Being new to Epic, I am not sure how to build an Epic fleet around a Scum C-ROC. The best model I can think of is basing this fleet on a World War II Task Force. Typically a task force consisted of a carrier (C-ROC or similar ship), a cruiser (Firespray or other median-based ship), destroyer squadron (four Z-95s or similar ships), and other warships as needed, such as submarines (two Starvipers).
The question is this a good way to build an Epic fleet?
No idea. I do know that one T-65 X-Wing, Modified YT 1300, and A/SF-01 B Wing can hold their own against a CR-90. I almost won too. But I have zero experience flying with or against Scum. I've been facing Galactic Empire mainly.
In 1.0 epic, as a general rule, you wanted as many cheap guns with lots of red dice as possible. Scyks with Heavy Laser Cannons and Khiraxz are probably going to be good. Y-Wings with torpedoes should also shine.
I also liked to have a pair of super fast maneuverable ships -Tie Interceptors or AWings - whose sole job was to fly right past everything and then get on the tail of the enemy Capital ship where its guns could not target me. I could just plink it to death or be a great distraction.
With lots of ships on the table getting the midrange generics (IN3-4) over the basic is generaly a good trade. Having a whole wing shooting before the enemy is a great idea.
Also the "small" capital ships (gozanti, gr75, croc) engage at IN1, while the "large" (CR90, Raider) do so at IN1, so even a lowli Academy pilot would get a retaliation shot if destroyed by a huge ship.
I'm building with 3 objectives in mid:
How do I deal with another capital ships?
How do I deal with the escort (fighter killers) ?
How do I deal with bombers (capital ship killers)?
On 11/9/2019 at 10:06 AM, Cav Scout said:The question is this a good way to build an Epic fleet?
That is a good question and an important one!
On 11/9/2019 at 11:01 AM, pickirk01 said:In 1.0 epic, as a general rule, you wanted as many cheap guns with lots of red dice as possible. Scyks with Heavy Laser Cannons and Khiraxz are probably going to be good. Y-Wings with torpedoes should also shine.
This is all still good. Lots of red dice is a good thing. Lots of ships on the table is a good thing. What works for Scum in Huge games might not be what traditionally works for Scum in regular games. You might not have the number of ships you want/need....unless you are a crazy fool like me! Even I don't have all the ones I want, though.
3 hours ago, DerRitter said:I'm building with 3 objectives in mid:
How do I deal with another capital ships?
How do I deal with the escort (fighter killers) ?
How do I deal with bombers (capital ship killers)?
These are important questions to ask and keep in mind! You need to think of how you are going to deal with a lot of different aspects. The C-ROC (yo yo) is on the weaker end of the huge ships. You can't expect to go toe to toe with the Raider or CR-90. You might be able to if you have two of them, but that's a lot of credits to put into it.
Small based ships are going to be the strength of the list, in my opinion. Y-wings with ordnance are good for facing against the enemy Huge ships, but they can be a bit fragile as a bomber and need to be protected. Kihraxz are fantastic ships to use in bulk. They are quite cheap, have lots of dice, and a pretty good dial. Bulk Z-95's are pretty good for Scum as a way to deal with enemy Wings and/or enemy Huge ships. Cheap ships to throw out lots of fire at what needs to go away. Maybe even get in the way to block the enemy Wings on way to their target.
I do worry about the Medium and Large based ships. I think the Medium are fine and the Kimogila will do well with the Bullseye arc. The rest of them....they might be too expensive and too vulnerable. Capital ships might be able to hit them too easily and enemy Wings can concentrate fire on them. If they are cheap enough, they can be good distractions. Agility 2 and 3 is better than 1. Firespray that aren't too expensive are probably good, too. I am looking at Krassis with hlc or even Cluster Missiles. Don't load these things up too much or they will just die though.