The Next Book should be like the gadgets and gear but, Have it be all the species in one book and add 25-30 new species to the book.

That would be Really Kool.

I would buy it. AsAp!!

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I thinks it's more likely we get a book collecting ships and/or vehicles, or other similar "collection" books. I'm guessing it's a pretty safe way to stall for time until Episode 9 is done and The Mandalorian has had time to flesh out some of setting in between.

Considering that Lucasfilm now has a tighter control of the canon compared to the mess that was the old EU, setting books like Suns of Fortune and Lords of Nal Hutta are a bit harder to do, as Lucasfilm has to coordinate so that comics, novels, video games and rpg materials don't contradict each other too much. Probably means that one type of Star Wars media can't really tackle something that another media has brought up until the ones who brought it up are done with it.

Take Milvayne for instance. There's a background character in Rogue One (Tam Posla iirc) who is established in the visual guide as hailing from Milvayne. As it's not even mentioned in the film, it was probably no big deal for the comics (Doctor Aphra to be specific) to get approval to use Posla and Milvayne. However, should FFG want to put out some material on the Milvayne Authority, Lucasfilm would have to coordinate with the writers over at Marvel to make sure this wouldn't conflict with their future plans. Now, if I was a writer for Dr Aphra and Lucasfilm came asking whether or not I was done with Milvayne and was fine with handing it over to FFG to elaborate on what I've established in their RPG supplements, I'd be hesitant. Even if I didn't have any concrete plans for it, there's a secondary character in the book that's actually from there, so it would be nice to keep my options open in the future, and not having to adhere to whatever some kooky rpg writer thought would be a cool campaign setting. Meaning that a Milvayne setting book would pretty much be limited to just all ready established facts and no new significant world building.

And of course, being Lucas film , whatever the films might want to do something with at later date is pretty much bound to be off the table, lest it risks being contradicted by later films. Hence the scrubbing of the EU bothans.

A coherent canon is a laudable effort, but it's not without it's drawbacks from an RPG world building effort.

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Of course, I dont have much, if any, insight in the industry, so this is pretty much just me making an uneducated guess. Take it for what it's worth.

I think that would be good, and I would think that cards would be good too. Biggest slow down in the game is Alien Species explanation.

I would love to see a KOTOR campaign book for two main reasons.

1.) original content. Some of the clone wars material could be found in the previous books. IE droidekas in chronicles of the gatekeeper. A KotOR campaign boom would provide new material for us to use.

2.). Because of the quality of the games: KoTOR is arguably the most popular timeline for hardcore SW fans. Every player I’ve encountered always get excited about a KoToR campaign name drop. In regards to sales, for saga edition the KotOR time setting book was incredibly popular and at one point was selling for over 100.00 on eBay. And may still be going for that price.

23 minutes ago, Sincereagape said:

I would love to see a KOTOR campaign book for two main reasons.

1.) original content. Some of the clone wars material could be found in the previous books. IE droidekas in chronicles of the gatekeeper. A KotOR campaign boom would provide new material for us to use.

2.). Because of the quality of the games: KoTOR is arguably the most popular timeline for hardcore SW fans. Every player I’ve encountered always get excited about a KoToR campaign name drop. In regards to sales, for saga edition the KotOR time setting book was incredibly popular and at one point was selling for over 100.00 on eBay. And may still be going for that price.

With movies and tv back in regular, active production, I think it’s safe to say that this one won’t happen until and unless the time period is (re)explored in current canon material. Just as Timothy Zahn wasn’t allowed to expand on the Clone Wars period in the original Thrawn trilogy because that was reserved for Lucas if/when any new movies would be made, I think that the “Old Republic” period will be off-limits pending LFL doing something with the era. It may be proposed, but wouldn’t be approved.

I think the era we have available at the moment is the golden age of the republic. Like 1000 to 100 years before Yavin.

