Help request - GM in need of ideas

By PzVIE, in Game Masters

1 minute ago, Tramp Graphics said:

For the first question that's easy, a sphincter . It's a common muscle in a digestive tract.

As for why Han would know that he didn't need a space suit, that too is relatively easy. The Falcon's sensors told him that it had an atmosphere, just one that wasn't breathable to humans. Any pilot would check his ship's sensors before debarking in order to know if it was safe to go outside or not. That's standard procedure .

Again, how is a hole that you can fly a spaceship through keeping in atmosphere and pressure? The Falcon's crew didn't notice and sphincter. They were concinced they were in a natural cave.

He migh have checked, but we don't know that he did. But if he would have checked, he would have noticed all that pressure and atmosphere that's not supposed to be there, and immediately would have taken off again, or not even have landed at all. Or at the very least would have found it odd and remarked upon it.

Just now, micheldebruyn said:

Again, how is a hole that you can fly a spaceship through keeping in atmosphere and pressure? The Falcon's crew didn't notice and sphincter. They were concinced they were in a natural cave.

He migh have checked, but we don't know that he did. But if he would have checked, he would have noticed all that pressure and atmosphere that's not supposed to be there, and immediately would have taken off again, or not even have landed at all. Or at the very least would have found it odd and remarked upon it.

Simple, Sphincters ope and close . That's what keeps an atmosphere inside. Also, they were relatively deep inside the exogorth. And it is large enough to basically maintain its own internal gravity. It was also on a relatively large planetoid/asteroid , certainly large and dense enough to have a noticeable gravity . Remember, they were walking around as if it was 1 full G of gravity. Combine that with an internal body within a larger cave system, and that's all you need to maintain a pressurized atmosphere inside the exogorth.

14 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Simple, Sphincters ope and close . That's what keeps an atmosphere inside. Also, they were relatively deep inside the exogorth. And it is large enough to basically maintain its own internal gravity. It was also on a relatively large planetoid/asteroid , certainly large and dense enough to have a noticeable gravity . Remember, they were walking around as if it was 1 full G of gravity. Combine that with an internal body within a larger cave system, and that's all you need to maintain a pressurized atmosphere inside the exogorth.

I don't think you even remotely understand how any of this works, or what airlocks are for. 1 full G of gravity means it's a literally magically reality-warping slug.

1 hour ago, Tramp Graphics said:

For the first question that's easy, a sphincter . It's a common muscle in a digestive tract.

When the Falcon takes off, it yaws a bit to the side and they can then immediately see a straight shot all the way to the closing teeth. No sphincter in sight, just a very wide and tunnel-like body.

1 hour ago, Tramp Graphics said:

The Falcon's sensors told him that it had an atmosphere, just one that wasn't breathable to humans.

You'd think they'd have also told him that he was inside a giant slug; but given the state the Falcon was in at the time, I guess I can let that one slide.

35 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

1 full G of gravity means it's a literally magically reality-warping slug.

Which fits quite well in a setting with Lightsaber wielding Space-Wizards and the official way the Kessel Run looks like.

3 minutes ago, Malashim said:

Which fits quite well in a setting with Lightsaber wielding Space-Wizards and the official way the Kessel Run looks like.

Kind if, but this is more the Star Trek kind of space magic, where awful technobabble is used to explain why clearly magical events aren't magical.

53 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

I don't think you even remotely understand how any of this works, or what airlocks are for. 1 full G of gravity means it's a literally magically reality-warping slug.

17 minutes ago, Vorzakk said:

When the Falcon takes off, it yaws a bit to the side and they can then immediately see a straight shot all the way to the closing teeth. No sphincter in sight, just a very wide and tunnel-like body.

You'd think they'd have also told him that he was inside a giant slug; but given the state the Falcon was in at the time, I guess I can let that one slide.

A sphincter is simply a group of muscles within a wall that open and close. Our own esophagus has such a sphincter as well in order to keep food and digestive acids down, and when it's fully open, its just as if it were a wide tunnel , just like the exogorth showed. This means, that at the time the Falcon flew out, its esophageal sphincter was fully open . Problem solved.

15 minutes ago, Malashim said:

Which fits quite well in a setting with Lightsaber wielding Space-Wizards and the official way the Kessel Run looks like.

Pretty much.

3 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

A sphincter is simply a group of muscles within a wall that open and close. Our own esophagus has such a sphincter as well in order to keep food and digestive acids down, and when it's fully open, its just as if it were a wide tunnel , just like the exogorth showed. This means, that at the time the Falcon flew out, its esophageal sphincter was fully open . Problem solved.

Pretty much.

Again, if the esophageal sphincter is fully open, what is keeping the air inside? And why is it even open when the thing is trying to keep its food down?

Edited by micheldebruyn
26 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

Again, if the esophageal sphincter is fully open, what is keeping the air inside? And why is it even open when the thing is trying to keep its food down?

