I have to say, I have mixed feelings about Ep 8. They basically hit the reset button on the awesome, tense situation they had put together at the end of Ep 7, and they did it in a way that was quite cartoonish in some places. I liked it overall, but not as much as I expected to like it.
Did anyone else feel like Moff Gideon's verbose speech pattern made him seem a bit pretentious and (unintentionally?) silly?
Just now, DaverWattra said:Did anyone else feel like Moff Gideon's verbose speech pattern made him seem a bit pretentious and (unintentionally?) silly?
A little bit, but I didn't mind too much. This episode had a few slightly goofy moments (like the slow-mo Flametrooper striding dramatically into the room with the flamethrower over his shoulder) but all-in-all I think it did a decent job. The "I'll give you until nightfall." seemed a bit much. I didn't mind him being so pretentious, but it did make him seem a little bit silly.
41 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:A little bit, but I didn't mind too much. This episode had a few slightly goofy moments (like the slow-mo Flametrooper striding dramatically into the room with the flamethrower over his shoulder) but all-in-all I think it did a decent job. The "I'll give you until nightfall." seemed a bit much. I didn't mind him being so pretentious, but it did make him seem a little bit silly.
I think he is super arrogant. Which is fitting. He got his *** handed to him because he misjudged his plan vs his target.
1 hour ago, DaverWattra said:Did anyone else feel like Moff Gideon's verbose speech pattern made him seem a bit pretentious and (unintentionally?) silly?
Essential Star Wars villain.
So, no. 
1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:This episode had a few slightly goofy moments (like the slow-mo Flametrooper striding dramatically into the room with the flamethrower over his shoulder) but all-in-all I think it did a decent job.
I was thinking why aren't they plugging him repeatedly with blaster bolts during his pose in the doorway. We got to see what he looked like outside walking up. The scene needed more constant flame and lots of smoke to explain why they were hunkered down and not returning "fire".
Edited by Sturn1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:like the slow-mo Flametrooper striding dramatically into the room with the flamethrower over his shoulder
Man are we on different pages here... I ******* love that the somewhat ‘throw away’ weapons of the Universe are scary all of a sudden. An E-Web just became the scariest thing for a group of PC’s to encounter... Let alone a flametrooper!
I can't speak for P-47, but I loved the inclusion of the weapons also. I just cringed a bit when these hero-level characters were hunkered down while I was thinking they should have been at least attempting to put several holes into the easy target. There was a mookish soldier with a big scary weapon....and they just hid behind some tables. Throw in some more flame and smoke to explain why they couldn't get a shot, and the scene is golden.
Edited by SturnJust now, Sturn said:I can't speak for P-47, but I loved the inclusion of the weapons also. I just cringed a bit when these hero-level characters were hunkered down while I was thinking they should have been at least attempting to put several holes into the easy target.
I figure the E-Web has a protected side in its battery that is pointed at the enemy and a side where there are vents and vulnerability that is pointed at a safe side.
2 minutes ago, Sturn said:I can't speak for P-47, but I loved the inclusion of the weapons also. I just cringed a bit when these hero-level characters were hunkered down while I was thinking they should have been at least attempting to put several holes into the easy target. There was a mookish soldier with a big scary weapon....and they just hid behind some tables. Throw in some more flame and smoke to explain why they couldn't get a shot, and the scene is golden.
Yeah, same here.
I (pretty much) always love it when they include more weapons and stuff, I just cringe when the tactics are awful.
I was talking about the flamethrower.
1 minute ago, Sturn said:I was talking about the flamethrower.
Well I guess being surrounded by a burning building does put you a couple of steps behind the competition.
I wonder if Din will go by Din now, or continue to go by Mando?
1 minute ago, StarkJunior said:I wonder if Din will go by Din now, or continue to go by Mando?
I hope he still goes by Mando. I enjoy that he now has a name, I'm less certain on the face, but I enjoyed having the character as nameless and faceless. It'll be interesting to see how they handle it. Unfortunately, that wait is a lot longer than a week now. 😢
Now I can only think of Dicaprio’s scene in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood where he asks if the flamethrower can be made to be “less hot”.
Just now, P-47 Thunderbolt said:I hope he still goes by Mando. I enjoy that he now has a name, I'm less certain on the face, but I enjoyed having the character as nameless and faceless. It'll be interesting to see how they handle it. Unfortunately, that wait is a lot longer than a week now. 😢
It was important for his development to have that scene with IG-11 and now the show doesn't need to show his face again. It was great because it wasn't a fanfare thing when he removed the helmet, it was just a thing that happened, for a larger purpose of his development.
