Just wondering if anyone has used mixed race characters like t wi'leks and humans? I was thinking of playing a mixed character. Just wondering how others handled it.
Just wondering if anyone has used mixed race characters
Just pick one of the two species' profiles, I'd say. The rest is narrative flavouring. No need for a mechanical difference.
I thought that SW species could not interbreed.... only in that OTHER huge sci fi franchise
1 minute ago, ExpandingUniverse said:I thought that SW species could not interbreed.... only in that OTHER huge sci fi franchise
As far as the current canon goes, the only two species that can freely interbreed are Twi'leks with Humans (Kanan and Hera's son at the end of Rebels, and supposedly a group of Clone/Twi'lek hybrid kids in TCW) and Theelins (in the form of Rystall Sant in canon and I think a few others in Legends). I guess Sith Purebloods also count, seeing as how they're the result of the original Sith race and the dark sider outcasts from a Jedi schism getting their respective freak on, but they're almost to the point of being their own species, though I supposed it's possible they could interbreed with humans to produce non-sterile offspring.
6 minutes ago, ExpandingUniverse said:I thought that SW species could not interbreed.... only in that OTHER huge sci fi franchise
There's a clone wars episode where a rogue clone turn farmer was married to a twi'lek and if I recall correctly the children looked fairly close to twi'lek with splotched color, splotches where caucasian/clone skin color which suggests interbreeding between the clone and twi'lek, the children were probably sterile though unless they were purebred twi'lek with a skin condition
12 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:As far as the current canon goes, the only two species that can freely interbreed are Twi'leks with Humans (Kanan and Hera's son at the end of Rebels, and supposedly a group of Clone/Twi'lek hybrid kids in TCW) and Theelins (in the form of Rystall Sant in canon and I think a few others in Legends). I guess Sith Purebloods also count, seeing as how they're the result of the original Sith race and the dark sider outcasts from a Jedi schism getting their respective freak on, but they're almost to the point of being their own species, though I supposed it's possible they could interbreed with humans to produce non-sterile offspring.
Zabraks and Dathomirians seem to be able to interbreed as well. Although it seems like it turns into a Zabrak if it's a boy and a Dathomirian if it's a girl.
25 minutes ago, Darth Revenant said:Zabraks and Dathomirians seem to be able to interbreed as well. Although it seems like it turns into a Zabrak if it's a boy and a Dathomirian if it's a girl.
So...would you call their children.....Dathroki?
40 minutes ago, EliasWindrider said:There's a clone wars episode where a rogue clone turn farmer was married to a twi'lek and if I recall correctly the children looked fairly close to twi'lek with splotched color, splotches where caucasian/clone skin color which suggests interbreeding between the clone and twi'lek, the children were probably sterile though unless they were purebred twi'lek with a skin condition
No, the kids are too old for him to be their father. It was only a year or two into the war at that point. That said, in the Wookieepedia article it says that they are intended to be Human-Twi'lek hybrids, but are not Cut's children.
2 hours ago, EliasWindrider said:There's a clone wars episode where a rogue clone turn farmer was married to a twi'lek and if I recall correctly the children looked fairly close to twi'lek with splotched color, splotches where caucasian/clone skin color which suggests interbreeding between the clone and twi'lek, the children were probably sterile though unless they were purebred twi'lek with a skin condition
There is no evidence to suggest children of clones would be sterile. Children in that specific episode aside, fiction generally doesn't bother with that level of science, because it's not very interesting, and people like to think of family lines being a kind of "happy ending" for a character who might have had a bad life. If the clones are fertile (again, the twi'lek kids in that CW episode aside), odds are any children of theirs would be too. Or at least as likely as not. And with "narrative biology" being paramount in storytelling, you can be certain any child of any parentage, no matter how weird, will likely be fertile. Sterility and infertility are just not a very common, or popular plot thread in storytelling, especially not in a family friendly, kid oriented thing like Star Wars.
2 hours ago, KungFuFerret said:There is no evidence to suggest children of clones would be sterile. Children in that specific episode aside, fiction generally doesn't bother with that level of science, because it's not very interesting, and people like to think of family lines being a kind of "happy ending" for a character who might have had a bad life. If the clones are fertile (again, the twi'lek kids in that CW episode aside), odds are any children of theirs would be too. Or at least as likely as not. And with "narrative biology" being paramount in storytelling, you can be certain any child of any parentage, no matter how weird, will likely be fertile. Sterility and infertility are just not a very common, or popular plot thread in storytelling, especially not in a family friendly, kid oriented thing like Star Wars.
My hypothesis had nothing to do with the guy being a clone, it was based on interspecies breeding...Horses and donkeys can mate to produce mules which are sterile. That was the thought process/reasoning.
1 hour ago, EliasWindrider said:My hypothesis had nothing to do with the guy being a clone, it was based on interspecies breeding...Horses and donkeys can mate to produce mules which are sterile. That was the thought process/reasoning.
Yes I know the reasoning you were going for, but my point is that there just isn't anything in the franchise to support that. Namely because 1) Star Wars has never given a crap about being scientifically accurate with..well anything. and 2) Sterility just isn't something that comes up in storytelling. And it's space aliens with super science in a galaxy with magic energy fields and all kinds of weird crap. For all we know, twi'leks have an incredibly malleable genome, and can interbreed with just about anyone, similar to dogs or the asari from mass effect. Because of their frequent place as slaves on diverse ecosystems, perhaps they evolved to adapt to boink anything and be able to breed.
