Epic Base Problems?

By Captain Mayhem, in X-Wing

18 hours ago, ndogg229 said:

I'm super sad about this. Neither my 1.0 Gozanti or CR90 fit the 2.0 epic bases...

My Gozanti fit fine. I only tried one of the base-sets, so the other may not work as well.

I assume there were a few batches of these sets produced, and they may differe slightly, by whether you got an early version, or one that was tweaked after they had shipped (or something.)

I've got the same problem. The cardboard almost fits but by the time you push the bases down so your ships will be stable the struts have moved inwards a few mil. This means you can't get your ships sat squarely on the bases...

Edited by cr0nin

I am just wondering if anybody who purchased the 2.0 CR-90 or C-Roc have these problems or are these parts fitted right in their respective expansions?

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My CR-90 fits on the base just fine. I'm having to buy some superglue though since the peg the front strut slots into wasn't glued on well, and came off after being loose for a few matches. But the cardboard base plate fits just fine.

4 hours ago, Captain Mayhem said:

I am just wondering if anybody who purchased the 2.0 CR-90 or Gozanti have these problems or are these parts fitted right in their respective expansions?

No problem on my CR90.

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On 11/14/2019 at 5:48 PM, cr0nin said:

I've got the same problem. The cardboard almost fits but by the time you push the bases down so your ships will be stable the struts have moved inwards a few mil. This means you can't get your ships sat squarely on the bases...

I have just opened my conversion kit and tried my ships on the new bases.

I don't understand why people have an issue with them? Maybe there are differences in the kits?

Yes, the holes in the base tokens aren't *exactly, perfect* - I put a turret indicator on, then each peg. The second one slid on at an angle, but didn't damage the cardboard. This angle put the peg slightly slanted, but only a fraction, and it eased over very nicely to go in the hole on each ship. Tried both sizes of ship too.

End result was far superior to the 1st ed bases and pegs! Stable, steady, easy to pick up the whole ship and base by any part of it without any sign of it wobbling or falling apart.

Big thumbs up from me!

(Anyone remember that C-ROCs originally needed replacement pegs and bases because they didn't fit together properly and jumped out all the time?)

My conversion kit also just arrived. And the 2nd thing I did was to test the base. There's a trick, you see. The pegs will only go in if facing the correct direction due to the shape of the connectors. I'm beginning to suspect that people are damaging the cardboard more due to them trying to force the pegs in the wrong way, and not because things aren't lining up properly. Mind you, there could be an issue with the holes not lining up too. But one would think that this would be a 100% saturation problem if true. And it looks like the cardboard getting damaged is not a universal issue.

EDIT: First thing I did was punch out the correct CR-90 dial and put that in my dial upgrade base.

EDIT 2: Yeah, got everything all set up. Then decided to remove the base to check the cardboard. I am not removing the pegs from the ship it's self though. No damage to the cardboard at all.

Edited by Faerie1979

A question for those who's Huge ship bases and cardboard base plates aren't lining up... Did you check to make sure that the arrow on the plastic base is "forward" when you put the base plate on? Because when I just tried putting a base plate on backwards, it didn't fit.

2 hours ago, Faerie1979 said:

A question for those who's Huge ship bases and cardboard base plates aren't lining up... Did you check to make sure that the arrow on the plastic base is "forward" when you put the base plate on? Because when I just tried putting a base plate on backwards, it didn't fit.

Doesn't the base only "work" one way? As in, the movement tool only hooks into the base properly if it's facing the right way. I would think that's hard to miss.

Just tried all of mine today. Had to file three of five - cr90, Raider, and Gozanti.

Should be good to go for epic play now.

On 11/16/2019 at 3:10 PM, Faerie1979 said:

My conversion kit also just arrived. And the 2nd thing I did was to test the base. There's a trick, you see. The pegs will only go in if facing the correct direction due to the shape of the connectors. I'm beginning to suspect that people are damaging the cardboard more due to them trying to force the pegs in the wrong way, and not because things aren't lining up properly. Mind you, there could be an issue with the holes not lining up too. But one would think that this would be a 100% saturation problem if true. And it looks like the cardboard getting damaged is not a universal issue.

EDIT: First thing I did was punch out the correct CR-90 dial and put that in my dial upgrade base.

EDIT 2: Yeah, got everything all set up. Then decided to remove the base to check the cardboard. I am not removing the pegs from the ship it's self though. No damage to the cardboard at all.

