Mandalorian - Spoilers inside, don't read until watched

By Varlie, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

4 hours ago, Eoen said:

Moff Gideon has the Darksaber! More hints as to the fate of Mandalore...

I was not expecting that to show up.

I do feel that at this point, it's less hints at what happened and more explicitly spelling it out.

That's Tag and Bink in the opening scene and you can't tell me any different.
3 hours ago, RLogue177 said:

For years I thought an IG droid reprogrammed to be a medical droid would be a fun, ironic character. Curse you, Favreau! If I make that character now, I'll just be "stealing" the idea from this show. :(

I have this character via the torture droid re-program: "Doctor" IT0-B411

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I was not surprised that Gideon survived, but I was surprised that he had the Darksaber.

I loved this episode! Tactics (and aim) were a bit sketchy on the stormtrooper side, but all-in-all, pretty good! Cara Dune has now been solidly placed as easily top 5 favorite non-clone Star Wars characters. Probably top 3, but I've never really been able to pin down an order all that well. I loved her full name... :D I can see why she goes by Cara. However, I do question whether her problem solving capabilities extend past "LRB, BABY!" cuz sometimes I wonder. :D
I hope she reappears in Season 2.
One note on the concept art for her, I am really glad they didn't go for the pixie cut. I think the long hair suits her better. (on a side note, rewatched the concept art for 6. Man am I glad they didn't give Burg a beard. Makes him look far too dignified)

My prediction was sort of proved correct (though not exactly in the manner I expected) in that we saw someone take his helmet off.

I'm sad about the fate of Mandalore. My headcanon for a while was that the Empire pretty much sealed Mandalore off from the galaxy with interdictors and stuff but didn't want to commit to a full-on ground invasion because of the costly fight that would have to be waged.

I really enjoyed "Tag & Bink: Scout Troopers!" at the beginning. That was very funny.

I also really loved the whole plot-line with IG-11. That was a very good one.

6 hours ago, Varlie said:

I know how you feel. I GM a game in the Old Republic time period and one of the players had expressed interest in running and told me to design a character. I designed a Mandalorian (back in June) and of course he hasn't run it yet so now it will look like I'm just following what's popular.

People worry too much about what other people think and how things look. They also worry too much about openly enjoying trendy things. One of the not so cool traits of my generation (Generation X) is the notion that its cool to look askance and what "the masses: think is cool. I call it the "I'm too special and smart a snowflake to join in syndrome." I've been as guilty of it as any of my age mates over the years, but it has a dark side and get can ugly and sabotage your enjoyment of life really fast. Its the cultural equivalent of an arrogant sneer. Your player should bite the bullet and play the character they want to play whether its trendy or not.

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1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

I'm sad about the fate of Mandalore. My headcanon for a while was that the Empire pretty much sealed Mandalore off from the galaxy with interdictors and stuff but didn't want to commit to a full-on ground invasion because of the costly fight that would have to be waged.

A ground invasion would only be considered if they were interested in the real estate. If the Empire just wanted to send a very loud and clear message, some Star Destroyers can level the planet without ever putting a singly trooper on the ground.

1 minute ago, Vondy said:

People worry too much about what other people think and how things look. They also worry too much about openly enjoying trendy things. One of the not so cool traits of my generation (Generation X) is the notion that its cool to look askance and what "the masses: think is cool. I call it the "I'm too special and smart a snowflake to join in syndrome." I've been as guilty of it as any of my age mates over the years, but it has a dark side and get can ugly and sabotage your enjoyment of life really fast. Its the cultural equivalent of an arrogant sneer. Your player should bite the bullet and play the character they want to play whether its trendy or not.

I think it's just a matter of wanting to be original.

For me and my friend group, at least, it's sort of a running joke about "We were doing X before it was cool!" just to be funny, not so much actually wanting something not "loved by the masses" per se. Usually it is in a negative context of "I built an ARC trooper, and 5 months later, CotR comes out. =P Well hey, at least I did it before it was cool!"

(or jokes about how The Mandalorian stole names from my Mandalorian bounty hunters campaign. I named their contact Green before it came out, thank you very much. It's not my fault they named the Mando's contact Greef! Or, Player: "My character is named Kara!" (2 months later) "The Mando's pal is named Cara. Are you kidding me." :D)

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

I'm sad about the fate of Mandalore. My headcanon for a while was that the Empire pretty much sealed Mandalore off from the galaxy with interdictors and stuff but didn't want to commit to a full-on ground invasion because of the costly fight that would have to be waged.

