The Mandalorian
I can’t wait for this show to start
Looks like someone finally came up with a better way of landing a TIE than on its wings...
For when you have a
very
wide garage with a low ceiling.
Looks like they forgot how solar panels work.
When did Disney care about how things work anyway? I mean in Star Wars.
Edited by Norell53 minutes ago, Norell said:When did Disney care about how things work anyway? I mean in Star Wars.
There is a long rich history of pants crappingly stupid Star Wars ship design. Disney, for all of its sins, is not to blame here.
Edited by Church141 hour ago, Church14 said:There is a long rich history of pants crappingly stupid Star Wars ship design. Disney, for all of its sins, is not to blame here.
How dare you mock the glory that is the H-wing?
23 hours ago, Ling27 said:Looks like someone finally came up with a better way of landing a TIE than on its wings...
Only took 30 years of TIE Development.
7 hours ago, Squark said:How dare you mock the glory that is the H-wing?
Oh good lord what is that?
8 hours ago, Squark said:How dare you mock the glory that is the H-wing?
Luckily we'd never build something like that in real life...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang
10 hours ago, Church14 said:There is a long rich history of pants crappingly stupid Star Wars ship design. Disney, for all of its sins, is not to blame here.
The new TIE looks fine and sensible. Landing on the lower tips of the solar panel wings (as was canon before) was way more ridiculous.
And any new design that doesn't look like these following boatloads of crap is welcome
.
Even when prettied up, it looks the way it does.
11 minutes ago, JadinED said:The new TIE looks fine and sensible. Landing on the lower tips of the solar panel wings (as was canon before) was way more ridiculous.
And any new design that doesn't look like these following boatloads of crap is welcome
.
Even when prettied up, it looks the way it does.
I don’t mind the bomber. Kinda got a A-10 vibe to it.
The ship would be better without those dishes but even then it’s not the greatest design.
11 hours ago, Hedgehogmech said:Luckily we'd never build something like that in real life...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang
Not really comparable. That's still sleek and aerodynamic. As well as lacking in any sort of weird extraneous bits poking out.
25 minutes ago, Squark said:Not really comparable. That's still sleek and aerodynamic. As well as lacking in any sort of weird extraneous bits poking out.
Totally comparable. It is not aerodynamic because space ships don't need to be. No star wars ship is aerodynamic and they all have bits poking out. I mean have you seen the Y wing?
Honestly I think the H wing look legitimately really cool.
13 hours ago, Hedgehogmech said:Luckily we'd never build something like that in real life...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang
The twin Mustang was a pretty good aeroplane. The H wing on the other hand seems poor and plays to none of the rebel strengths.
On 10/26/2019 at 2:56 AM, JadinED said:The new TIE looks fine and sensible. Landing on the lower tips of the solar panel wings (as was canon before) was way more ridiculous.
Sandwiching the solar panels to face each other and therefor not actually get any light exposure is anything but sensible.
This all depends on what we are looking at though. Is it just a TIE with folding wings for easy landing? Then it's sensible. Although there isn't much reason to fold the top wing. The use of such features still seems limited. Folding wings are complicated and make things easier to damage, disable, and increase chances of things going wrong. Same goes for the extendable struts. There is a reason most helicopters have fixed landing struts (much like the fixed TIE fighter wings that basically use them as a landing strut) instead of retractable landing gear...and at least with a TIE fighter the strut is part of the structure where as with a helicopter it actually is a hindrance to the capability of the craft. So while the folding wings and retractable landing struts make sense, they add expense and complications without adding any functionality. That seems to be in direct conflict to the basic idea behind the TIE fighter.
Is this a new version of TIE that is always in this configuration like every other TIE we've seen? Then it's stupid and pointless and makes no sense.
If this is a new version of TIE that is always in this configuration (as most are) but the solar panels are on the top/bottom instead of the inside (as this illustration shows), then it's weird dragonfly looking TIE that serves a very specific role with limited use. There would be room to debate the sensibility of this, and the sensible argument would have an uphill battle.
