DT's worlds run deserves some hype. Its a pretty fundamental list and it was awesome to see a good player do well in a big tournament with it. This is not just a rebel beef variant, it has alot more going on than that. I hope its the kind of archetype that people consider picking up and try to learn to use well. Variations on what it does are available to all factions and are worth experimenting with.

• Wedge serves as a legit threat to a # of ships in the game, but cant function as a pure end game ship with limited mobility, though boost matters alot.
• Braylen without cassian or leia is all about the flight path, is slightly less able to just joust and talon or k turn, angled approaches kinda matter though jake helps.
• Jake functions as a double reposition ace against anything i3 and below, along with providing actions to Braylen to link or Wedge.
• Blount is great 3 attack dice value at 30 pts and a legit threat as the game progresses.
• Rolls with three init 4 ships which helps a good amount against various types of swarms and ace list filler.
• Includes an i1 blocker which is valuable against a # of swarms/jousting lists.
• Leverages crackshot which is one of the coolest cards in the game rewarding overlapping arcs, blocks, and turn to turn setup.
• 5 Ships is right around the # of ships needed to threaten premovement or stressless mobile ace lists.
• The list is capable of more distributed engagements with that # of ships and without any real "friendly" range triggers besides Jake.

Amazing rundown of an amazing list.

I agree - it's a great fundamental list that looks fairly innocuous on the surface, but in the hands of a skilled player has a lot of light synergy, making it a real threat to a lot of lists.

Z-95 . ......

The only ship absolutely no one thought would make top table at worlds.

Well flown! He really did a great job

I know Daniel is a 3-time Imperial Assault champ. Did he play competitive X-Wing prior to 2.0? He got top 32 at Adepticon...I think he dropped to play Imperial Assault? Is that accurate? He got final table in another System Open, won a third one, got top 8 for at least one Hyperspace Trial that i know of and now got final table at Worlds. His Worlds list was completely different from the Han/Poe he ran for the other events. That dude is good.

That guy Daniel is amazing. Crazy gamble to take out Vader in the final, in like 2nd round IIRC. He was lucky to kill Vader and not lose Wedge in the process to 3 shots, it was a smart/calculated risk that still easily could have gone badly.

I feel that Rebel list is decent but it was the player that made it hum. Like, there is nothing undercosted or overly efficient in that list IMO. Once Wedge died it folded pretty fast - too many 2-guns. Oli executed the perfect plan to come back from the Vader shock: finish off Wedge, then take Braylen, then it's over.

Totally agree. It was a list with a bunch of ships that relied on putting them in the right place and shooting stuff, not card combo interactions, surprises, or matchup counters. It rewards the player for being good at the game.

3 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Totally agree. It was a list with a bunch of ships that relied on putting them in the right place and shooting stuff, not card combo interactions, surprises, or matchup counters. It rewards the player for being good at the game.

Huh. Wonder if I know anyone who likes that sort of thing.

13 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Huh. Wonder if I know anyone who likes that sort of thing.

Maaaaaaaybe.

26 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Huh. Wonder if I know anyone who likes that sort of thing.

Its kinda awesome how many lists exist across factions that are basically "identical" to DT's list.

39 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

Its kinda awesome how many lists exist across factions that are basically "identical" to DT's list.

Side effect of adjustable points is that they can make more pilots kinda decent. The game is in a great place!

Yeah I would say that nearly none of those pros of the list are actually pros. Which makes the list even more interesting. But I reckon frankly it’s not the best list. It was just well flown.

6 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Yeah I would say that nearly none of those pros of the list are actually pros. Which makes the list even more interesting. But I reckon frankly it’s not the best list. It was just well flown.

Its absolutely possible for lists to be good without a high # of combo cards.
It was obviously well flown, but thats not all that happened here.
The list is very logically built and matches up well.

2 hours ago, Biophysical said:

Totally agree. It was a list with a bunch of ships that relied on putting them in the right place and shooting stuff, not card combo interactions, surprises, or matchup counters. It rewards the player for being good at the game.

this game isn't a card combo game? I was told peak xwing skill was remembering triggers better.

Just now, Boom Owl said:

Its absolutely possible for lists to be good without a high # of combo cards.
It was obviously well flown, but thats not all that happened here.
The list is very logically built.

Yeah I hear you. I don’t agree when making a value comparison to other lists.

I’m willing to be proven wrong but I don’t think the list itself is really that good. Requires too much precision flying and a low bound for error.

1 hour ago, Blail Blerg said:

Yeah I hear you. I don’t agree when making a value comparison to other lists.

I’m willing to be proven wrong but I don’t think the list itself is really that good. Requires too much precision flying and a low bound for error.

Its not that hard, it has legitimate strengths and rewards good decision making.
Has options against basically all archetypes. 5 Ships in itself is a huge feature.
People should try lists like this and learn to use them well, dont dismiss it as "for pros only".

9 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Yeah I would say that nearly none of those pros of the list are actually pros. Which makes the list even more interesting. But I reckon frankly it’s not the best list. It was just well flown.

Considering the top prizes can be sold for hundreds of dollars, which for most of the attendees would barely cover travel expenses, I'm pretty sure you're right that there are no pros.

What's gonna happen when Resistance gets an I6 Wedge RZ2 A-Wing? ............

*Cue maniacal laugh*

Boooahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

21 minutes ago, jagsba said:

this game isn't a card combo game? I was told peak xwing skill was remembering triggers better.

...and preventing dial slippage.

15 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

People should play lists they love and learn to use them well

FTFY

Anyone else flys this list and it won't go well. This list did well because he knows how to fly it to an obscenely good level. As covered, the list doesn't really have an end game element to it, which basically means he got his initial engagement right every single time.

1 hour ago, gennataos said:

...and preventing dial slippage.

IT WILL ALWAYS BE TOO SOON (actually fine, just will always be a little salty about it)

44 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Considering the top prizes can be sold for hundreds of dollars, which for most of the attendees would barely cover travel expenses, I'm pretty sure you're right that there are no pros.

Sadly you’re right about your own point but that isn’t a logical rebut in itself.

!bigemote :iagree:

55 minutes ago, jagsba said:

this game isn't a card combo game? I was told peak xwing skill was remembering triggers better.

So happy to have forgotten even that guys name.