Who knows either way. But given that stories just don't bother with sterility, I'd say odds are good, that they are perfectly capable of breeding if that story point ever comes up later.
Dathomirians are a cross between Zabrak and Human. Males look like Zabrak and females look like humans.
21 hours ago, tank0625 said:Just wondering if anyone has used mixed race characters like t wi'leks and humans? I was thinking of playing a mixed character. Just wondering how others handled it.
OP, do you mean mixed-species?
"Mixed-race", at least in American English (being aware that American English is not the first language of a lot of people on these boards) has some pretty strong, pretty different connotations .
And if so, is there a need to handle it in some way other than, "Me and my GM think it's cool so we're doing it; the end"?
1 hour ago, BrickSteelhead said:OP, do you mean mixed-species?
"Mixed-race", at least in American English (being aware that American English is not the first language of a lot of people on these boards) has some pretty strong, pretty different connotations .
For a very, very long time, species in RPGs have been referred to as race. Going all the way back to the first game with elves, dwarves, etc being referred to as separate races rather than separate species. Don't read into it, that's a rabbit hole of modern design.
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7 minutes ago, ExpandingUniverse said:wookie and ewok... ewokie? wookiewok?.. or ewwwwwwe
No. Just no.
I'm looking to see if anyone had used a mixed race character. How did you and the GM handled it and is there any suggestions you have?
The different ways of interbreeding I was looking at are
Naturally occurring like when Hera Syndulla and Kanan Jarrus had a son named Jacen Syndulla from Rebels.
Next would be a force connection making it happen for some unknown reason. Most likely a force based character.
Lastly, the Empire or slave trader cross breeding for some evil plan.
According to Aftermath: Life Debt, Wookiees and Talz can produce offspring. In addition, one of the short stories from Tales from a Galaxy Far, Far Away features a Quarren/Mon Calamari hybrid.
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who wouldn't want to play a Toghutta character?
16 minutes ago, Varlie said:who wouldn't want to play a Toghutta character?
Nooooooooo
26 minutes ago, Varlie said:who wouldn't want to play a Toghutta character?
That is 100% completely, totally, absolutely, utterly, brilliantly WRONG on sooooooo many levels.
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2 hours ago, A7T said:According to Aftermath: Life Debt, Wookiees and Talz can produce offspring. In addition, one of the short stories from Tales from a Galaxy Far, Far Away features a Quarren/Mon Calamari hybrid.
At least quarren and mon cal are from the same planet and would have a common genetic ancestor if you went back far enough (e.g. like how the Neanderthals, denisovans, and plain old anatomically modern humans got their freak on). I guess star wars is going for convergent/guided evolution (where the force was doing the guiding presumably)
Edited by EliasWindrider3 hours ago, tank0625 said:I'm looking to see if anyone had used a mixed race character. How did you and the GM handled it and is there any suggestions you have?
The different ways of interbreeding I was looking at are
Naturally occurring like when Hera Syndulla and Kanan Jarrus had a son named Jacen Syndulla from Rebels.
Next would be a force connection making it happen for some unknown reason. Most likely a force based character.
Lastly, the Empire or slave trader cross breeding for some evil plan.
Mechanically, I don't think anyone's really tried that, mostly as such a thing has a nasty habit of leading to power-gaming by cherry-picking traits of the two species/races to get some sort of uber-hybrid.
Truthfully, with regards to game mechanics, you're best bet is to pick which species the child takes after the most, and then perhaps consult with your GM to see if you can pick a minor species ability from the other parent's species. So in something like Jacen Syndulla's case, he'd be a Human, but spent 5 of his starting XP to get the Twi'lek ability to remove setback dice in hot/arid environments, and maybe spending one of his Human bonus non-career skill ranks to pick up a rank in either Charm or Deception.
Also, for the most part as someone else noted, Star Wars generally steered clear of cross-species interbreeding, and it's really only been under the new canon that such a thing as become more common.
On 11/9/2019 at 9:17 AM, Ahrimon said:For a very, very long time, species in RPGs have been referred to as race. Going all the way back to the first game with elves, dwarves, etc being referred to as separate races rather than separate species. Don't read into it, that's a rabbit hole of modern design.
For a very, very long time, people have said a lot of casually ignorant things that held them back from making progress and, in some cases, normalized some pretty harmful attitudes and behaviors.
If you're not so hip to reading into things and have something inherently against modernization of game design, I cannot for the life of me understand what you're doing playing this particular game (I mean, EotE itself uses the word "species"), but I'm glad to have a hobby with folks who have a different perspective from mine. It sure is baffling, however.
OP, still curious as to what you're hoping for. If you have a cool idea, why _not_ make a mixed-species character? Or are you asking for ways to make the most of this sort of twist?
2 hours ago, BrickSteelhead said:For a very, very long time, people have said a lot of casually ignorant things that held them back from making progress and, in some cases, normalized some pretty harmful attitudes and behaviors.
If you're not so hip to reading into things and have something inherently against modernization of game design, I cannot for the life of me understand what you're doing playing this particular game (I mean, EotE itself uses the word "species"), but I'm glad to have a hobby with folks who have a different perspective from mine. It sure is baffling, however.
OP, still curious as to what you're hoping for. If you have a cool idea, why _not_ make a mixed-species character? Or are you asking for ways to make the most of this sort of twist?
What I'm hoping for is pretty straightforward. I want to find out if anyone else has used a mixed-species character. How they handled the stats for them. I have some ideas for background for creation.