39 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Oi

Play team epic

Resistance + rebs on one team

Done

Or the Ghost Crew and Separatists vs Empire, like that one episode of Rebels with the clankers.

You could also interpret this just as the Rebellion is joining the Resistance to fight a common enemy, which wouldn't necessarily mean you'd have to merge the two in X-wing gameplay terms.

Now, what you haven't brought up is the even more complex problem. The trailer implies (and could easily be a classic JJ Abrams red herring) that Rey and Kylo may finally join forces to fight a common enemy, ostensibly the Empire risen from the ashes or coming out of hiding. Now, if that's the case, then the First Order might join the Resistance (+Rebellion) to fight the Empire. That means you could hypothetically join the Resistance + Rebellion + First Order into one super faction based solely on this movie. And didn't someone spot a Lancer (scum) in there as well...

1 hour ago, KCDodger said:

It got torn off in the cavern chase in TLJ. It's no big deal.

Oh yes that’s right. Thanks.

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

Gameplay > Fluff.

And keeping Rebels and Resistance separate serves both.

A: Smaller factions are easier to balance, so two teams are better than one.

B: Thematically it maintains OT vs. ST. Players don't have to then suss them apart of they want to do something based on OT ships only or ST ships only.

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

Oi

Play team epic

Resistance + rebs on one team

Done

Yeah, this.

Or, at home, make 2 100-point lists and staple them together to play.

Once the ships have stats in the game, it's pretty easy to homebrew.

That and theres no real reason to carbon copy EVERYTHING

sure, it makes Disney money, but it'll get stale for us here at Xwing

Plus there'll be potential balance problems as faction-specific ships get access to faction specific upgrades, especially as the releases keep coming

Resistance and Rebs already share the GR-74, let that be enough 😛

esp since mine might see play after LITERAL YEARS of shelf storage

pristine, never opened; bought for the Xwing 😛

1 hour ago, KCDodger said:

I'm all for it. If Jacen's flying the ghost, that would say a LOOOOOOOOT.

Honestly really just want to see it all come together. The Colossus is there, so hearing Kazuda over comes would be just fantastic.

I'd be inclined to think that it's Jacen, and maybe he'll have a 40-year old Ezra Bridger as copilot - remember, <spoiler> Ezra went off to the Unknown Regions with the purgills at the end of Rebels. Maybe they finally found him? It would give the Resistance another force user!

Also, where do you see the Colossus in that very crowded shot?

16 minutes ago, feltipern1 said:

I'd be inclined to think that it's Jacen, and maybe he'll have a 40-year old Ezra Bridger as copilot - remember, <spoiler> Ezra went off to the Unknown Regions with the purgills at the end of Rebels. Maybe they finally found him? It would give the Resistance another force user!

Also, where do you see the Colossus in that very crowded shot?

I don't see it, but others, including Andi Gutierrez, have reported it.

2 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

That and theres no real reason to carbon copy EVERYTHING

sure, it makes Disney money, but it'll get stale for us here at Xwing

I'm the opposite.

I never really played Rebels, and it was cheaper to convert Resistance, so that's one of my 2.0 factions. So getting Mk II versions of everything is something I'm OK with as an X-Wing player, cuz I can play "fake Rebels" for half the start-up costs.

As a Star Wars geek, however, it's pretty disappointing.

45 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

I'm the opposite.

I never really played Rebels, and it was cheaper to convert Resistance, so that's one of my 2.0 factions. So getting Mk II versions of everything is something I'm OK with as an X-Wing player, cuz I can play "fake Rebels" for half the start-up costs.

As a Star Wars geek, however, it's pretty disappointing.

Hey, hey, I'm a star wars geek too... and it's only somewhat disappointing to me, BUT.

BUT.

IT IS ALSO VERY VERY COOL TO SEE WHAT A NEW TAKE ON THESE SHIPS IS LIKE.

Really loving the BTA-NR2.

5 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Maybe. Hera would be around 70, IIRC. Of course we've also got Han and Leia and Luke doing stuff well into old age. I believe twi'leks have a similar age range to humans.

If nothing else, I expect Hera, Jacen, and Chopper to still be there. I hope we eventually get to see what they've been up to in the interim.

It’s Ezra, Ashoka, and Sabine finally back from wherever he went....... Resistance Sabine!

5 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Maybe. Hera would be around 70, IIRC. Of course we've also got Han and Leia and Luke doing stuff well into old age. I believe twi'leks have a similar age range to humans.

If nothing else, I expect Hera, Jacen, and Chopper to still be there. I hope we eventually get to see what they've been up to in the interim.

It’s Ezra, Ashoka, and Sabine finally back from wherever he went....... Resistance Sabine!

5 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Maybe. Hera would be around 70, IIRC. Of course we've also got Han and Leia and Luke doing stuff well into old age. I believe twi'leks have a similar age range to humans.

