In a match at my LGS this situation occurred. I used Dengar Gunner's ability to counter attack my opponent. My die came up Focus and I still had a focus. My opponent told me I could not spend the focus to change the die to a Hit. I just looked through the Rules Reference and did not see anything about it. The card says on a Hit or Critical Hit the opponent suffers one damage but says nothing about not modifying dice. Can a Focus result in this attack be changed?
Dengar Gunner and Focus
44 minutes ago, Cav Scout said:In a match at my LGS this situation occurred. I used Dengar Gunner's ability to counter attack my opponent. My die came up Focus and I still had a focus. My opponent told me I could not spend the focus to change the die to a Hit. I just looked through the Rules Reference and did not see anything about it. The card says on a Hit or Critical Hit the opponent suffers one damage but says nothing about not modifying dice. Can a Focus result in this attack be changed?
Your opponent was correct. Focus can only be spent in that manner during the Modify Attack/Defense Dice step of Attacking/Defending; you were not Attacking/Defending.
Edited by Innese
@Cav Scout : Basically, what the Dengar card is doing is using an existing game piece (the attack die) to create a 50/50 flip of a coin. FFG could have said flip a quarter... Same as determining initiative order.
Dengar will always be just a 50 percent chance of triggering.
Edited by JBFancourt5 hours ago, JBFancourt said:@Cav Scout : Basically, what the Dengar card is doing is using an existing game piece (the attack die) to create a 50/50 flip of a coin. FFG could have said flip a quarter... Same as determining initiative order.
Dengar will always be just a 50 percent chance of triggering.
This ^ rolling an attack die does not automatically make any given effect an attack. For something to be considered an attack it must have the Attack: header. Only attacks and the corresponding defense have a Dice Modification Step . No other type of die roll has a built in step for applying dice mods which is why abilities that are meant to affect rolls besides attack/defense (like Han Rebel pilot ) always say something like "after you roll dice..."( Lando scum crew ) or "before you roll defense dice..."( C-3PO rebel crew )
6 hours ago, nitrobenz said:This ^ rolling an attack die does not automatically make any given effect an attack. For something to be considered an attack it must have the Attack: header. Only attacks and the corresponding defense have a Dice Modification Step . No other type of die roll has a built in step for applying dice mods which is why abilities that are meant to affect rolls besides attack/defense (like Han Rebel pilot ) always say something like "after you roll dice..."( Lando scum crew ) or "before you roll defense dice..."( C-3PO rebel crew )
To add, an attack involves following the process of an Attack (outlined on RR pg 4) that includes measuring range, choosing a weapon, rolling attack dice, defender rolling defense dice, ect, ect, ect..
Dengar (Gunner) does not do this (as others have said).
9 hours ago, Lyianx said:To add, an attack involves following the process of an Attack (outlined on RR pg 4) that includes measuring range, choosing a weapon, rolling attack dice, defender rolling defense dice, ect, ect, ect..
Dengar (Gunner) does not do this (as others have said).
And to add as well, if I understand it correctly, this also means that Dengar (Gunner) is not a bonus attack (unlike the Dengar (Pilot) ability).
Edited by Nspace37 minutes ago, Nspace said:And to add as well, if I understand it correctly, this also means that Dengar (Gunner) is not a bonus attack (unlike the Dengar (Pilot) ability).
Correct. Dengar Gunner is not a bonus attack.