Well, Filoni wasn't going to depart from The Clone Wars and Rebels. In The Clone Wars it was established that Mandalore had demilitarized after the Clan Wars and that those who refused to to so had become, for the most part, off-world separatists. That made Mandalore easy pickings when Palpatine declared the New Order. In Rebels we learn that 1) Bo-Katan had effectively become a resistance leader in exile, 2) Mandalore was being run by Imperial collaborators (Pre Vizla) that no one wanted to start a fight with, 3) there were many Star Destroyers ported at Mandalore, and 4) there wasn't a real attempt at an uprising until shortly before the Battle of Yavin. My take from various references in legends to a Purge, and now the show, is that whatever short-term gains their uprising won turned out to be completely Pyrrhic and perhaps even catastrophic.

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Oh, man, I loved the episode! What a great way to end Season 1 and get folks excited for Season 2 - which seems to have a rather unique and interesting theme! It's still very much a 'hunt', but of such a different kind! And 'Clan Djarin' being the two of them is really cool, and so is the Mudhorn signet!

I really, really enjoyed that they didn't kill Cara or Greef, and that IG-11 and Mando had their own little bonding that allowed Din to maybe start to realize that droids can be like people and not all terrible. I actually had feelings when he sacrificed himself, which was great and unexpected. I loved the Armorer getting to be badass and that she also survived.

Gideon seems to be an interesting main antagonist and I can't wait to see how he develops in the coming seasons.

"It's not a race - it's a creed" is great, too.

I was not expecting the Darksaber, so that was cool!

I think one of my favorite things is how each episode revealed a little more about Din's backstory and they did the same for the supporting characters. It really made you invested in all the characters and eager to see them return.

Easily my new favorite show and I absolutely cannot wait until Season 2!

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10 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

A ground invasion would only be considered if they were interested in the real estate. If the Empire just wanted to send a very loud and clear message, some Star Destroyers can level the planet without ever putting a singly trooper on the ground.

"...marking another successful planetary liberation using the Base Delta Zero Initiative."

That they had him remain a Mandalorian and become more involved in the culture with basically becoming the head of a clan was awesome! So many shows have their protagonist break away from their 'culture' or whatever to be different, but I like how Din's journey is as much about becoming more a Mando as it is learning to care for the Child.

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Like so many others, I wasn’t expecting the Darksaber. Now more than ever I want a guest appearance from Katee Sackhoff....

1 minute ago, Nytwyng said:

Like so many others, I wasn’t expecting the Darksaber. Now more than ever I want a guest appearance from Katee Sackhoff....

Unfortunately, she's probably dead. 😭 Bo Katan is one of my favorites, but given that Gideon has the Darksaber... I'm sad. When I saw the Darksaber half of me went "Ooo!" and the other half went "You killed Bo Katan didn't you."

Poor Mandos...
(Add it to the list with "Poor clones...")

Who else wants Sabine to make an appearance? There are so many unanswered questions about Mandalore, I'm glad we're starting to get more info.

53 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Who else wants Sabine to make an appearance? There are so many unanswered questions about Mandalore, I'm glad we're starting to get more info.

I could see her maybe showing up in Season 2. Maybe Din figures out Sabine used to travel with "one of those Jedi sorcerers" so he tracks her down to see if she has any information about where the Child might come from.

We ALSO need to know who that was at the end of Chapter 5 that seemingly 'rescued' Fennec Shand - as it wasn't Gideon!

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Just now, StarkJunior said:

I could see her maybe showing up in Season 2. Maybe Din figures out Satine used to travel with "one of those Jedi sorcerers" so he tracks her down to see if she has any information about where the Child might come from.

Ooo! Good thinking! That would be awesome.

Just now, StarkJunior said:

We ALSO need to know who that was at the end of Chapter 5 that seemingly 'rescued' Fennec Shand - as it wasn't Gideon!

I'd nearly forgotten about that! At the very least, who found her corpse. I'm not convinced she wasn't dead.

37 minutes ago, StarkJunior said:

I could see her maybe showing up in Season 2. Maybe Din figures out Satine used to travel with "one of those Jedi sorcerers" so he tracks her down to see if she has any information about where the Child might come from.

I assume you mean Sabine Wren and not Satine Kryze.

Duchess Satine died in Obi-Wan Kenobi's arms in The Clone Wars episode "The Lawless."

Yeah, I mistyped, lol. Sabine!