I’ve seen you making these arguments all over the boards, by your logic all cardboard templates and range rulers are exactly the same length? Right, I mean right, that’s never happened before. Anyone who’s played more than five games with differing opponents knows there is variation in every cardboard piece (especially range rulers). Any type of manufacturing also has variance in product due to materials, wear of tooling,etc. maybe instead of belittling those who have received goods that aren’t right you should maybe spend more time being grateful yours weren’t affected.

Maybe instead of blindly saying "everyone is having/will have this problem" people should instead realize they might be the aberration. I keep getting accused of lying or being delusional when I point out that no, "the base plate doesn't fit" isn't a universal issue. Others have also come forward and said they aren't having issues. I've compared so far with 3 different bases and 5 different base plates in various combinations. The only time things don't line up perfectly is if the base plate is on facing the wrong way.

I'm not suggesting nobody has issues. I'm just suggesting that it's not a universal problem. May not even be a particularly common problem. Those of us posting on this forum are a small minority of the players after all.

8 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

Had to file three of five - cr90, Raider, and Gozanti.

By that, you mean you had to widen the peg holes in the base tokens?

Yes I had the pegs on the right way. I put the ship on it after all. Couldn't have done that if I had them on in reverse.

Doesn't change the fact that the cardboard was damaged and the the peg had to be slightly forced in to fit.

My major bone of contention was not the cardboard, but the pegs themselves. I have one each of every 1.0 huge ships. Of the four pegs, not one gave a decent fit in my ships. The only exception was the stern receiver on the Gozanti. The old pegs fit in all of them with no issue. In fact I had all 5 on their 1.0 bases on my dresser waiting for the conversion. They got a little dusty, but no problems. I cant' say the same with the new pegs. Maybe I just got a bad batch; but it's weird that almost all of them are loose in their sockets.

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5 hours ago, Hatemonger said:

By that, you mean you had to widen the peg holes in the base tokens?

Yes, sorry. They weren’t centered correctly for the pegs to fit.

I haven’t tried putting a huge ship up on the pegs yet to know how well they fit on that end, I was just doing bases because I saw the chatter here. Sure enough, three of my bases in my kit needed the alteration to fit.

16 hours ago, Faerie1979 said:

I'm not suggesting nobody has issues.

You might not intend to, but actually you very much are giving the impression that you doubt everyone that reports issues and assume user error or exaggeration. If yours are fine then congrats and good for you. I haven't tried all mine yet, but the very first baseplate I put on one of my conversion kit bases occluded part of the front peg mount as its holes were too close. Squeezing both pegs in at once either bent the two pegs inwards to make mounting a ship difficult, or pulling them straight made the baseplate bend such that the middle lifted off the base and the whole thing creaked ominously. I was using only the components from the kit, no 1.0 bits, and the base, baseplate, and pegs were all oriented correctly. Personally the fact that I can see that filing or shaving the cardboard will fix the issue prevents me from being too upset, and even though one of my plastic bases (not the one I tested) has a warped peg mount sticking out of the bottom, FFG/Asmodee have agreed to replace it so I'm sanguine about my purchase and still looking forward to playing with it. But your attitude towards people suffering a disappointment with a product they paid for and were looking forward to is rather off-putting.

On 11/16/2019 at 8:24 PM, Gilarius said:

I don't understand why people have an issue with them? Maybe there are differences in the kits?

I think this is exactly the issue.

It could even be an issue in the same batch. When the printing run starts everything lines up but as the run progresses the cardboard starts to get out of sync by a fraction of a millimetre with every new board. Prints at the end of the run will be different to prints at the start of the run.

I’m due to get a new kit for Christmas so I’ll be able to compare and contrast two kits side by side…

I have two Conversion kits. One fits fine, the other has the problem of pegs and bases not fitting the ships. Very annoying, already filed a complaint with FFG.

On 11/16/2019 at 9:24 PM, Gilarius said:

(Anyone remember that C-ROCs originally needed replacement pegs and bases because they didn't fit together properly and jumped out all the time?)

That' s funny, because

On 11/16/2019 at 9:24 PM, Gilarius said:

I don't understand why people have an issue with them? Maybe there are differences in the kits?

my original C-Roc (1st ed bought early, as soon as it was out then) is the one of all my original 1st ed Huges which sits most secure and tight on its pegs. So tight that you have to be careful when pulling the the C-Roc from its stands.

So it wouldn' t surprise me at all if the conversion packs vary as well.

FFG delivered far too few conversion packs to Northern Europe, so still have not got one in hand :(