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1 hour ago, Nytwyng said:

With movies and tv back in regular, active production, I think it’s safe to say that this one won’t happen until and unless the time period is (re)explored in current canon material. Just as Timothy Zahn wasn’t allowed to expand on the Clone Wars period in the original Thrawn trilogy because that was reserved for Lucas if/when any new movies would be made, I think that the “Old Republic” period will be off-limits pending LFL doing something with the era. It may be proposed, but wouldn’t be approved.

Well, assuming that FFG is still publishing books for this game, if we do indeed get KOTOR-inspired movies* from Lucasfilm down the road, that'd probably be the prime opportunity for FFG to make an era book for that time frame.

But otherwise, yeah LFL does seem to be putting more constraints on what they can touch in terms of creating source books. FFG certainly doesn't seem to have quite as much creative freedom in terms of broadening the universe as they may have had back in the earlier days of the RPG. Or, it could just be folks are reading too much into it and the reason that FFG isn't doing more system-specific books is that the original crop (Suns of Fortune, Lords of Nal Hutta, Strongholds of Resistance, and Nexus of Power) simply didn't sell well enough to make producing more of those sorts of products viable, thus leading to the change of direction to write era-based books instead, with the focus thus far on eras that have gotten official treatment.

*They have been announced, but there's been a high number of films announced that have wound up stuck in development limbo, and it's quite possible that LFL/Disney may just drop it if the toxicity of people like Daeglan towards the new films reaches a point where they decide the return on investment for films just isn't worth it.

The next SW book should be an erotica novel about how the exogorths get freaky with their asteroid rocks, burrowing down and through while sexy jazz tracks play in the background.

.....yeah I don't really care what book might be next

20 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

*They have been announced, but there's been a high number of films announced that have wound up stuck in development limbo,

Huh. I've heard rumors (like most of us), and I've heard of one writer claiming to have been commissioned to put together a treatment for an Old Republic story for them, but no confirmation or announcement from LFL (that I recall, anyway). Although seems like pretty much everyone is seeing it as a foregone conclusion. Big question is whether it's a standalone, a TV series, the Benioff/Weiss trilogy, the Johnson trilogy, or the Feige project (assuming Feige's not going to be working on one of the aforementioned trilogies...personally, I hope it's separate, and he convinces LFL to back a dump truck of money up to the Russo brothers' offices).

3 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

With movies and tv back in regular, active production, I think it’s safe to say that this one won’t happen until and unless the time period is (re)explored in current canon material. Just as Timothy Zahn wasn’t allowed to expand on the Clone Wars period in the original Thrawn trilogy because that was reserved for Lucas if/when any new movies would be made, I think that the “Old Republic” period will be off-limits pending LFL doing something with the era. It may be proposed, but wouldn’t be approved.

Regardless, Old Republic has the potential to be a successful selling book for FF if LFL ever approves it. EoTE for the most part is played by Star Wars fans who are deeper in their fandom than the casual fan.

Many die hard, moderate Star Wars fans enjoy the KotOR era. Fans who grew up on the Kotor cpu games are a demographic who can spend money on FF products. KotOR for Saga edition is the most sought out book, other than the Saga Core, for that RPG line.

4 minutes ago, Sincereagape said:

Regardless, Old Republic has the potential to be a successful selling book for FF if LFL ever approves it. EoTE for the most part is played by Star Wars fans who are deeper in their fandom than the casual fan.

Many die hard, moderate Star Wars fans enjoy the KotOR era. Fans who grew up on the Kotor cpu games are a demographic who can spend money on FF products. KotOR for Saga edition is the most sought out book, other than the Saga Core, for that RPG line.

I didn’t (and won’t) dispute any of that. But, I stand by the notion that an Old Republic era book wouldn’t be approved by LFL until/unless they decide to explore it on screen. And then, it would reflect the new canon, not the Old Republic setting as it currently exists. For better or for worse.

3 hours ago, KungFuFerret said:

The next SW book should be an erotica novel about how the exogorths get freaky with their asteroid rocks, burrowing down and through while sexy jizz tracks play in the background.