I can see him letting Greef and Cara call him Din, since they know - and the Armorer - but still Mando to the galaxy at large.
Just now, StarkJunior said:It was important for his development to have that scene with IG-11 and now the show doesn't need to show his face again. It was great because it wasn't a fanfare thing when he removed the helmet, it was just a thing that happened, for a larger purpose of his development.
Oh yeah, I agree, but sometimes once you have a visual you loose the effect of not having the visual. We'll just have to wait and see.
1 minute ago, StarkJunior said:I can see him letting Greef and Cara call him Din, since they know - and the Armorer - but still Mando to the galaxy at large.
Yeah, probably. Has Cara actually ever addressed him "by name"? I know Greef has, but I can't remember if she ever did.
1 minute ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:Yeah, probably. Has Cara actually ever addressed him "by name"? I know Greef has, but I can't remember if she ever did.
I don't think so? Pretty sure it was just Greef and the Armorer.
Just now, StarkJunior said:I don't think so? Pretty sure it was just Greef and the Armorer.
What did the Armorer address him as?
(to clarify, I'm referring to calling him "Mando" or some other nickname, not calling him Din.)
Just now, P-47 Thunderbolt said:What did the Armorer address him as?
(to clarify, I'm referring to calling him "Mando" or some other nickname, not calling him Din.)
I don't think she called him anything, actually. She called them all hunters, but nothing specifically with a name, until she called him Din in Chapter 8.
8 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:Oh yeah, I agree, but sometimes once you have a visual you loose the effect of not having the visual. We'll just have to wait and see.
Well, when you hire someone with a relatively high profile like Pedro Pascal, most of your audience already has that visual to some degree. When you also make a big deal throughout the season that the helmet shouldn't be taken off, it becomes Chekhov's Helmet, and has to come off at some point. It's not a matter of "if," but "when."
I'm curious now, though, if Mando's renounce their original names and only let people call them 'hunter' or 'Mando' or if it's not a specific renouncing but only those closest to them call them their birth names? Or if its a Foundling thing that don't come from an already established clan?
Just now, Nytwyng said:Well, when you hire someone with a relatively high profile like Pedro Pascal, most of your audience already has that visual to some degree. When you also make a big deal throughout the season that the helmet shouldn't be taken off, it becomes Chekhov's Helmet, and has to come off at some point. It's not a matter of "if," but "when."
I actually hadn't heard of Pedro Pascal before he was tapped to play the Mandalorian, but I am usually able to avoid identifying on-screen characters with their off-screen actors. So while I cognitively knew what the Mandalorian looked like under the helmet, I didn't have the actual experiential association and saw the helmet as his face (if that word salad makes any sense to you).
I get that last bit and wasn't objecting to it in the slightest, I was just wondering how it'll affect my viewing experience ongoing.
The main question regarding Death Watch is that the customs then seem to contradict what we've seen in other Canon sources. I was sort of expecting that it would be another Mandalorian group that had a more stringent version of the code, a Mandalorian group we haven't seen before. Making it Death Watch leaves some timing difficulties with the other Canon sources.
1 minute ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:I actually hadn't heard of Pedro Pascal before he was tapped to play the Mandalorian, but I am usually able to avoid identifying on-screen characters with their off-screen actors. So while I cognitively knew what the Mandalorian looked like under the helmet, I didn't have the actual experiential association and saw the helmet as his face (if that word salad makes any sense to you).
Makes sense, and it's fair. Generally speaking, though, he's recognizable enough to many through his brief but memorable role on Game of Thrones (enough so that his interview with Andi Gutierrez on The Star Wars Show referenced that character's fate and tied it in to wearing a helmet this time around 🤣). Heck...before The Mandalorian was even announced, I swiped his GoT look for a potential character in an Age of Rebellion campaign. He's not a huge name, but a big enough one, I'd say, that there were basic expectations of what he looks like under the helmet.
4 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:The main question regarding Death Watch is that the customs then seem to contradict what we've seen in other Canon sources. I was sort of expecting that it would be another Mandalorian group that had a more stringent version of the code, a Mandalorian group we haven't seen before. Making it Death Watch leaves some timing difficulties with the other Canon sources.
I assumed it was Death Watch that saved him, but he wasn't raised by them. Maybe they delivered him to the tribe/clan we see, or something else happened.