If nothing else, I expect Hera, Jacen, and Chopper to still be there. I hope we eventually get to see what they've been up to in the interim.

It’s Ezra, Ashoka, and Sabine finally back from wherever he went....... Resistance Sabine!

2 hours ago, Rouge Five said:

It’s Ezra, Ashoka, and Sabine finally back from wherever he went....... Resistance Sabine!

I'll assume Typo over misgendering.

9 hours ago, FatherTurin said:

We have no clue what’s happening in the film with this screenshot, and the vast majority of older ships we see are capital ships, not fighters or other X-Wing scale ships. For all we know this is a last ditch “get everything with a gun and an engine into space.”

That's a good point. I mean, technically any ship could be used by any faction if we're talking about specific story moments. We've been talking about things like Shuttle Tydirium for years. I had something to say about the capital ship part of it, but I forgot by the time I started writing. XP

7 hours ago, dadocollin said:

Now, what you haven't brought up is the even more complex problem. The trailer implies (and could easily be a classic JJ Abrams red herring) that Rey and Kylo may finally join forces to fight a common enemy, ostensibly the Empire risen from the ashes or coming out of hiding. Now, if that's the case, then the First Order might join the Resistance (+Rebellion) to fight the Empire. That means you could hypothetically join the Resistance + Rebellion + First Order into one super faction based solely on this movie. And didn't someone spot a Lancer (scum) in there as well...

I recall somebody posting a picture on here from one of the books that distinguished "First Order" faction ships from "Sith" faction ships, despite saying that Kylo Ren was working for the Sith in the description for his First Order labeled ship. It might get even crazier if The First Order allies with the Resistance by splitting from the "Sith", which becomes a distinct faction with all the red ships and red troopers and the Emperor.

It'll be a shame if this really does muddy the faction waters for X-Wing. Not that it's a problem for the franchise, but Second Edition's factions have actually worked out pretty well so far and it's been really nice. I don't want to get excited for something that doesn't end up having an easy way for them to implement in X-Wing. 😜

12 hours ago, dadocollin said:

And didn't someone spot a Lancer (scum) in there as well...

I'm pretty sure there's also a Scurrg.

7 hours ago, Rouge Five said:

It’s Ezra, Ashoka, and Sabine finally back from wherever he went....... Resistance Sabine!

Infuriated by the multiple versions of Anakin and R2-D2, Sabine has returned, swearing to reclaim her crown as Most Prolific Character by appearing as a pilot and crew card for every faction. She'll be on the Resistance for half the movie and the First Order for the other half, so she can have cards for both.

13 hours ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Maybe. Hera would be around 70, IIRC. Of course we've also got Han and Leia and Luke doing stuff well into old age. I believe twi'leks have a similar age range to humans.

If nothing else, I expect Hera, Jacen, and Chopper to still be there. I hope we eventually get to see what they've been up to in the interim.

May happen sooner than you think.

Season 2 of Resistance is supposed to run right up to the timeline of The Rise of Skywalker.

It wouldn't be out of character for Dave Filoni to see Rebels characters brought through into Resistance in the same way Ashoka and Rex were brought from Clone Wars into Rebels.

(Ashoka maybe - how long to Togruta live? - Rex would be right out, though).

Double Post.

@KCDodger said

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Oh come on, it's The Ghost. That's like saying we don't know that's The Falcon!

And as it is Mystery-Box-MisterRailroadingThePlot JJ Abrams, it was stolen by Gannis Ducain, and then by the Irving Boys, and conveniently, despite having galaxy wide distances, it as exactly at the right spot exactly at the right time, where everyone just happens to be.

3 hours ago, Ysenhal said:

I'm pretty sure there's also a Scurrg.

Where?

3 hours ago, Ysenhal said:

Infuriated by the multiple versions of Anakin and R2-D2, Sabine has returned, swearing to reclaim her crown as Most Prolific Character by appearing as a pilot and crew card for every faction. She'll be on the Resistance for half the movie and the First Order for the other half, so she can have cards for both.

She lost her thin lead:

Sabine Wren 3 pilots (Rebel TIE, Rebel Attack Shuttle, Scum Lancer) + 1 crew (Scum).

Same number have actually * drum-roll *

-Chopper (Rebel Ghost pilot, Rebel crew, Rebel astro, Rep Astro (C1-10P))

-Ezra 3 pilots (Rebel TIE, Attack Shuttle, Sheathepede) + 1 Rebel crew

Closing in are

-R2D2 (Rebel crew and astro, Rep Btl-B Y pilot)

-Odd Ball (!) 3 pilots (Arc170, Torrent, Btl-B Y) obviously he was cloned several times

-Anakin 3 pilots (Rep Space Banana, Aethersprite, BTL-B Y)

18 hours ago, FatherTurin said:

We wait for December. There’s more than one VCX-100 in the galaxy.

