Just now, micheldebruyn said:

I don't recall ever seeing a regular TIE land before, but have always wondered, if they could and/or how they did it.

they show them land in Rebels.

4 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

I don't recall ever seeing a regular TIE land before, but have always wondered, if they could and/or how they did it.

There were a couple times in Rebels. If I remember correctly, they would land on the edges of their wings without any additional support. They only ever landed on actual landing pads, though, never just on soft ground.

33 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

There were a couple times in Rebels. If I remember correctly, they would land on the edges of their wings without any additional support. They only ever landed on actual landing pads, though, never just on soft ground.

There is one Episode wherein Zeb and Ezra land a stolen TIE on a grassy plain.

That would require hard and relatively level ground, however, and would not be standard operating procedure or even possible in all situations.

1 hour ago, StarkJunior said:

It could also be that Moff Gideon is Extra and was like "give my ship some landing gear, I wanna be That Guy."

Wouldn't be the first time a high-ranking Imperial with aspirations of self-importance gave themselves a custom ride. Director Krennic had his own shuttle in Rogue One, the Inquisitors had the TIE Advanced v1 prior to them being unveiled on Lothal during Season 1 of Rebels, and even Vader got in on it with his personal TIE Advanced x1.

Given the Empire remnant is likely starting to hurt for resources (at least those not being funneled to the Unknown Regions), it'd be easier to customize a TIE/ln to better accommodate ground landings than build an entirely custom vessel.

1 hour ago, Daeglan said:

they show them land in Rebels.

I don't recall. But Rebels wouldn't have been able to afford a model for a landable TIE anyway.

4 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

I don't recall. But Rebels wouldn't have been able to afford a model for a landable TIE anyway.

Do you mean because of budget concerns? They developed models of several vehicles for that show.

There was an artwork in the Art of The Force Awakens book that showed these although they never showed up in the movie

I wonder if you flew in from the left or right side of a tie fighter, that the pilot wouldn’t be able to see you approach?

1 hour ago, Eoen said:

I wonder if you flew in from the left or right side of a tie fighter, that the pilot wouldn’t be able to see you approach?

the X-wing books had the pilots using that against the Tie Pilots

1 hour ago, Varlie said:

There was an artwork in the Art of The Force Awakens book that showed these although they never showed up in the movie

Probably an advance from the TIEs in Rebels. newer improved model.

1 hour ago, micheldebruyn said:

I don't recall. But Rebels wouldn't have been able to afford a model for a landable TIE anyway.

It was TIES at an Imperial base.

On 12/17/2019 at 12:35 PM, VadersMarchKazoo said:

I look at this as a Batman episode. The gang is straight outa' Gotham, which explains their big personalities.

That's the best description for the gang I've seen. It doesn't make me like them any more, but that's a clever way of summing them up. I really hope we don't get more Gotham or anything Harley Quinn-esque in the future.

Whoah. Ep. 7 may be the best one yet. ****.

The last scene was pure perfection. Pure perfection that was then refined to high octane perfection. Possibly a rare isotope of perfection that hasn't been seen until now. Ten out of five.

Werner Herzog exits stage left. Giancarlo Esposito enters stage right, like a boss.

As for the TIE, I see it as a possibly being minor incremental upgrade that doesn't warrant an entirely new designation. Just like Aftermath introduced that some TIEs by then actually have ejection seats. For most practical intents and purposes a TIE is TIE is TIE, but it makes perfect sense that minor upgrades would be implemented over time. This might not make it better at doing it's primary job, but perhaps just more convenient to deal with.

Also, least important topic for discussion: is Cara Dune's rifle a heavy blaster rifle or a light repeater? (I'd say light repeater based off the double drum mag and that they make a point of showing autofiring )

All of the TIEs we've seen landing on their solar panels did so at a prepared landing pad with ladders for embarking/debarking of the pilot. The folding wings make sense if you're landing at a location not set up for TIEs landing

16 hours ago, Eoen said:

I wonder if you flew in from the left or right side of a tie fighter, that the pilot wouldn’t be able to see you approach?