.....yeah I don't really care what book might be next

FTFY

5 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Well, assuming that FFG is still publishing books for this game, if we do indeed get KOTOR-inspired movies* from Lucasfilm down the road, that'd probably be the prime opportunity for FFG to make an era book for that time frame.

But otherwise, yeah LFL does seem to be putting more constraints on what they can touch in terms of creating source books. FFG certainly doesn't seem to have quite as much creative freedom in terms of broadening the universe as they may have had back in the earlier days of the RPG. Or, it could just be folks are reading too much into it and the reason that FFG isn't doing more system-specific books is that the original crop (Suns of Fortune, Lords of Nal Hutta, Strongholds of Resistance, and Nexus of Power) simply didn't sell well enough to make producing more of those sorts of products viable, thus leading to the change of direction to write era-based books instead, with the focus thus far on eras that have gotten official treatment.

*They have been announced, but there's been a high number of films announced that have wound up stuck in development limbo, and it's quite possible that LFL/Disney may just drop it if the toxicity of people like Daeglan towards the new films reaches a point where they decide the return on investment for films just isn't worth it.

Because this attitude isnt toxic at all. got it.

9 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Well, assuming that FFG is still publishing books for this game, if we do indeed get KOTOR-inspired movies* from Lucasfilm down the road, that'd probably be the prime opportunity for FFG to make an era book for that time frame.

I strongly suspect that while these films will be set in the same time period, they will not actually be KOTOR-inspired at all, and not at all compatible with the setting from the games. Probably much less technologically advanced and not just Star Wars with more or less the exact same technology they have in the movies.

Which I kinda like.

7 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

I strongly suspect that while these films will be set in the same time period, they will not actually be KOTOR-inspired at all, and not at all compatible with the setting from the games. Probably much less technologically advanced and not just Star Wars with more or less the exact same technology they have in the movies.

Which I kinda like.

Well, "inspired by" is a pretty broad label. There have been a number of films and TV episodes that were "inspired by" real life events that upon comparison have very little in common with what actually happened in the source of inspiration.

I'm certainly not expecting them to do any sort of retelling of the video games, which at best might get alluded to in broad strokes. But I'll be very surprised if we see a retelling of Revan's story, much less see Revan himself in whatever format the series (be it films, live-action, or animation) takes.

4 hours ago, Daeglan said:

Because this attitude isnt toxic at all. got it.

Tell you what, you stop carrying on like either Tramp Graphics or AluminumWolf trying to argue their skewed interpretations of the game is correct and that everyone who disagrees is wrong, and maybe I'll take your criticisms more seriously. But you can only spew so much vitriol yourself before others get fed up and slap back, especially when your so-called "talking points" about why the films are inherently bad are almost word-for-word quotes from the increasingly toxic and misogynistic portion of the Star Wars community such as Mike Zeroh, whom you posted a link to one of his clickbait videos in another thread trying to pass him off as a source of truth when he's anything but.

Or, and this is probably a novel idea for you I'm certain, you could just excuse yourself entirely from threads talking about the recent films, accepting that rather than badgering people in them with the same recycled and thoroughly debunked claims of how the film failed to explain things or how Rian Johnson or JJ Abrams "betrayed" various characters by going the directions that they did with them.

2 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Tell you what, you stop carrying on like either Tramp Graphics or AluminumWolf trying to argue their skewed interpretations of the game is correct and that everyone who disagrees is wrong, and maybe I'll take your criticisms more seriously. But you can only spew so much vitriol yourself before others get fed up and slap back, especially when your so-called "talking points" about why the films are inherently bad are almost word-for-word quotes from the increasingly toxic and misogynistic portion of the Star Wars community such as Mike Zeroh, whom you posted a link to one of his clickbait videos in another thread trying to pass him off as a source of truth when he's anything but.

Or, and this is probably a novel idea for you I'm certain, you could just excuse yourself entirely from threads talking about the recent films, accepting that rather than badgering people in them with the same recycled and thoroughly debunked claims of how the film failed to explain things or how Rian Johnson or JJ Abrams "betrayed" various characters by going the directions that they did with them.