While true, there’s only ever been one 1300 on screen. Casual fans will recognize the ship and be confused if it’s same class / different ship. There is a 99.999% chance that’s the Ghost itself.

8 hours ago, KCDodger said:

I'll assume Typo over misgendering.

Uh, Ezra is a he. He’s the one that went missing and would be coming back from whatever he was doing. The poster’s pronoun usage was correct.

Sabine went to go get him. They could be back together in 9 as much older (40s?) selves.

10 hours ago, KCDodger said:

I'll assume Typo over misgendering.

1 hour ago, ScummyRebel said:

While true, there’s only ever been one 1300 on screen. Casual fans will recognize the ship and be confused if it’s same class / different ship. There is a 99.999% chance that’s the Ghost itself.

Uh, Ezra is a he. He’s the one that went missing and would be coming back from whatever he was doing. The poster’s pronoun usage was correct.

Sabine went to go get him. They could be back together in 9 as much older (40s?) selves.

13 hours ago, Rouge Five said:

It’s Ezra, Ashoka, and Sabine finally back from wherever he went....... Resistance Sabine!

Since this is kind of my jam, the appropriate sentence structure would have been this: "It's Ezra, with Ahsoka and Sabine, finally back from wherever he went...Resistance Sabine!"

19 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

Going from four sides to three is a step backwards: I want my Star Wars to keep moving forward.

Yes move forward with forward thought.

19 hours ago, SabineKey said:

Triangles are merely a fraction of the true ultimate geometric shape: a pyramid!

That is a two dimensional thought.

How many sides/angles does a circle have, two dimensional 360, I think that that is more the ultimate geometric shape.

Go 3d and make it a ball I say.

7 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:

May happen sooner than you think.

Season 2 of Resistance is supposed to run right up to the timeline of The Rise of Skywalker.

It wouldn't be out of character for Dave Filoni to see Rebels characters brought through into Resistance in the same way Ashoka and Rex were brought from Clone Wars into Rebels.

(Ashoka maybe - how long to Togruta live? - Rex would be right out, though).

Togruta also have similar lifespans to humans, maybe slightly shorter. I'm noticing a trend there. Ahsoka was born 36 BBY so this would put here at 68. Whatever happened with the weird temple between worlds might affect how old she is biologically, though.

Rex, yeah. I think we shouldn't expect more than 50-55 years for clones. He was already around at least late 20s in Rebels, having been born 32 BBY. Hosnian Cataclysm is 34 ABY. If he's still alive, assuming the accelerated growth last their entire lives, he'd likely be very decrepit and an exclusionary example both of clones and humans. I think there might still be some things we don't know about clones in canon but I seriously doubt he'd be there. He'd basically feel like 132.

I don't think we know Lasat lifespan but Zeb was born 44 BBY.

Sabine at 21 BBY, Hera at 29 BBY, are obviously more likely. And it's the Ghost. The Ghost without Hera would feel wrong.

But wasn't it also implied that Sabine and Ahsoka went looking for Ezra and Thrawn? Ezra would be 53. Chiss in Legends lived to 80 but I'm not sure we've heard in canon yet, so Thrawn would be an unknown. Assuming Sabine and Ahsoka found them.

37 minutes ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

The Ghost without Hera would feel wrong.

I don't know. Honestly I'd rather see Hera at the helm of a capital ship with Jacen behind the wheel of the Ghost. I mean, she let Mart fly it for one of its most game-changing (read: cetacea ex machina) scenes. Then again she was probably not in the best place at the time, emotionally.

I still haven't got over Kanan, and neither has my wife. It's the worst thing ever.

8 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

While true, there’s only ever been one 1300 on screen. Casual fans will recognize the ship and be confused if it’s same class / different ship. There is a 99.999% chance that’s the Ghost itself.

Uh, Ezra is a he. He’s the one that went missing and would be coming back from whatever he was doing. The poster’s pronoun usage was correct.

Sabine went to go get him. They could be back together in 9 as much older (40s?) selves.

"And sabine back from wherever he went".

Just, look at how that reads?

7 hours ago, feltipern1 said:

Since this is kind of my jam, the appropriate sentence structure would have been this: "It's Ezra, with Ahsoka and Sabine, finally back from wherever he went...Resistance Sabine!"

See they get it.

17 hours ago, Ysenhal said:

I'm pretty sure there's also a Scurrg.

Infuriated by the multiple versions of Anakin and R2-D2, Sabine has returned, swearing to reclaim her crown as Most Prolific Character by appearing as a pilot and crew card for every faction. She'll be on the Resistance for half the movie and the First Order for the other half, so she can have cards for both.

And then reveals she is Ray’s mother!