8 minutes ago, Vader is Love said:

The Purge will be discussed heavily for a long time. Some fans still frown upon pacifist mandalore from tcw and the fact, that many mandalorians bowed to the empire in rebels. They will have a hard time to accept, that their beloved warriors got crushed lol.

I'm a huge Mandalorian fan - though I've never really been a fan of the Karen Traviss nonsense. For me it's more about the idea of a warrior culture and tribal folk, and I actually like the sort of mysterious, lone soldier vibe we get from this show, combined with a neat blend of samurai and Wild West gunslinger elements. They clearly have a fearsome and awe-inspiring reputation, but it's not overblown like it is in the Traviss stuff, and just works... better. I especially liked how when all the Mandos showed up at the end of Episode 3, Greef was like "oh ****" - and rightfully so.

I feel they've earned a lot more here in this show than elsewhere.

1 hour ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Hopefully she lives up to the hype that I've seen building up around the character given the actress playing her.

This is just my subjective take on Corano; she has a fair dose of natural charisma and has the necessary athleticism to carry an action role, but she's not a "great talent" as an actress. That said, she's done well in roles that 1) were clearly written to play to her strengths, and 2) surrounded her with a talented cast of actors. If the directors and writers let her move, give her some snappy dialogue, and don't ask her to stretch too much she will probably do fine.

2 minutes ago, Vondy said:

This is just my subjective take on Corano; she has a fair dose of natural charisma and has the necessary athleticism to carry an action role, but she's not a "great talent" as an actress. That said, she's done well in roles that 1) were clearly written to play to her strengths, and 2) surrounded her with a talented cast of actors. If the directors and writers let her move, give her some snappy dialogue, and don't ask her to stretch too much she will probably do fine.

I liked her in Furious 6, where she played a similar sort of "tough" character, so I could see her doing well here if Cara Dune is written that way.

I just like her. A lot. Maybe a bit too much...

1 minute ago, DanteRotterdam said:

I just like her. A lot. Maybe a bit too much...

I don't really keep track of which actors are who from what, but if she's the lady with the LRB, she looks pretty cool. (though there is a decent chance that that's more because of the gun )

On 11/23/2019 at 12:00 PM, Eoen said:

A camtono of Beskar would be pretty heavy, hope they have repulsor assist.

Wonder if that’s part of what the tech of it does. It’s secure and has internal repulsor tech to lighten the internal load, while still requiring it to be physically carried so it’s still in-hand.

I'm coming to terms on the length of the episodes. I was disappointed at first but now it appears they adjust the length to meet what they are trying to show in the episode rather than adding in filler to meet a specific length. Whole new way to work and I kind of like it although it does leave me wanting more.

Just now, Nytwyng said:

Wonder if that’s part of what the tech of it does. It’s secure and has internal repulsor tech to lighten the internal load, while still requiring it to be physically carried so it’s still in-hand.

Maybe, it would match up with some of what we see other places, but I don't think there was so much of it that it would be that heavy. There were only 20 of the ingots.

21 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Maybe, it would match up with some of what we see other places, but I don't think there was so much of it that it would be that heavy. There were only 20 of the ingots.

Got me thinking that such container's repulsors could be used in two different ways. One, lift assist for the owner. Secondly, the container could be linked to it's owner via a thumb or palm print. If someone else tries to pick it up, the repulsors work in reverse, making the container impossibly heavy to pick up? 😁

On 11/23/2019 at 10:46 AM, welldressedgent said:

Do Mandalorians shave? wash their hair? Do they need to drink through straws?

Yeah this is something I like about the show because there is a trade-off between the cool of the Mandalorians and having to live to a code. It means that Mandalorian characters made in this mold will not be social characters to a large degree, as they are less relatable between never showing their faces and their taciturn manner. Characters with extraordinary coolness need some offsets in my opinion, so this works to allow others to shine in that social role. Also the tech level in Star Wars is so high that the helmet and armor could conceivably be super wearable without accruing biological build up, but I think also it's not something that is supposed to be explained. Also it shows discipline for a soldier to keep their gear on when it isn't comfortable to do so. I would imagine they are allowed to take off their helmet in private, but it hasn't been discussed in detail so who knows. Also there may be some scene later on where somebody takes their helmet off and blows up the whole Don't take off your helmet thing.

