Mandalorian - Spoilers inside, don't read until watched

By Varlie, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

So how many more quotes/phrases will this show spawn in this season. It may end up beating Princess Bride.

1. I have spoken

2.

This is the way

I need to know more about these Twi'lek Healing Baths

Oh, seeing that rocket come out of nowhere, and then seeing the Mandalorians descending on Jetpack! Ohh, it gave me chills! First time we've seen a mando battle live action. It was awesome. Would have been little bit better if it was during daylight so that we could see the armor better, but OH, so good!

I absolutely loved how they used the knob on the lever, that was so well done. I'm really glad we got a little bit more Mando-lore :D in this episode, and I'm now pretty convinced that they want to clone baby Yoda. That line about needing to get enough samples (or whatever he said, it was to that effect) makes me fairly certain they want to clone him.

I, for one, like Dr. Pershing. he seems like an interesting character. I want to learn more about him. I thought the altercation with Paz Visla was great, and I really liked the scene with the armorer.

Great episode.
Still prefer the second but man it was great...

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Mando-lore

Oh no you didn’t!

15 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

Oh no you didn’t!

Sorry! I had to. I couldn't very well just say Mandalorian lore without making that joke! :D

Before this show started I thought it might offer up enough new information to form part of a post-ROTJ sourcebook (with other elements like the Aftermath books, Bloodline, etc), but ****, if the amount of new lore and content continues at the pace it has in the first three episodes it will be more than enough to fill up a sourcebook all of its own for just the first season.

Need specs for Whistling Birds!

Great episode, love this series so far.

Okay, rewatched, and noticed a couple things:

Definitely a vibroblade. The knife he used to take down the mudhorn was definitely a vibroknife from what we see in episode 3, though I'm still iffy on him taking it down like that.

Also, did anyone else notice what appeared to be a Gank in the firefight scene?

I've tried to stat Mandalorian vambraces (and accompanying weapons) before, so here's my shot (I'm really shooting from the hip here, though) at the whistling birds:

Ranged (Light); Damage: 4; Crit: 2; Range (Short); Pierce 5, Auto-fire (only), Guided 2, Limited Ammo 1. Unique qualities: Does not increase difficulty to use Auto-fire.

Alternatively, replace Auto-fire and the associated unique quality with Blast, but I don't think that Blast fits what we saw.

With Pierce 5, Damage 4, and Crit 2, it would take a roll of 2 Success, 6 Advantage to take out the 4 Stormtroopers. Seems a bit high, so another option for a unique quality would be to reduce the cost needed to activate Auto-fire to 1 Advantage instead of 2.

The reason I gave it Pierce 5 and Damage 4 is that it seems like it is very good at penetrating/avoiding armor, but it wouldn't necessarily be able to do a ton of damage on its own. This way, it doesn't do damage on par with a blaster rifle unless it has the advantage of being able to ignore armor.

31 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Definitely a vibroblade

How did you come to that conclusion?

1 hour ago, Kualan said:

Before this show started I thought it might offer up enough new information to form part of a post-ROTJ sourcebook (with other elements like the Aftermath books, Bloodline, etc), but ****, if the amount of new lore and content continues at the pace it has in the first three episodes it will be more than enough to fill up a sourcebook all of its own for just the first season.

If I can vote then I want the Complete Guide on Jawas!

When he and Paz Visla were fighting, you can see that both blades are vibrating quite quickly and are making a humming noise. It is much harder to tell in the scene where he is fighting the mudhorn because it is out of focus and could have been a way of showing how badly the Mandalorian was hurt, that he couldn't see straight.

34 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Ranged (Light); Damage: 4; Crit: 2; Range (Short); Pierce 5, Auto-fire (only), Guided 2, Limited Ammo 1. Unique qualities: Does not increase difficulty to use Auto-fire.

Is damage 4 pierce 5 enough to kill a minion group of four?

If you get 2 Success, you deal a total of 6 damage with Pierce 5. That is enough to kill a Stormtrooper. Then you trigger Auto-fire 3 times to take out the other 3 Stormtroopers.

When you trigger Auto-fire or Linked, it deals base damage+net success on all of the hits.

So if Paz Visla is in his local Covert cadre does that mean this is a remnant of the Deathwatch?

I don’t see how they could survive without removing their helmets from time to time, you need to eat, drink, blow their nose, shave, throw up, etc.

The helmet thing can’t be a Mandalorian wide cultural phenomenon, there are plenty of examples other wise.

Edited by Eoen
11 minutes ago, Eoen said:

So if Paz Visla is in his local Covert cadre does that mean this is a remnant of the Deathwatch?

I don’t see how they could survive without removing their helmets from time to time, you need to eat, drink, blow their nose, shave, throw up, etc.

The helmet thing can’t be a Mandalorian wide cultural phenomenon, there are plenty of examples other wise.

I don't think it's Death Watch, necessarily. Notably, I noticed that they spell his name Paz Vizla, NOT Paz Vizsla, and it makes me think if the credits were typo or he isn't related to the House or there are multiple Houses with the different spelling? Hard to say.

The helmet thing might be "never removed in the presence of others" or something. It could be something they only do in private? (Which is the headcanon I've had for years, with my Mando OC.) Or maybe the visors are able to open up without the helmet itself coming off? I'm interested to see if they expand on it.

My current theory is that after the Great Purge, the traditionalist Mandos scattered in a disapora, and now live in tribal structures in different parts of the galaxy, and they might have customs unique to each one.

Edited by StarkJunior
5 minutes ago, StarkJunior said:

The helmet thing might be "never removed in the presence of others" or something.

