3 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

I did like that the Twi'gal very much went against the established grain of being, as you put it, the "generic hot girl" and I think her over-the-top and frankly creepy attitude helped solidify that she wasn't just there to be eye candy, which sadly is more than can be said of Twi'leks in the films thus far; Hera Syndulla of Rebels really being the only prominent female Twi'lek that wasn't portrayed in a fan-servicey way, but a large part of that might be that the character was conceived of and thought before they decided to make her a Twi'lek.

I agree that they were going for creepy rather than sexy probably for the reasons you state. I think both Twi'leks in this episode looked weird because they don't have eyebrows, which just looks creepy (see: Pink Floyd the Wall). Hera had eyebrows and it went along way. I agree that I don't need all Twi'leks to be over-sexualized in SW media but still - I hope they haven't set precedence for eyebrow-less twi-leks forever:)

Edit: On wookieepedia I read this-- "Both males and females have little to no body hair, with the only notable exception being eyelashes to aid in keeping out the sand and heat of Ryloth. Females typically had painted eyebrows or had their eyebrows tattooed on, in order to appear more palatable and less alien to more base-line humanoid offworlders."

19 hours ago, Vondy said:

Yeah, and I didn't expect a lot, but man, "Dave, you only get ONE line, please!"

Ha. I loved Dave F's line in this. I thought it was comical and well delivered. He makes it sound like this is no big deal, just another criminal outpost that they need to destroy as a daily routine. Ho hum. LOL.

Now, why the New Republic would just blast the outpost without attempting non-violent actions first, including some sort of investigation/criminal proceedings...eh...I'll just write that up to off-screen details, like the outpost was developing firing solutions or demonstrated threat with the launch of a fighter. Not saying that new republic pilots should be wearing body cams but..🤔😁

Of course the answer is...pacing.

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I've heard of double posts before but this is just...

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You can't really delete, just erase the text.

46 minutes ago, VadersMarchKazoo said:

Ha. I loved Dave F's line in this. I thought it was comical and well delivered. He makes it sound like this is no big deal, just another criminal outpost that they need to destroy as a daily routine. Ho hum. LOL.

Now, why the New Republic would just blast the outpost without attempting non-violent actions first, including some sort of investigation/criminal proceedings...eh...I'll just write that up to off-screen details, like the outpost was developing firing solutions or demonstrated threat with the launch of a fighter. Not saying that new republic pilots should be wearing body cams but..🤔😁

Of course the answer is...pacing.

I'm going to assume that covering that was one line of dialog too many for the scene's flow. Once they saw the fighter preparing to launch they were entitled flip to "weapons hot." However, they didn't issue a warning to stand down, which I agree would have made a lot more sense. "Unidentified gunship, this is Captain So-And-So of the New Republic in command of a flight of three X-Wing star-fighters. Stand down or we will engage..." BOOM.

42 minutes ago, VadersMarchKazoo said:

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I was wondering why my feed blew up...

The first encounter with the security droids the team is unable to defeat a single one, and they are all together except the Mando who is stalking behind at the moment.

But later the gunslinger just wipe out 4 of them in a second and alone... ok maybe he got them from behind but nonetheless, that's odd.

6 minutes ago, Rosco74 said:

But later the gunslinger just wipe out 4 of them in a second and alone... ok maybe he got them from behind but nonetheless, that's odd.

He got the drop on them and wasn't being pinned down at the time. When you can't aim to shoot, it's pretty hard to take them down.

He got some hit on them the first time, but it just bounced... the second time it just one shot them... maybe they are not as much armored at the rear I dunno

He didn't get as many hits, and the hits probably weren't as direct, more glancing.

8 hours ago, Vondy said:

I'm going to assume that covering that was one line of dialog too many for the scene's flow. Once they saw the fighter preparing to launch they were entitled flip to "weapons hot." However, they didn't issue a warning to stand down, which I agree would have made a lot more sense. "Unidentified gunship, this is Captain So-And-So of the New Republic in command of a flight of three X-Wing star-fighters. Stand down or we will engage..." BOOM.

Could also have something to do with the type of beacon the NR guard activated. Apparently, given the mercs reactions, it's definitely something to be wary of.