I do like this better than the way it has been portrayed in the cartoons because it represents a tradition of honor and reverence to The Way. They went hard core with this so that it's not just characters with cool looking armor who are basically just like everybody else.

On 11/23/2019 at 8:56 AM, Inquisitor Tremayne said:

This looks like a Heavy Magseal Container to me. I liked that they made this prop so I can refer to it. Need Slicers for getting into stuff like this without a cutter.

Regarding helmets, I'm not so sure the series in implying the helmet NEVER comes off. There are so many reasons this is not feasible. What if your helmet needs repaired? The Armorer bends your head over her anvil and wishes you luck? Perhaps it's meant to always be worn under normal circumstances, but of course there are exceptions.

Plus, compare this notion to what we saw in Clone Wars and Rebels. Lots of Mandos taking helmets off even in front of non-Mandos.

Perhaps it is a clan thing? Some clans never remove their helmets, others think it is an archaic tradition and tossed it? Or it developed sometime later and is a much more recent tradition?

1 minute ago, Sturn said:

What if your helmet needs repaired? The Armorer bends your head over her anvil and wishes you luck?

"This won't hurt a bit!" "Are you su- OW!"

2 minutes ago, Sturn said:

Regarding helmets, I'm not so sure the series in implying the helmet NEVER comes off. There are so many reasons this is not feasible. What if your helmet needs repaired? The Armorer bends your head over her anvil and wishes you luck? Perhaps it's meant to always be worn under normal circumstances, but of course there are exceptions.

Plus, compare this notion to what we saw in Clone Wars and Rebels. Lots of Mandos taking helmets off even in front of non-Mandos.

Perhaps it is a clan thing? Some clans never remove their helmets, others think it is an archaic tradition and tossed it? Or it developed sometime later and is a much more recent tradition?

Probably a mix of the above.

3 hours ago, StarkJunior said:

I liked her in Furious 6, where she played a similar sort of "tough" character, so I could see her doing well here if Cara Dune is written that way.

I didn't see Furious 6, but I did enjoy her performance in Haywire. It was a vehicle written specifically to showcase Corano as the leading actress and the writers smartly made use of her strengths. They also surrounded her with a cast of surprisingly well-known and talented supporting actors (Channing Tatum, Michael Douglas, Antonio Banderas, Ewan McGregor, Michael Fassbender, and more). It wasn't the best movie ever made, but it was interesting enough to hold my attention and I thought she did a workmanlike job with it.

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Maybe, it would match up with some of what we see other places, but I don't think there was so much of it that it would be that heavy. There were only 20 of the ingots.

That amount of regular iron would weigh over 100 lbs. It’s the size of at least 8-10 dumbbell plates. He carries in one hand for a long distance.

3 minutes ago, Eoen said:

That amount of regular iron would weigh over 100 lbs. It’s the size of at least 8-10 barbell plates. He carries in one hand for a long distance.

I don't know where you come up with that number. That would put a single slab of the stuff at 5 pounds, and that just doesn't seem to be the case.

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

I don't know where you come up with that number. That would put a single slab of the stuff at 5 pounds, and that just doesn't seem to be the case.

Gym weights are the answer. That square column would weigh more than equivalent stack of iron gym weight plates which are round. And what is 20 x 5lbs?

• In Imperial or US customary measurement system, the density is equal to 491.5 pound per cubic foot [lb/ft³], or 4.551 ounce per cubic inch [oz/inch³] .

5 minutes ago, Sturn said:

Regarding helmets, I'm not so sure the series in implying the helmet NEVER comes off. There are so many reasons this is not feasible. What if your helmet needs repaired? The Armorer bends your head over her anvil and wishes you luck? Perhaps it's meant to always be worn under normal circumstances, but of course there are exceptions.

