11 minutes ago, Vondy said:

Sabine doesn't have it at that point. She insisted on giving it to Bo-Katan who reluctantly accepted it and the title of Mandalore in memory of her sister Duchess Satine.

See" Star Wars Rebels "The Heroes of Mandalore."

Well, we know she's not alive at that point because we hear her in Rey's head, but we don't know what actually happened to her!

Well except Dave Filoni inplies otherwise with a drawing of Gandalf and Asokha with Gandalf saying they thought he was dead too.

5 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Well except Dave Filoni inplies otherwise with a drawing of Gandalf and Asokha with Gandalf saying they thought he was dead too.

I suppose, in an Abram's film, she could be MindSkyping Rey. 🙄

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Unfortunately, she's probably dead. 😭 Bo Katan is one of my favorites, but given that Gideon has the Darksaber... I'm sad. When I saw the Darksaber half of me went "Ooo!" and the other half went "You killed Bo Katan didn't you."

Even assuming the worst for her fate, the show’s made effective use of flashbacks in season 1, so she could appear in similar fashion.

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Who else wants Sabine to make an appearance? There are so many unanswered questions about Mandalore, I'm glad we're starting to get more info.

I’d imagine Filoni has dibs on Sabine (and Ahsoka) and telling the story of the search for Ezra. Even a small appearance here would cut into that, unless they fudge the timeframe enough to say the Rebels epilogue took place after any appearance on The Mandalorian.

27 minutes ago, Vondy said:

Well, we know she's not alive at that point because we hear her in Rey's head, but we don't know what actually happened to her!

Then there’s Filoni’s Christmas Day tweet:

1 minute ago, Nytwyng said:

Then there’s Filoni’s Christmas Day tweet:

We shall see. I'm an Aksoka fan, so it wouldn't upset me, but... until we see it on screen is all up in the air.

10 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

I’d imagine Filoni has dibs on Sabine (and Ahsoka) and telling the story of the search for Ezra. Even a small appearance here would cut into that, unless they fudge the timeframe enough to say the Rebels epilogue took place after any appearance on The Mandalorian.

That presumes they found him in short order. The last we saw of Ezra he and Thrawn were on a psychedelic hyperspace whale propelled magic carpet ride into the unknown regions on an effectively scuttled star destroyer. He could, at this point, still be missing.

36 minutes ago, Vondy said:

That presumes they found him in short order. The last we saw of Ezra he and Thrawn were on a psychedelic hyperspace whale propelled magic carpet ride into the unknown regions on an effectively scuttled star destroyer. He could, at this point, still be missing.

Not if the epilogue is after an appearance on The Mandalorian. If so, Sabine appears on the show, moves on to the Rebels epilogue, and then to the quest for Ezra.

Thoughts on Episode VIII

This was a very strong episode and great season finale.

This isn't a criticism because I really enjoyed the scene, but the opening with the scout troopers vibed "elevated fan film" to me.

I liked how this episode worked in more information about our protagonists backstory and fleshed out Mandalorian culture and The Creed more. \

Even Cara was shown to know something of Mandalorians to help in that series of reveals.

Cara is like a hammer looking for a nail vis-a-vis her problem solving skills, but that makes sense for her character. I like her and hope we see her again in season 2.

It was interesting to get a name and a face and have the Mando become a defacto head of a clan of two. It is also neat that, for the interim, Baby Yoda is a foundling and therefore an honorary Mandalorian.

As always, I like me my Baby Yoda. They managed to have him do something important without having him steal the other characters. The "magic hands" wave at Greef was perfect.

Speaking of Greef, he is turning out to be one congenially smooth master of the face-heel turn and makes for an interesting supporting character.

Greef's reference to the imperials as "scum and villainy" that had needed removing so his town could become a nice bounty hunting town again was amusing.

I like that IG-11 was used to challenge the Mandalorians perception of droids (called it!). I also like that they waited until the finale to reveal his face and that it was IG-11 who pulled his helmet off.

The Mando's moment of glory taking down the TIE fighter was well executed and drove home just how big a determinator he is.

Moff Gideon is way to loquacious. He's eloquent, yes, but man he runs on at the mouth. I think he'll make an interesting villain in the long run, but man... he needs to get to his point

Also, his decision to give them until dark was idiotic. That is a lot of time. But, in terms of characterization, we could chalk that up to underscoring his arrogance.