I struggle to come up with a scenario where this makes sense. It increases the footprint of the craft which actually makes it harder to land (more clear, level space needed to land), along with making it harder to store. It almost seems like its some sort of long range, scout craft. Landing struts, folding wings, extended cockpit ball to the rear. Like its a single man TIE used for covert operation and has a hyperdrive. We need something that allows 1 person to go to backwater worlds on his own and land his ship in undeveloped terrain. Except that's not how the Empire works, and they already have a number of shuttles that would be better equipped for such a mission anyways.
It ends up just coming across as "We need a new version of TIE fighters for our show, because that's what the fans demand. If there isn't a new version of TIE fighters, then they won't tune in!"
On 10/24/2019 at 7:41 PM, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:
It looks like a ugly-ified Gunboat.
8 hours ago, kmanweiss said:It ends up just coming across as "We need a new version of TIE fighters for our show, because that's what the accountants demand. If there isn't a new version of TIE fighters, then they can't sell a new toy range !"
FTFY 😋
19 hours ago, kmanweiss said:Sandwiching the solar panels to face each other and therefor not actually get any light exposure is anything but sensible.
This all depends on what we are looking at though. Is it just a TIE with folding wings for easy landing? Then it's sensible. Although there isn't much reason to fold the top wing. The use of such features still seems limited. Folding wings are complicated and make things easier to damage, disable, and increase chances of things going wrong. Same goes for the extendable struts. There is a reason most helicopters have fixed landing struts (much like the fixed TIE fighter wings that basically use them as a landing strut) instead of retractable landing gear...and at least with a TIE fighter the strut is part of the structure where as with a helicopter it actually is a hindrance to the capability of the craft. So while the folding wings and retractable landing struts make sense, they add expense and complications without adding any functionality. That seems to be in direct conflict to the basic idea behind the TIE fighter.
Is this a new version of TIE that is always in this configuration like every other TIE we've seen? Then it's stupid and pointless and makes no sense.
If this is a new version of TIE that is always in this configuration (as most are) but the solar panels are on the top/bottom instead of the inside (as this illustration shows), then it's weird dragonfly looking TIE that serves a very specific role with limited use. There would be room to debate the sensibility of this, and the sensible argument would have an uphill battle.
I struggle to come up with a scenario where this makes sense. It increases the footprint of the craft which actually makes it harder to land (more clear, level space needed to land), along with making it harder to store. It almost seems like its some sort of long range, scout craft. Landing struts, folding wings, extended cockpit ball to the rear. Like its a single man TIE used for covert operation and has a hyperdrive. We need something that allows 1 person to go to backwater worlds on his own and land his ship in undeveloped terrain. Except that's not how the Empire works, and they already have a number of shuttles that would be better equipped for such a mission anyways.
It ends up just coming across as "We need a new version of TIE fighters for our show, because that's what the fans demand. If there isn't a new version of TIE fighters, then they won't tune in!"
Maybe it's meant to escort such a shuttle? Or it is an interstellar fighter for backwater sectors with only a single small garrison being responsible for all of it? The design definitely helps with landing on more difficult terrain, given the flexible struts and lowered center of gravity.
It's just a better looking tie hunter
20 hours ago, Cactus said:FTFY 😋
Touche
9 hours ago, LennoxPoodle said:Maybe it's meant to escort such a shuttle? Or it is an interstellar fighter for backwater sectors with only a single small garrison being responsible for all of it? The design definitely helps with landing on more difficult terrain, given the flexible struts and lowered center of gravity.
On first glance you'd think it's better for landing, but that isn't the case. Those giant wings still pitch down towards the sides and nearly touch the ground. To land a TIE you only need a roughly level area the width of the TIE. You could even land on top of a small boulder with one wing on either side for that matter...or over small trees, bushes, etc. You need two helicopter struts worth of space that are roughly level (it could certainly take some degree of incline).
The outland though? It's more than double the width, and instead of 2 relatively small struts, you now need to accommodate the entire thing on level ground (quite likely at a lower degree of incline than the TIE can handle). No doing this in rough terrain either as a protruding rock, bush, tree, etc would simply damage your solar wings.
The one environment where I can think of an advantage to the outland is a world with harsh winds without a prevailing wind pattern. The large wings of the TIE would be a pain to deal with in this situation where as the retractable wings would provide less wind resistance while parked in those situations.
It might be better suited for atmospheric flight than most Imperial fighters, like a long range TIE Striker.
Edited by The JabbawookieIt's amazing how little that thing reminds me of an X-Wing