I think this is definitely the case.

7 minutes ago, StarkJunior said:

The helmet thing might be "never removed in the presence of others" or something. It could be something they only do in private? (Which is the headcanon I've had for years, with my Mando OC.) Or maybe the visors are able to open up without the helmet itself coming off? I'm interested to see if they expand on it.

I've been treating it as them never removing it when conducting business or "in public", but when with other Mandalorians or others who are close to them (like Sabine in Rebels) they will willingly remove them. (Something I've used before. I had an arrogant character refuse to deal with them unless the one speaking removed his helmet)

It could be something peculiar to Mandalorian culture after "The Great Purge" and not something that's existed for long, as it contradicts much of what we see in other Star Wars media (as well as common sense).

2 hours ago, Eoen said:

So if Paz Visla is in his local Covert cadre does that mean this is a remnant of the Deathwatch?

I don’t see how they could survive without removing their helmets from time to time, you need to eat, drink, blow their nose, shave, throw up, etc.

The helmet thing can’t be a Mandalorian wide cultural phenomenon, there are plenty of examples other wise.

I don't think Death Watch is still around. They were a terrorist splinter group opposing Duchess Satine. Some members may have survived (and Katee Sackoff is very enthousiastic about something Lucasfilm-related she's not allowed to talk about), but there is no reason to assume the organisation still exists.

I think that the helmet thing probably always was a Mando custom, it's just that they've become a lot more orthodox about it now that they've been exiled from Mandalore and nearly purged by the Empire.

Edited by micheldebruyn

When Paz mentioned Mandalore being "shattered" do you think he meant it literally, or figuratively? I would guess figuratively, but I was wondering what others thought. It isn't a time period that has really been covered, though I would guess that they would add another planet to the Empire's kill tally since it isn't something that would have gone unnoticed.

My biggest (and pretty much only) disappointment with the series is that so far, we haven't once heard anyone speak in Mando'a. Even when Paz called The Mandalorian a coward, he didn't use Mando'a. Since they subtitled the trawler and the Jawas, they could at least have had Paz yell "Hut'uun!" instead of just saying coward. It's a very nerdy quibble, but it is still disappointing.

3 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Okay, rewatched, and noticed a couple things:

Definitely a vibroblade. The knife he used to take down the mudhorn was definitely a vibroknife from what we see in episode 3, though I'm still iffy on him taking it down like that.

Also, did anyone else notice what appeared to be a Gank in the firefight scene?

I've tried to stat Mandalorian vambraces (and accompanying weapons) before, so here's my shot (I'm really shooting from the hip here, though) at the whistling birds:

Ranged (Light); Damage: 4; Crit: 2; Range (Short); Pierce 5, Auto-fire (only), Guided 2, Limited Ammo 1. Unique qualities: Does not increase difficulty to use Auto-fire.

Alternatively, replace Auto-fire and the associated unique quality with Blast, but I don't think that Blast fits what we saw.

With Pierce 5, Damage 4, and Crit 2, it would take a roll of 2 Success, 6 Advantage to take out the 4 Stormtroopers. Seems a bit high, so another option for a unique quality would be to reduce the cost needed to activate Auto-fire to 1 Advantage instead of 2.

The reason I gave it Pierce 5 and Damage 4 is that it seems like it is very good at penetrating/avoiding armor, but it wouldn't necessarily be able to do a ton of damage on its own. This way, it doesn't do damage on par with a blaster rifle unless it has the advantage of being able to ignore armor.

As for taking down a Mudhorn with a knife. A vibro knife has a Pierce quality and Vicious 2, correct? Combine Vicious 2 with a few ranks of the talent that adds 10% to crit rolls (can’t recall the name), and then roll a couple of Triumphs (each one over the first adds 10% to a crit roll).... and you can get an insta-kill crit.

That’s one of the things I love about the narrative dice system. You don’t have to wear down the 400hp beast with dozens of cuts... just a single cinematic moment that brings it down !

Can we just talk about a Mando flying around with a dual barrel repeating blaster with the power pack INSIDE the jetpack? I smell a new NPC concept in my future games.

Also, for as cheesy as Star Wars has been with certain tropes in the past, I was surprised when Carl Weathers survived because of Chekhov's Beskar. Wonder if that is going to bite our protagonist in the exhaust port later on?

Side note, I'm not a touchy feely person normally, but my heart melted when he gave the lever knob to our Yodaling.

Edited by GameboyAK
3 minutes ago, GameboyAK said:

Side note, I'm not a touchy feely person normally, but my heart melted when he gave the lever knob to our Yodaling.

Same here...

His jetpack looked bulkier, so it could be that it was more than just a jetpack and was some sort of combination of the two.

His LRB looked a lot like the one the stormtrooper is holding on page 143 of the AoR CRB. Does anyone know what that weapon is?

1 minute ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

His jetpack looked bulkier, so it could be that it was more than just a jetpack and was some sort of combination of the two.

I certainly agree, but I wonder how that affects the stats of both weapons. I'm sure it allows the LRB to not run out of ammo, but when disconnected does it have limited ammo? Does the jetpack have increased speed but less HT or SS to work with? After all, it did manage to catch up to the Razor Crest. Probably no hardpoints left on it either except for a small one.

3 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

His LRB looked a lot like the one the stormtrooper is holding on page 143 of the AoR CRB. Does anyone know what that weapon is?

I do not have the book in front of me, but I'm guessing it's (for the moment) a no name blaster that's been seen before, but I'll be checking within the next two hours to be sure