And, did anyone else notice....

The blue-clad Mandalorians who saved our hero as a child had the Death Watch symbol on their pauldrons.

1 minute ago, Vondy said:

And, did anyone else notice....

The blue-clad Mandalorians who saved our hero as a child had the Death Watch symbol on their pauldrons.

Yeah, I kinda wondered about that. No real surprise, though.

23 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

Not if the epilogue is after an appearance on The Mandalorian. If so, Sabine appears on the show, moves on to the Rebels epilogue, and then to the quest for Ezra.

That would be a huge stretch. The content of Sabine's dialogue, the apparent age of Hera and Kanan's child, and scenes depicting people celebrating on Lothal place the epilogue immediately following the battle of Endor. In other words, the dialogue is set around 5 ABY. This show is set aound 10 ABY. They certainly could have found Ezra by now, but I secretly hope Ezra is still riding that whale into oblivion...

Just now, Vondy said:

They certainly could have found Ezra by now, but I hope Ezra is still riding that whale into oblivion.

But what about Thrawn?

I understand the objection to Ezra, but poor Thrawn...

I noticed the Death Watch symbol, too, and I'm curious as to Din's journey from that rescue to his eventual tribe/clan we meet in the show. Argh, give me Season 2!

1 minute ago, StarkJunior said:

Argh, give me Season 2!

+1

Cara being from Alderaan also gives a lot of weight to her hatred of Imperials. I'm also curious if she was off-world at that time and already in the Rebellion or if she joined up after her planet got blown up.

Perhaps her career started as an MMA fighter, but after Alderaan was destroyed, she joined up with the Rebellion!

1 minute ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

But what about Thrawn?

I understand the objection to Ezra, but poor Thrawn...

I absolutely love Thrawn. I regard him to be far more compelling than the Emperor was as a villain.

The original Thrawn trilogy had him leading Imperial Remnant as they moved back in from the Unknown Regions.

Ride that Whale baby! 😎

26 minutes ago, StarkJunior said:

Cara being from Alderaan also gives a lot of weight to her hatred of Imperials. I'm also curious if she was off-world at that time and already in the Rebellion or if she joined up after her planet got blown up.

Seemed unnecessary to me. I like to think that there are a great any worlds where the inhabitants have reason to hate the Empire, so the tendency to make such a character from Alderaan seems lazy.

1 minute ago, HappyDaze said:

Seemed unnecessary to me. I like to think that there are a great any worlds where the inhabitants have reason to hate the Empire, so the tendency to make such a character from Alderaan seems lazy.

It's more dramatic, the audience will be sure to know it, and they don't have to do any explaining.

3 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

It's more dramatic, the audience will be sure to know it, and they don't have to do any explaining.

Right. Lazy.

Just now, HappyDaze said:

Right. Lazy.

Or less important than other characters so a shorthand doesnt waste screen time on a character that wont be in every episode. Everyone already knows that story.

I didnt see the Heavy Mandos helmet in the pile.

Yeah, I noticed that. Unfortunately, there was a lot of pile, and she appeared to have been at it for a while. I wonder what happened to her...

That said, it not being there might be a hint that he will make a return in Season 2. One can hope. At the very least, it doesn't rule out the possibility.

50 minutes ago, Vondy said:

That would be a huge stretch. The content of Sabine's dialogue, the apparent age of Hera and Kanan's child, and scenes depicting people celebrating on Lothal place the epilogue immediately following the battle of Endor. In other words, the dialogue is set around 5 ABY. This show is set aound 10 ABY. They certainly could have found Ezra by now, but I secretly hope Ezra is still riding that whale into oblivion...

As mentioned, it would require some finesse to the timeline, such as saying that the celebration on Lothal was an anniversary of the end of the war (or Lothal’s liberation) or somesuch. It’s not probable, but possible, especially if there are plans to eventually tell that Sabine/Ahsoka story while having a Sabine appearance on this show and keeping the quest’s full outcome open.

23 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:

Right. Lazy.

Or, simply, "recognizable."

2 minutes ago, Vondy said:

Or, simply, "recognizable."

Kuiil had a "recognizable" backstory, but it was brief and effective without relying upon name-dropping.