Ill yell you what maybe consider what.you are being told more honestly and not based on your opinion of the thoughts in a knee jerk fashion. Because so far you dont. You make a lot of bad assumptions about what want my concerns to be rather than what they actually are.

3 hours ago, Daeglan said:

...maybe consider what.you are being told more honestly and not based on your opinion of the thoughts in a knee jerk fashion. Because so far you dont. You make a lot of bad assumptions about what want my concerns to be rather than what they actually are.

You would do well to take your own advice, as thus far where the topic of TLJ comes up, you're just as much a belligerent troll as ErikB ever was, thread-crapping in them just so that you can spew bile about how you didn't like the movie while trying to claim it was an all-around objectively bad movie when it all boils down to you simply not liking it while being utterly incapable of moving past that.

19 minutes ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

You would do well to take your own advice, as thus far where the topic of TLJ comes up, you're just as much a belligerent troll as ErikB ever was, thread-crapping in them just so that you can spew bile about how you didn't like the movie while trying to claim it was an all-around objectively bad movie when it all boils down to you simply not liking it while being utterly incapable of moving past that.

Says the guy spewing bile.

6 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

I'm certainly not expecting them to do any sort of retelling of the video games, which at best might get alluded to in broad strokes. But I'll be very surprised if we see a retelling of Revan's story, much less see Revan himself in whatever format the series (be it films, live-action, or animation) takes.

I seem to recall Dave Filoni saying that a Revan appearance was in the cards for Clone Wars at one time. (As were the Yuuzhan Vong.)

So never say never.

Although it would indeed be surprising if they did it.

On 10/18/2019 at 4:59 PM, Nytwyng said:

I seem to recall Dave Filoni saying that a Revan appearance was in the cards for Clone Wars at one time. (As were the Yuuzhan Vong.)

So never say never.

Although it would indeed be surprising if they did it.

You're right, but that was long before the Disney buy-out though - I believe the Revan appearance was slated for Clone Wars Season 3, in an episode that aired in 2011 so would have been in production sometime in 2009.

I know a lot of people want KOTOR content (heck, I'd use it if it was out there) but I think it's not going to happen until the new continuity establishes what that era consists of.

If they ever do visit the Old Republic era in the films, I would not be surprised if it is very different aesthetically to what we got with the video games which - for all their strengths - always struck me as odd how they seemed to have the same level of technology that exists thousands of years later in the OT.

As for the OP's question, I'm also in the camp of expecting a "Vehicles & Vessels" book but I'd be down for a species book too - though as someone who owns all the books I'd want a lot more new content in the latter. The NPC/gear/hypothetical vehicle compilations are good for GMing even if most of the content is reprints since they'll get constant use throughout a campaign but as playable species only come up during character creation I don't mind book-diving so much to go through all the different options as it is a one-time thing. Therefore a species book would need to justify the purchase more than the others by having a lot more new options.

@Kualan , we are totally on the same page as to any potential Old Republic content. While I think it’s possible that they might borrow a major character or two (such as Revan) and use them in a new story (like they did with Thrawn), I don’t think it’s probable. The odds would be higher or lower depending on the nature of the project and who was involved in the production. (For example, a Filoni production might be more inclined to do so than if it’s the Benioff/Weiss trilogy.)

4 hours ago, Kualan said:

playable species only come up during character creation I don't mind book-diving so much to go through all the different options as it is a one-time thing.

One answer: SPREADSHEETS!!!!!!

I'd like to see them do a book of modular elements, with npc writeups (just the basics as they are supposed to be modular), and some basic maps of Generic Location 27. Since I know a significant portion of the player base is only comfortable using stuff that's published, without much in the way of individual creativity, this would be a nice addition I think. A quick reference source for when they have to come up with a random Cantina scene, because the Face PC decided to go off on a sidequest in the middle of smuggler town.

On 10/20/2019 at 11:12 AM, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

One answer: SPREADSHEETS!!!!!!

Another answer: oggdude's generator plus the few books he hasn't already entered