in their games for an assortment of reasons).

5 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

I'm wondering if the Mando's citing "it'll take days!" was less factual and more hyberbole.

I assumed this was the writers hanging a lampshade on the fact that it should take days before dismissing it by proceeding at the speed of plot with a music montage and the alien's suggestion that help would speed the process along.

The technique boilds down to "give reality a nod before handwaving it out of your way." It helps that there aren't any visible clocks and we don't actually know how long that "music makes time-consuming and boring technical stuff less boring" sequence....

2 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

He's definitely Bounty Hunter as a career, with Gadgeteer as his primary spec, getting him Ranged: Light and Mechanics as skills as well as some nice talents to boost up his armor (which is most likely heavy battle armor for obvious reasons), and then dipping into Assassin as his secondary spec. Definitely would be at the Heroic Level at the very least given his broad capability.

If building as a PC, likely 3's in Brawn, Agility, Willpower, and possibly also Cunning depending if the GM is using regular Human species or if they're allowing the Mando species write-up (not all GMs permit the "variant Humans" in their games for an assortment of reasons).

Ha nice. I was wondering how long before someone tried to spec him. I was thinking this during the last episode that if he is pretty capable in both Melee, Ranged (heavy) and Ranged (light). I like the 3's in Br, Ag, Will and Cun which I think is pretty accurate, at least as far as we know so far. We also see a bit of Int in medicine, and maybe mechanics but that could just be ranks in skill.

I love how this show feels like it's been taken straight from the EotE book line and each episode just 'duracretes' that idea more.

Watching this wonderful show has made me reconsider doing really hard concrete inventory. In Star Wars it seems like you have stuff mainly if story says you should have it. Trying to get people to use this without abusing it may be chancy, but I think I want to try it again.

30 minutes ago, Archlyte said:

Watching this wonderful show has made me reconsider doing really hard concrete inventory. In Star Wars it seems like you have stuff mainly if story says you should have it. Trying to get people to use this without abusing it may be chancy, but I think I want to try it again.

I think that's already kinda built into the system. I know you can spend a destiny point to say you have an item you might need. There may also be a talent or two with that ability.

On 11/16/2019 at 6:32 AM, Ahrimon said:

Maybe that's why old dude thought he was dead? It took so long to get back. Like crossing miles of desert without a vehicle, most normal people don't make it.

I'm chalking up his rifle as disruptor rifle with individual power packs.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I think this is actually the first time we've seen a disruptor blaster ever fired on screen.

It's not the first time we've seen a Disruptor fired on screen. In Rebels, season 1 episode 3, we saw Kanan use a T-7 Disruptor on a AT-DP and drop it with one shot. The effect there was an impact followed by multi-colored sparkles as the machine crashed to the ground. We don't know what a Disruptor would do to a living being so a liquefied target could be what happens.

1 hour ago, VadersMarchKazoo said:

Ha nice. I was wondering how long before someone tried to spec him. I was thinking this during the last episode that if he is pretty capable in both Melee, Ranged (heavy) and Ranged (light). I like the 3's in Br, Ag, Will and Cun which I think is pretty accurate, at least as far as we know so far. We also see a bit of Int in medicine, and maybe mechanics but that could just be ranks in skill.

I love how this show feels like it's been taken straight from the EotE book line and each episode just 'duracretes' that idea more.

It was the same for me watching Rebels. To me it seemed like the writers of that show were watching a RPG session run by Pablo Hidalgo, taking notes, and then writing episodes based on what went on in the game.

42 minutes ago, Therian said:

I think that's already kinda built into the system. I know you can spend a destiny point to say you have an item you might need. There may also be a talent or two with that ability.

I agree, but I was really not allowing anything that was not written down unless a DP or an ability allowed for it, but I feel like it violates a newer approach I have toward the setting where it's Story Heavy and Detail Light. If the story calls for a portable worklight on a pole and it seems like something that can be there then cool.