8 minutes ago, Dezlin said:

maybe throw some Null in there if you've got some spare points

It a 30 point bid... Lol.

Back when FO was first released I was running SNR + PT Kylo / TS + Protons Blackout / Squad Leader BHC Null... That was changed quicksmart

What they need is to make Malarus a Silencer pilot. Imagine those 2 turns of TL, boost, Glitterstimm, run away with 5 straight. Would take always instead of Blackout XD.

3 hours ago, Oldpara said:

... of my World's Invites...

So far I haven't had a lot of success with 2 silencers. If I was going to attempt 2 silencers again this is how I would approach it:

TIE/vn Silencer - •Kylo Ren - 85
•Kylo Ren - Tormented Apprentice (76)
Sense (5)
Advanced Optics (4)

TIE/vn Silencer - First Order Test Pilot - 64
First Order Test Pilot - (58)
Fanatical (2)
Advanced Optics (4)

TIE/fo Fighter - •“Scorch” - 36
•“Scorch” - Zeta Leader (34)
Fanatical (2)

Total: 185/200

View in the X-Wing Squad Builder

I might replace scorch with midnight.

Using a base of two FO Test Pilots with Optics, you then have 72 points to play with. You could either add:

Two Omega Squadron SFs with Optics

OR

Two Zeta Squadron FOs with Optics, and still have 14 points left.

7 hours ago, Biophysical said:

"... of my World's Invites.. "

Isn't it now a main bounty?

I really don't care about all the swag, I always liked challenge coins and its kinda new challenge coin - little precious beautiful thematic card.

Few months ago, i brought Kylo, Recoil and QD to a tournament. Won only half my games. Got my butt kicked by Republic Beef and Separatist Swarms.

There was too many guns to avoid against my 3x guns to kill. The weak link was QD. Every opponent went after QD and the TieSF is too slow when compared with Silencers. Every game i lost QD and my Silencers were mostly untouched.

Them Silencers are SO much fun to fly.

“Quickdraw” (45)
Special Forces Gunner (10)
Fire-Control System (2)

Kylo Ren (76)
Hate (3)

“Recoil” (58)
Predator (2)
Total: 196

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0

On 10/28/2019 at 6:46 AM, Oldpara said:

Isn't it now a main bounty?

I really don't care about all the swag, I always liked challenge coins and its kinda new challenge coin - little precious beautiful thematic card.

Oh now it's about being a new kind of challenge coin. Have recent events shaped this insight?

Should have flown Kylo, especially considering the thread we're discussing this in.

Don't think we'll get double silencer to work given how silly bids are getting

The most I'd feel comfortable bidding would be

New Squadron

(39) "Backdraft" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(2) Fanatical
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 45

(76) Kylo Ren [TIE/vn Silencer]
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 80

(63) "Blackout" [TIE/vn Silencer]
(2) Fanatical
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 69

Total points: 194

1 minute ago, ficklegreendice said:

Don't think we'll get double silencer to work given how silly bids are getting

The most I'd feel comfortable bidding would be

New Squadron

(39) "Backdraft" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(2) Fanatical
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 45

(76) Kylo Ren [TIE/vn Silencer]
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 80

(63) "Blackout" [TIE/vn Silencer]
(2) Fanatical
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 69

Total points: 194

Pattern analyzer and primed thrusters help mitigate the bid game a lot, although I like this list more than any of the tech solutions I was going to propose.

Hux + Debris Gambit Silencers let you ignore the bid game entirely, although Debris Gambit is extended only and has to be used on the Silencers' activations. Now if Palp were to be a new FO crew--a crew consistent with his Republic and Empire themes of lending friendlies his Force powers--then Debris Gambit Silencers will be lit (seriously, Debris Gambit Maarek is very good with Palp. 4 pts for a reusable Shield Upgrade is a good deal for those 3 agi ships with a focus mod).

On 10/27/2019 at 8:50 PM, MidWestScrub said:

It a 30 point bid... Lol.

Rivas is typically better. Not always, but:

-only 28 pts

-can double mod nearly every turn, thanks to locks, stress, strain (soon deplete), ion, disarm, tractor, etc.