My thoughts are it's a definitive "kill code" switch. Normal SOS, no worries just use the com. But coms jammed, hostiles assaulting a max security area where the criminals are more dangerous out but didn't want to kill outright first (I mean, the NR is supposed to be more....civilized...right? LOL) and there is a no way out situation, press button for assured destruction. Wherever the tracking beacon is needs to become space dust.

Dunno, that sounds good enough for the moment. Not really trying too hard to think about it. Doesn't kill anything from the episode for me either way.

9 hours ago, StarkJunior said:

It's interesting in that the four criminals + Rand were sort of the "what everyone thinks badass outlaws should be in a sci-fi setting", complete with over-the-top personalities and the costumes and general dynamics, complete with backstabbing and the like.

Contrasted with Mando seeming to be that at a first glance, until you get into the depth of his character and realize he's NOT that, it's sort of an interesting commentary on it. Not sure if it was intended, but something I caught on a second viewing.

To be honest I kinda see the show as about how one deals with turma. The mandolorian is an isolated figure who doesn't have a name, wears armour that obscures features and keeps everyone away from him. A man entirely defined by his hatred of droids and occupation. If it wasn't for the kid he might've been happy continuing to just take jobs as is; making money, taking bounties, killing crooks. Yet it is the secondary character of the Yodaling that pokes away at his hard façade. It will be interesting to see if we eventually get even a name out of him, beyond "Mandolorian", as that would be a gigantic reveal given how isolated he usually is. I feel the only time he would ever show his face is when he's truly ready to put the guns down.

Those folks are a foil to that message, same with the folks working for the guild; they are more akin to predators that treat information as something profitable to attack and lash onto; the kid as a sign of softness, the droid sifting rough his information. Those kinda folks are the reason he needs to put up that wall in the first place, where even people who seem reasonable on the surface like the gunslinger in episode 5 are utterly greedy tools willing to sell a child to make a quick buck and 5 minutes of fame. He can't afford to be venerable for a moment, but follows a custom that puts him in challenging situations with the worst society has to offer. It's great to see why he has that front in the first place, I probably would've brought it a lot less if the galaxy didn't appear so hostile at a glance.



Re gun guy actually doing something: I think it was more because he was really psyked up at this point. The guy is basically an inadequate mess with confidence issues, displayed by talking much more game then even the hired muscle of the party while being spooked by simple things. He's probably is actually a pretty decent sharp shooter, but his terrible character (as in, him as a person) holds him back from that, he's only confident when he has a possie behind him, and he's only a good marksman when someone presents their back to him. The character of who he is in the presence of others is different to who he really is; a cowardly man who's scared of his own shadow, which is something the Mandolorian took advantage of by playing on his twitchy nature. Nice touch. Basically, pretty typical gang culture stuff; corner a snot nosed runt in the UK and he will say anything to appease you, confront him with a bunch of folks at his back? He'll talk about banging your mother all day and maybe toss acid in your face, especially to women. Nothing brings them more joy then ruining something beautiful and functional just like 90% of the people we see in the Mandolorian.

Never underestimate the inverse power of ninjitsu.

A horde of Ninja are cannon-fodder mooks who die like punks.

A single ninja is a horde-breaking figure of terror.

So, too, Mayfeld...

In a group he's ineffectual but as a lone gunman? Watch out!

32 minutes ago, Vondy said:

In a group he's ineffectual but as a lone gunman? Watch out!

Did someone say “Lone Gunmen?”

I look at this as a Batman episode. The gang is straight outa' Gotham, which explains their big personalities. The Mando, of course, is Batman, sure unlike Batman the Mando likes guns but he sure had moves like Batman and he left the bad guys all tied up in the end.

My question is this: Has the Mando found a new respect for life and is his distaste for the underworld riff-raff a new thing. We don't really know much about him before episode 1. I can see the argument both ways:

1) Maybe he was a happy-go-lucky bounty hunter and sometimes criminal that didn't really care about much until he met this kid and now he's trying to cope with new feelings as his life is now in flux.

or

2) Maybe the Mando has always been an honorable guys. I mean, he certainly seems to have a personal code and belongs to a tribe of 'noble' warriors. So maybe he's always been somewhat of a dark knight, so to speak (see what I did there).

