Mandalorian - Spoilers inside, don't read until watched

By Varlie, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

2 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

If you’re the last remnants of a hated empire and strength in numbers is of the essence then wiping out “more than four” troopers is a bad idea.
But I loved the episode. I thought the way the scouts were hanging on their bikes was awesome. It was so obviously post Emperor....

The sequels have shown us that they do not lack for numbers. At most, they spend a few decades giving the illusion that they lack for numbers.

I like the idea that the empire is pretty fragmented at this time and that many of the different factions are vying for control or at least may have less than united fronts. This is explored a bit in the Alphabet Squadron novel and probably some other media from this time period. So I'm in the camp that while they were both from the "Empire" that this is a much less than united entity and probably use each other and compete or even fight as needed. Perhaps not the most effective strategy, but a realistic dynamic.

1 hour ago, VadersMarchKazoo said:

OK, elephant in the room. Why did new BBG have his men wipe out all the folks in the room including old BBG? I will say that the stormtroopers that arrived looked much more clean and disciplined. Is this a different Imperial Faction or actually a legit Imperial remnant rather than Herzog's organization that looked more like mercenary soldiers? Or are they all one group and it was just a @#$%-move?

"The Client" was pure old-school Empire, he relished the old ways and sought to bring them back. The new BBG represents the New Empire (or New Order) and has decided that that requires trimming the fat of the old order. He gave Herzog a chance to step up, get things in order and complete a task and he failed.

Not sure how he knew the child was not in the basket or in the area but knew enough that he had pre-decided that Herzog had failed (for the last time).

4 minutes ago, Varlie said:

Not sure how he knew the child was not in the basket or in the area but knew enough that he had pre-decided that Herzog had failed (for the last time).

I wouldn’t be surprised by another betrayal by Karga. Given Gideon’s wording and the loss of comms, until that last shot, I was momentarily worried about a betrayal by Kuill.

21 minutes ago, Varlie said:

Not sure how he knew the child was not in the basket or in the area but knew enough that he had pre-decided that Herzog had failed (for the last time).

The tracking fobs? They were a big thing in the beginning of the season, but somehow Mando didn't think these guys could verify the runt's location with a tracking fob.

Thoughts on Episode VII

I thought this was an entertaining half-episode that evoked the "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" ending as its cliff-hanger.

The Mandalorian is weirdly both straight-man and protagonist. He works best as a character when other character's are playing off of him. He's more interesting with other people around than he is as a loner. The show felt more alive with Kuill, Cara Dune, Yobaby, and IG-11 along for the ride.

Speaking of Yobaby. It may be the most endearing character Star Wars has ever produced. I love this character. I also like how they have worked the force in as an instinctive trait for this species. Its just how they roll. The force-choke was also an interesting way of showing the developing bond between the Mandalorian and Yobaby. It was, based on the emotions and conflict it felt, trying to defend him.

Kuill has grown on me. I didn't connect with this character in the first two episodes he appeared in. He was a bit too pat and pretentious. In this one I got a real sense of both his backstory and character and found him likable. His low-burn animosity with Cara Dune was well done. From the looks of it he was just knocked unconscious when his Blurg was shot out from under him.

Corano has proven fun to watch and she makes a good confederate for the Mando. I hope she's in and out as the series progresses. We learned a little bit from her comment on her units previous raid on this planet, and we know whatever she's wanted for is more than just going AWOL or getting on the wrong-side of a higher up. I still want to learn more about the New Republic / politics / circumstances through this character. If I don't I'm going to shake my fist at the writers.

I'm not a big droid fan but IG-11 has been set up to come to the rescue and force the Mandalorian to deal with his "droid issues." I suspect Kuill is going to be initiating some buried super-nanny "defense" protocols very soon...

Werner Herzog is great. My impression is that he's functioning as an "independent contractor" for Moff Gideon. A combination of trying to prove himself and make himself useful. Either for straight-up profit or to try to be brought into whatever faction the Moff represents.

I liked the TIE-fighter. That was cool. It was also neat to see a live-action version of the troop transport. And man, that is a lot of Storm Troopers! It will be interesting to learn whether Moff Gideon is a jumped-up sector warlord, a part of a bigger Imperial Remnant, or somehow involved with a nascent First ORder. I'm wondering if Yobaby is more than he's bargaining for. ;)

This is totally subjective and others may disagree, but I don't like Blurgs. I just find them "stupid looking."

The Devaronian wasn’t phased by Mando’s flame thrower in Episode 6. I’m taking it as possibly meaning in the new canon, they’re heat/flame resistant. Given this is the first appearance of one on-screen since the cantina in ANH, it’s an easy detail to add and goes with the devilish look of the species.