Plus, compare this notion to what we saw in Clone Wars and Rebels. Lots of Mandos taking helmets off even in front of non-Mandos.

Perhaps it is a clan thing? Some clans never remove their helmets, others think it is an archaic tradition and tossed it? Or it developed sometime later and is a much more recent tradition?

The blacksmith indicated that certain people choose to walk the way of the Mandalore so that makes me think that not all Mandalorians follow this rigid code. The ones that do are the ones shown hidden out on planet and obviously live with stricter rules.

31 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

I don't know where you come up with that number. That would put a single slab of the stuff at 5 pounds, and that just doesn't seem to be the case.

Well, its even more fraught than that because we don't know what the density of Beskar is so we don't know if iron is a good basis of comparison. However, those ingots (just by eyeball guess) looked comparable to 750 gram gold ingots in terms of volume. If Beskar is comparable to iron, Eoen's not too far off.

An iron ingot that size would weigh 5.21 pounds.Carrying that with one arm over a long distance? Possible, but difficult and tiring, and not with the effortless stride and perfect posture he carried it with. But then, its Hollywood!

I doubt the writers actually stopped to ask "what is the molecular density of our magical super metal?" and "will the actor's movements look realistic if we do a plastic 3D print job and spray paint it?" This, in turn, leads to fanboy arguments over whether re-purposed iced cream makers on the Outer Rim have anti-grav or not.

Well interestingly, beskar is now steel and not iron based on everyone calling it steel in the mandalorian.

Maybe because this particular set of Beskar is actually an alloy rather than pure Beskar. In Legends, they added carbon to make it lighter, so maybe this is why they are referring to it as steel?

Steel is an alloy, iron is the basic version.

That would also explain why the Beskar is lighter (because in no way do those slabs seem to weigh 5 pounds based on how they handle them).

3 minutes ago, GroggyGolem said:

Well interestingly, beskar is now steel and not iron based on everyone calling it steel in the mandalorian.

Which makes it an alloy and means we have very little to go on.

7 minutes ago, Vondy said:

Which makes it an alloy and means we have very little to go on.

Going any further than a guesstimate is pointless there are to many unknowns. Mandalorian armour is made out of Beskar steel that does mean the ingots are, the other materials to form the alloy could be added by the blacksmith at the time of forging aka their secret techniques.

52 minutes ago, Sturn said:

Regarding helmets, I'm not so sure the series in implying the helmet NEVER comes off. There are so many reasons this is not feasible. What if your helmet needs repaired? The Armorer bends your head over her anvil and wishes you luck? Perhaps it's meant to always be worn under normal circumstances, but of course there are exceptions.

Plus, compare this notion to what we saw in Clone Wars and Rebels. Lots of Mandos taking helmets off even in front of non-Mandos.

Perhaps it is a clan thing? Some clans never remove their helmets, others think it is an archaic tradition and tossed it? Or it developed sometime later and is a much more recent tradition?

Yeah I don't think this is the case either but an attempt to make sure it is not off under conditions that are unacceptable is what I would imagine is the focus. Also his helmet looks like it is already Beskar so that may have already happened.

As for the cartoons, I think this depiction is much better because it separates the Mandalorians for normal folks who don't care about such rituals.

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Maybe because this particular set of Beskar is actually an alloy rather than pure Beskar. In Legends, they added carbon to make it lighter, so maybe this is why they are referring to it as steel?

Steel is an alloy, iron is the basic version.

That would also explain why the Beskar is lighter (because in no way do those slabs seem to weigh 5 pounds based on how they handle them).

Steel

In Imperial or US customary measurement system, the density is equal to 493.18 pound per cubic foot [lb/ft³], or 4.6 ounce per cubic inch [oz/inch³] .

Iron

In Imperial or US customary measurement system, the density is equal to 491.5 pound per cubic foot [lb/ft³], or 4.551 ounce per cubic inch [oz/inch³]

https://www.aqua-calc.com/page/density-table/substance/steel

Steel items weigh less than equivalent iron objects because you can use less material to do the same job.