But there seems to be evidence against the 'always honorable' option, especially in this episode, given that he used to do jobs like the one in chapter 6 and was apparently OK with it. I'm leaning towards he has changed or is changing.

47 minutes ago, VadersMarchKazoo said:

My question is this: Has the Mando found a new respect for life and is his distaste for the underworld riff-raff a new thing. We don't really know much about him before episode 1. I can see the argument both ways:

1) Maybe he was a happy-go-lucky bounty hunter and sometimes criminal that didn't really care about much until he met this kid and now he's trying to cope with new feelings as his life is now in flux.

or

2) Maybe the Mando has always been an honorable guys. I mean, he certainly seems to have a personal code and belongs to a tribe of 'noble' warriors. So maybe he's always been somewhat of a dark knight, so to speak (see what I did there).

I think it's definitely two, it's just that his sense of what is and isn't honorable has started to shifted a bit recently.

It’s indicated that being a mando is meant to be honourable. Just his idea of honour was that of his word, if he was contracted to do a job then he will see it through to completion, even if he hates them (despite hating droids he will work alongside them). Hence the Baby Yoda was the first time where he broke his code of honour by turning on the imperial staff. Some things are more important then honour.

glad to see he doesn’t extend honour to his enemies though, it’s a code of conduct, not being a lawful stupid paladin obligated to announce an intention to duel. Your either a client, an obligation or dead.

54 minutes ago, LordBritish said:

glad to see he doesn’t extend honour to his enemies though, it’s a code of conduct, not being a lawful stupid paladin obligated to announce an intention to duel. Your either a client, an obligation or dead.

Where real Knights ever really like the paladin stereotype. The Knights Templar where burnt at the stake, after being tortured for years. An Sir Elton John is was a knight too.

1 hour ago, LordBritish said:

It’s indicated that being a mando is meant to be honourable. Just his idea of honour was that of his word, if he was contracted to do a job then he will see it through to completion, even if he hates them (despite hating droids he will work alongside them). Hence the Baby Yoda was the first time where he broke his code of honour by turning on the imperial staff. Some things are more important then honour.

I think your dealing with two systems of 'codes':

The Mandalorian tribe seem to have a code or set of values like - don't remove your helmet, take care of foundlings, value the tribe, maybe 'don't work for imperials and more stuff that we're sure to learn. This is the way.

There's also a separate bounty hunter code: which has long been part of lore and has more to do with the do's and donts of working with other bounty hunters, respecting the deal with the client, etc.

Of course, our character has been dealing with both of these sets of values/codes. Plus his own 'moral code', whatever that is and whenever that started.

10 hours ago, VadersMarchKazoo said:

I look at this as a Batman episode. The gang is straight outa' Gotham, which explains their big personalities. The Mando, of course, is Batman, sure unlike Batman the Mando likes guns but he sure had moves like Batman and he left the bad guys all tied up in the end.

My question is this: Has the Mando found a new respect for life and is his distaste for the underworld riff-raff a new thing. We don't really know much about him before episode 1. I can see the argument both ways:

1) Maybe he was a happy-go-lucky bounty hunter and sometimes criminal that didn't really care about much until he met this kid and now he's trying to cope with new feelings as his life is now in flux.

or

2) Maybe the Mando has always been an honorable guys. I mean, he certainly seems to have a personal code and belongs to a tribe of 'noble' warriors. So maybe he's always been somewhat of a dark knight, so to speak (see what I did there).

But there seems to be evidence against the 'always honorable' option, especially in this episode, given that he used to do jobs like the one in chapter 6 and was apparently OK with it. I'm leaning towards he has changed or is changing.

Based on a few disintegrated Jawas, I'd guess he's had a minor change of heart when it comes to killing where he's less frivolous about it.

Then again, leaving the mercs on the prison ship alive could simply be a prudent strategy in case he ends up in legal trouble later. It'd play well in any court that he had no part in the murder of the soldier if he takes down the actual killers and leaves them locked up, but alive.

In fact, he can probably argue that he took the mission in order to help the republic find and deal with the outlaw/merc station.

But it's probably not something you want to take your chances on, so it'd be better to slip away, like he did.