So what do you think? Is this an ability newly revealed about the species or was this particular Devaronian just one tough SoB?

8 minutes ago, GlowingDice said:

So what do you think? Is this an ability newly revealed about the species or was this particular Devaronian just one tough SoB?

I think he’s just super tough maybe a colossus, mixed with some thug spec. The flamer probably didn’t go much over soak.

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1 hour ago, GlowingDice said:

The Devaronian wasn’t phased by Mando’s flame thrower in Episode 6. I’m taking it as possibly meaning in the new canon, they’re heat/flame resistant. Given this is the first appearance of one on-screen since the cantina in ANH, it’s an easy detail to add and goes with the devilish look of the species.

So what do you think? Is this an ability newly revealed about the species or was this particular Devaronian just one tough SoB?

The later, he's just one tough SOB, on top of running on adrenaline after the Mando tried to strangle him.

Or maybe he's got asbestos skin. Had it replaced after that tanning parlor accident on Diabian Foo.

12 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Or maybe he's got asbestos skin. Had it replaced after that tanning parlor accident on Diabian Foo.

He acted like he had a sunburn in the last scene.

3 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Or maybe he's got asbestos skin. Had it replaced after that tanning parlor accident on Diabian Foo.

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I figured the whole devil look informed his imperviousness to fire...

12 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

I figured the whole devil look informed his imperviousness to fire...

Dude seemed like he was impervious to a lot of stuff.

3 hours ago, micheldebruyn said:

Dude seemed like he was impervious to a lot of stuff.

If looking at it from the perspective of the three major Star Wars RPGs...

D6 = a very high Strength die code, rolling exceptionally well while Mando rolled poorly on his flamer's damage roll.

D20 = lots of hit points, probably also a good Fortitude save/defense to allow him to shrug off the effects of being set on fire.

FFG = Really high Soak (Brawn of about 4, couple ranks of Enduring, and wearing heavy clothing at the very least); after Mando missed with his flamer attack but still got enough advantage to trigger the Blast quality, but that damage wasn't enough to get through the Devaronian's high soak value.

TFW you wake up on a Friday excited for a new Mandalorian episode, only to remember you still have a week to go. :(

1 hour ago, StarkJunior said:

TFW you wake up on a Friday excited for a new Mandalorian episode, only to remember you still have a week to go. :(

The Witcher show that just came out on Netflix seems to share a lot of DNA with The Mandalorian, judging by the first episode.

7 hours ago, micheldebruyn said:

The Witcher show that just came out on Netflix seems to share a lot of DNA with The Mandalorian, judging by the first episode.

Yeah, I've been watching it - enjoying it a lot! Henry Cavill is great when he's got good material.

BUT I MUST KNOW IF BABY YODA IS OKAY

By the way...

“Can I offer you a libation to celebrate the closing of our shared narrative?”

...is now possibly my favorite Star Wars line of all time. I understand why they had to kill off the character the minute after he said it. It would only have been down hill from there.

10 minutes ago, penpenpen said:

By the way...

“Can I offer you a libation to celebrate the closing of our shared narrative?”

...is now possibly my favorite Star Wars line of all time. I understand why they had to kill off the character the minute after he said it. It would only have been down hill from there.

I loved that line - and being delivered by Werner Herzog was icing on the cake.

3 minutes ago, StarkJunior said:

I loved that line - and being delivered by Werner Herzog was icing on the cake.

With another cake on top of the icing.

The exchange between Cara, Kuill and the Mandalorian about what the yodelling is - whether evolved or made. :ph34r:

sorry if this was mentioned, but brother pointed out a parallell.

Kuiill has a montage to explain how droids are neither good nor bad, but a neutral reflection of those who imprinted on them.

... and then basically the next scene baby yoda is force choking dune. lol

Who's been raising the child?
Mando
What's the child been seeing this past month?
Nothing but mass violence

Just now, thinkbomb said:

What's the child been seeing this past month?
Nothing but mass violence

One could argue that he's been seeing Mando being protective of his friends, so then he was protecting Mando from Cara (if a little bit misguided), rather than attacking Cara. :D

26 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

One could argue that he's been seeing Mando being protective of his friends, so then he was protecting Mando from Cara (if a little bit misguided), rather than attacking Cara. :D

When you can levitate a mudhorn, you don't have to go for the kill if you just want to protect.

43 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

When you can levitate a mudhorn, you don't have to go for the kill if you just want to protect.

Children often dont grasp proportion.