52 minutes ago, StarkJunior said:

I could see her maybe showing up in Season 2. Maybe Din figures out Satine used to travel with "one of those Jedi sorcerers" so he tracks her down to see if she has any information about where the Child might come from.

We ALSO need to know who that was at the end of Chapter 5 that seemingly 'rescued' Fennec Shand - as it wasn't Gideon!

how do we know it wasnt Gideon?

Just now, Daeglan said:

how do we know it wasnt Gideon?

The spurs - I assume he's the type of dude who wouldn't randomly change his boots that aren't part of his overall ensemble.

42 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Unfortunately, she's probably dead. 😭 Bo Katan is one of my favorites, but given that Gideon has the Darksaber... I'm sad. When I saw the Darksaber half of me went "Ooo!" and the other half went "You killed Bo Katan didn't you."

Bo-Katan is also one of my favorite characters! She didn't actually want the Dark Saber and tried to convince Sabine to keep it and lead instead. My hope is that they leave Bo-Katan's fate a mystery or come up with something other than "she died off screen." One option would be that he simply stole it. That would give our hero a strong impetus to recover it for his people. Call it an intensely personal heritage-driven bounty.

42 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Poor Mandos...
(Add it to the list with "Poor clones...")

Who else wants Sabine to make an appearance? There are so many unanswered questions about Mandalore, I'm glad we're starting to get more info.

I would love to see her yet remain circumspect. When we last met Sabine she was stepping onto a ship with Ahsoka Tano to search for Ezra Bridger after the Battle of Endor. Sabine? She grew on me and ties directly into the Mandalorian themes. Ahsoka? She indisputably ties into the Force themes. However, bringing in established headliners from other shows is fraught with peril. It would have to be handled with a deft hand and be intelligently woven into the story. Ergo, if it vibes as straight-up fan service it will ultimately be a disservice to the show. And, please no Ezra.

In terms of Rebels: I was more interested in Kanan, Hera, and Ahsoka's stories in Rebels, but Sabine grew on me over time. I found Zeb ho-hum, but Ezra vacillated between just tolerable and annoying (for me).

25 minutes ago, Vondy said:

When we last met Sabine she was stepping onto a ship with Ahsoka Tano to search for Ezra Bridger after the Battle of Endor. Sabine? She grew on me and ties directly into the Mandalorian themes. Ahsoka? She indisputably ties into the Force themes. However, bringing in established headliners from other shows is fraught with peril. It would have to be handled with a deft hand and be intelligently woven into the story. Ergo, if it vibes as straight-up fan service it will ultimately be a disservice to the show. And, please no Ezra.

In terms of Rebels: I was more interested in Kanan, Hera, and Ahsoka's stories in Rebels, but Sabine grew on me over time. I found Zeb ho-hum, but Ezra vacillated between just tolerable and annoying (for me).

Yeah, that was my first thought when I saw the darksaber. Somehow Sabine lost it? I just rewatched the last episode of "Rebels", but now I may have to watch the last 2min again to see if Sabine is carrying / wearing the darksaber when she leaves with Ahsoka, post-Endor.

From the "voices" in TRoS, we know Ahsoka's eventual fate (albeit 30 years after Endor)...

1 minute ago, Khyrith said:

Yeah, that was my first thought when I saw the darksaber. Somehow Sabine lost it? I just rewatched the last episode of "Rebels", but now I may have to watch the last 2min again to see if Sabine is carrying / wearing the darksaber when she leaves with Ahsoka, post-Endor.

From the "voices" in TRoS, we know Ahsoka's eventual fate (albeit 30 years after Endor)...

Sabine gave it to Bo Katan who used it to unite (most of) the Mandalorian clans against the Empire.

1 minute ago, Khyrith said:

Yeah, that was my first thought when I saw the darksaber. Somehow Sabine lost it? I just rewatched the last episode of "Rebels", but now I may have to watch the last 2min again to see if Sabine is carrying / wearing the darksaber when she leaves with Ahsoka, post-Endor.

Sabine doesn't have it at that point. She insisted on giving it to Bo-Katan who reluctantly accepted it and the title of Mandalore in memory of her sister Duchess Satine.

See" Star Wars Rebels "The Heroes of Mandalore."

1 minute ago, Khyrith said:

From the "voices" in TRoS, we know Ahsoka's eventual fate (albeit 30 years after Endor)...

Well, we know she's not alive at that point because we hear her in Rey's head, but we don't know what actually happened to her!