-I1 at start of game makes chain blocking Rebels, droid swarms, and Howlswarms very good

-the double mods act as a very strong aggro-sink

Rivas is great

Dunno how great in such a hard skew like double silencer, though

This is my list I have played a couple of times to good effect.

2 VN, 1 SF

(76) Kylo Ren [TIE/vn Silencer]
(3) Hate
(6) Ion Torpedoes
Points: 85

(63) "Blackout" [TIE/vn Silencer]
(1) Crack Shot
(6) Ion Torpedoes
Points: 70

(39) "Backdraft" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(1) Crack Shot
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 44

Total points: 199

1 hour ago, Chudley said:

This is my list I have played a couple of times to good effect.

2 VN, 1 SF

I'm gonna have to steal this list and fly it for fun. My list with QD was very lackluster. Switching to BD should improve things. Thanks!

1 hour ago, Chudley said:

This is my list I have played a couple of times to good effect.

2 VN, 1 SF

(76) Kylo Ren [TIE/vn Silencer]
(3) Hate
(6) Ion Torpedoes
Points: 85

(63) "Blackout" [TIE/vn Silencer]
(1) Crack Shot
(6) Ion Torpedoes
Points: 70

(39) "Backdraft" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(1) Crack Shot
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 44

Total points: 199

I was thinking about a variation of this when you posted that list. But mine is the following:

Kylo: Ion torps.

Recoil: Crack shot, ion torps, Advanced Optics.

Midnight: Crack shot, Fanatical, Advanced Optics.

6 minutes ago, Flyingbrick said:

Midnight: Crack shot, Fanatical, Advanced Optics.

Huh?

My editing was poor i see thanks for the catch.I totally overlooked the fact that i meant to delete crack shot from there Thanks for the catch

That is what i get for being in a hurry.

38 minutes ago, Flyingbrick said:

My editing was poor i see thanks for the catch.I totally overlooked the fact that i meant to delete crack shot from there Thanks for the catch

That is what i get for being in a hurry.

I wasn't sure which way you'd go there, I use CS on Midnight when I do fly him.

Cs might actually be a better choice for him.

The double Silencer list which tempts me:

• Sienar-Jaemus Engineer (-) 51
• Sienar-Jaemus Engineer (-) 51
• Scorch (Fanatical) 36
• Quickdraw (Crack Shot, Fire Control System, Special Forces Gunner) 58

The old QD double Silencer had passive mods in the old FCS and old Autothrusters, but had fairly low-PS Silencers brought because they were lowkey tanky. 2x Fanatical FOTP haven't really worked out, so maybe the trick is to go low, rather than high. SJEs have a lot of speed to flank or run if they need to. They can hit hard if they're uncontested, and they've got great mobility for throwing a block when they want to. Meanwhile, you can get a decent QD to threaten an enemy ace, plus a punch-up pest like Scorch.

Why double when you could have TRIPLE!

2 hours ago, RStan said:

Why double when you could have TRIPLE!

Because I lent a guy a Silencer dial at an event and forgot that I did so, so I packed up without checking with him (and we didn't exchange info). I'm cool with it, given that I have only 2 Swolencers, but since I'm not picking up another conversion kit, it would mean that I have to purchase the Smolencer AND THEN a 3rd Swolencer to properly field 3. And I can't just justify the Smolencer purchase for using it as a Lock because I modded Armada pieces to make some FO locks, and I thus have the smallest Smolencer to ever be placed on the mat regularly.

Jokes aside, one of the Cleveland guys flew this at a Trial I attended. IIRC, he did well with it, although he moved points so as to make Silencer #2 a Fanatical Avenger.

Pretty much all the twin Silencer lists I've ever faced (mainly in 1st, and usually with a third ship like Omega Leader) had one real strategy:. Pick off a ship quickly (or take it below half points) and run.

Don't get me wrong, if they get an opening they'll happily take unopposed shots to try and increase their lead, but in the main their game was to try and get ahead of the damage race and then avoid combat at all costs. With Advance Sensors, speed 5 greens and Optics they could get away with it as well.

Not sure if that strategy will still work too well for them in 2nd.

15 hours ago, FastWalker said:

I'm gonna have to steal this list and fly it for fun. My list with QD was very lackluster. Switching to BD should improve things. Thanks!

Me too. I don’t know what’s wrong with me, but I am terrible flying QD.