Sir, our consultant from Sienar Fleet Systems recommends more TIEs flying on either side!

9 hours ago, penpenpen said:

Also, least important topic for discussion: is Cara Dune's rifle a heavy blaster rifle or a light repeater? (I'd say light repeater based off the double drum mag and that they make a point of showing autofiring)

I'd go for LRB on that one, largely for the reasons you outlined. Not sure how much can be added to your reasons, though, as the distinction isn't all that great.

That was the first truly great episode of this show. Bravo.

On 12/18/2019 at 8:32 AM, T70 Driver said:

Ok, how many of those who've watched episode 7 counted/guestimated how many minion groups were outside of the cantina in that last scene?

Yeah, this was such a GM move, LOL, especially near a finale... "All of a sudden you are surrounded by 5 minion groups of 4 stormtroopers each and 6 Death Troopers. Oh, and here comes the BBG who's gonna monologue for a second." "He climbs out of his tie fighter....cause his wings fold down to allow him to land...yes that's a thing!"

1 minute ago, VadersMarchKazoo said:

Yeah, this was such a GM move, LOL, especially near a finale... "All of a sudden you are surrounded by 5 minion groups of 4 stormtroopers each and 6 Death Troopers. Oh, and here comes the BBG who's gonna monologue for a second." "He climbs out of his tie fighter....cause his wings fold down to allow him to land...yes that's a thing!"

And then the Boy Scout PC decides to throw that Thermal Det he's been saving! 😈

Bye-bye BBEG.

(mechanically, it really would kill nearly all of them)

Yeah, I was waiting for Mando just to lean out and pop the Imp in the head but that wouldn't be good storytelling. Lots of fun and cheers but not good storytelling

Just now, Varlie said:

Yeah, I was waiting for Mando just to lean out and pop the Imp in the head but that wouldn't be good storytelling. Lots of fun and cheers but not good storytelling

I nearly pulled that on my GM once when I was just starting on this game, but I decided to be nice (also, he wouldn't let me ).

OK, elephant in the room. Why did new BBG have his men wipe out all the folks in the room including old BBG? I will say that the stormtroopers that arrived looked much more clean and disciplined. Is this a different Imperial Faction or actually a legit Imperial remnant rather than Herzog's organization that looked more like mercenary soldiers? Or are they all one group and it was just a @#$%-move?

1 minute ago, VadersMarchKazoo said:

OK, elephant in the room. Why did new BBG have his men wipe out all the folks in the room including old BBG? I will say that the stormtroopers that arrived looked much more clean and disciplined. Is this a different Imperial Faction or actually a legit Imperial remnant rather than Herzog's organization that looked more like mercenary soldiers? Or are they all one group and it was just a @#$%-move?

I think Moff Gideon is/was Werner Herzog's characters boss - they referenced him briefly in Chapter 3 - and Gideon was just punishing him for his incompetence, basically. And he had Death Troopers, nasty pieces of work.

Just now, VadersMarchKazoo said:

OK, elephant in the room. Why did new BBG have his men wipe out all the folks in the room including old BBG? I will say that the stormtroopers that arrived looked much more clean and disciplined. Is this a different Imperial Faction or actually a legit Imperial remnant rather than Herzog's organization that looked more like mercenary soldiers? Or are they all one group and it was just a @#$%-move?

I think that it was sort of a faction and a half. BBEG is the real faction, small fry thought he was a part of the faction, but wasn't really. He was more of a symbiote, but he had outlived his usefulness and was considered a liability. It also serves to show the Mandalorian (and the audience) that this guy doesn't give a crap and will kill anything that gets in his way, even if only marginally, as I doubt that the client actually constituted an obstacle or threat and was more just a potential liability. I'd say he probably approached the client's "faction" and gave them the job as a way of proving that they could run with the big kids, while having no real intention of letting them actually join up.

If you’re the last remnants of a hated empire and strength in numbers is of the essence then wiping out “more than four” troopers is a bad idea.
But I loved the episode. I thought the way the scouts were hanging on their bikes was awesome. It was so obviously post Emperor....