Gravity . Secondly, who's to say that the sphincter was open when Han and the others were walking around outside the Falcon? Most likely, it was closed at the time, and, given that gasses are probably constantly being produced by the exogorth through its digestive processes , they would constantly be replenished even if some was venting out into space. As for why it would be open when the Falcon flew out? The thing had just been shot in the esophagus from the inside. Ever heard of a gag/vomit reflex ? That would automatically open the sphincter in order to get rid of the offending object.

Just want to note, OP asks about help for an adventure, thread devolves in an argument about Exogorths having a sphincter xD

As for actual suggestions to the adventure , I like to toss the unexpected to my players in these scenarios, but usually for my Halloween sessions. Last years was Gen. Grievous basically solo slaughtering a Venator crew and then hunting the party when they come to invesitagate, and this year was basically a reinterpretation of the RAS Prosecutor from Republic Commando with Trandoshan slavers. My first year, however, what I threw at them was a Starweird. I can guarantee, if they've never heard of it, they will thoroughly be terrified at this thing regenerating right before their eyes in the vacuum of space.


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https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Starweird

But you could always have them accidentally detonate a compliment of discord missiles, and the buzz droids inside start to chase the party back to their own ship. Low threat on their own but a swarm is deadly to attack their EVA suits.

Alright, the session was yesterday. For those interested, here's how it played out:

They entered that no-name star system (because of a treasure hunt) and found the old CIS frigate; scanners showed no life and no energy. The engine section was destroyed from an explosion and the port side was destroyed by heavy turbolaser fire. It laid adrift here for 20 years after they fled a battlefield during the Clone Wars and while in hyperspace, the engines exploded and the ship was thrown out of hyperspace into that uninhabited star system, where the few life forms on board froze to death and the droids deactivated because they ran out of energy.

My group docked their ship onto the frigate and began to explore it ... no gravity, no energy, inactive floating B1 battledroids ... I tried to describe scenes a little creepy (which hopefully worked out). Despite a 20 year old atmosphere, they put their space suits on. Without energy the turbolifts didn't work, but they found the maintenance duct and made it to the bridge, where they activated an alarm sensor which in turn activated a couple of B1s and a T-series tactical droid in the command chair, which were all turned off for the last 20 years. We had a small firefight in which one of my guys were hit (just a little fleshwound, though a hole in the suit). Because one of the players is force sensitive and he used the Move-power to disarm a minion group of B1s, the other droids were convinced that they were Republicans and cried out "Oh-oh, Jedi! Blast them!" so there wasn't much talking but blasting. When the B1s fell, they immediately attacked the T-series and his famous last words were "You Republicans will never get this ship" and suddenly there was a constant beeping! They had only seconds until the self-destruction mechanism went off, so they didn't bother with disarming, but blasted a hole in one of the windows and left the ship along with the atmosphere that was left. In space, the damaged suit was repaired by a desperate maneuver and a repair patch and they ordered their R2 Astromech which was left on board their ship to undock as fast as possible! And then they suffered the silent explosion of the whole bridge section of the ship. One guy took a little blunt damage from debris but all made it to their ship alive ...

It was a fun episode, although I expected a little more talking and less blasting. I kept the end open - they could have negotiated with the T-series; at least make use of the thousands of B1s on board - selling (or even donating) them to the Rebellion maybe? However, I also threw in a Mynock attack before they explored the ship, which was also harmless fun for them. All in all it went well, and I will surely keep @ GameboyAK s Starweird in mind for a future encounter. Also thanks to all of you who provided me input. It was another great evening of role playing in the Star Wars universe.

Why are you at all discussing about scientific correctness in a science fantasy game, especially in star wars? Heck, that discussion could easily go on for many parsecs.. ;)

If the story needs atmosphere, there is atmosphere. Period.

Edited by MasterZelgadis
1 hour ago, MasterZelgadis said:

Why are you at all discussing about scientific correctness in a science fantasy game, especially in star wars? Heck, that discussion could easily go on for many parsecs.. ;)

If the story needs atmosphere, there is atmosphere. Period.

That's true, however you have to maintain some sort of cohesion about how the universe works.

If everything can happen, it really brakes the "suspension of disbelief".

Of course it's very subjective and have to be tailored to the table, but still has to have some level of integrity.

4 minutes ago, Rimsen said:

That's true, however you have to maintain some sort of cohesion about how the universe works.

If everything can happen, it really brakes the "suspension of disbelief".

Of course it's very subjective and have to be tailored to the table, but still has to have some level of integrity.

Like jumping a ship to hyperspace can destroy entire fleets and no one used this tatctic in thousands of years? ;)

1 hour ago, MasterZelgadis said:

Like jumping a ship to hyperspace can destroy entire fleets and no one used this tatctic in thousands of years? ;)

Exactly

4 hours ago, MasterZelgadis said:

Like jumping a ship to hyperspace can destroy entire fleets and no one used this tatctic in thousands of years? ;)

I'm still shivering when I think about the consequences of that scene ... 🤢