This image is from then new Ultimate Star Wars book. It confirms the Imperial Support vessel is a Dreadnaught class heavy cruiser. Not only that, it appears to be modular. I would suspect that the rectangular "pods" on the sides of the ship can be switched out with different weapon types: missiles, turbolasers, anti starfighter laser cannon etc. Whatever an Imperial fleet needs. Rendili StarDrive still makes the ship.

Imagine having a ship that provided a variable amount of dice depending on its weapon configurations.

I want this ship! I know what you're saying: "but dude, the last Rebel/ Imperial expansions are coming out in January. Then it's the Clone Wars. "

So? A man can try, can't he? They gave us the Starhawk after many people said they wanted it.

Give us one more Rebel/Imperial expansion Fantasy Flight. I would buy 2-4 of these ships if they're done well. r release the non Imperial version of th

If you want a Dreadnaught, post here and tell em how many you would buy. 😝

Also, as a Rebel expansion to go with the Imperial Dreadnaught, Fantasy Flight could do one of two things: They can make an Assault Frigate Mark 1 which is a modified Dreadnaught, of the Dreadnaught that was shown in the Thrawn comics. As you can see, Ultimate guide here confirms they were Dreadnaughts (though they call them Imperial support vessels, the image in the comics shows the original organic looking Dreadnaught. )

Assault frigate Mk I

You can see the Batonn Insurgents' dreadnaughts are the usual ones with organic looking curves for their edges and weapon pods.

If FF wanted to, they could release the Assault Frigate Mk I for rebels or the original dreadnaught for the rebels along with the Imperial version of the Dreadnaught.

49 minutes ago, RG1701 said:

I know what you're saying: "but dude, the last Rebel/ Imperial expansions are coming out in January. Then it's the Clone Wars. "

Literally nobody ever said that.

FFG never said that they will stop releasing GCW faction ships with the start of the CW factions. FFG did mention that they are slowly starting to run out of ships to add to the game, which is why they are introducing new factions. Their focus will undoubtedly be on the new factions for some time but I think there are still some ships, including the Imperial support vessel, that will definitely come to Armada at some point.

49 minutes ago, RG1701 said:

it appears to be modular. I would suspect that the rectangular "pods" on the sides of the ship can be switched out with different weapon types: missiles, turbolasers, anti starfighter laser cannon etc.

Would be cool if it came with several generic titles that vastly change the upgrade slots available to the ship. Might be a fun mechanic.

I would like to see the assault frigate mark 1 paired with in a wave. Hopefully as a much needed Rebel medium. There are certainly many images of it out there (it's on the Adar Tallon card)

The Dreadnought could also tie in as a Clone Wars release for the Republic who need more ships anyway.

So 3 AFMk1s and 2 Dreadnoughts for me.

Yikes. I think I'd rather ffg make up a new ship than introduce that.

I've never been a fan of the dreadnaught but at least the fan renders where palatable. That version looks truely aweful. The 90s called, they want their low poly spaceship back.

Super excited

Yeah, Assault Frigates Mk I are pretty cool. I might get two if they made 'em.

I'm sorry to be this guy, but like CMDR Kastor, I do not see the allure of this ship.

I think it's among the ugliest star wars models I've ever seen. Of course I'd buy one if they made it anyway.

My question is, what is it about this ship that appeals to everyone? Is it just nostalgia from some old video game or something? It looks like a kindergartener drew it with a grey crayon.

3 hours ago, CMDR Kastor said:

I've never been a fan of the dreadnaught but at least the fan renders where palatable. That version looks truely aweful. The 90s called, they want their low poly spaceship back.

2 minutes ago, MDeliso said:

I think it's among the ugliest star wars models I've ever seen.

I mean, we really do not know what the ship looks like yet. It only appears in Rebels (and very small in a couple comic book frames) and Rebels' art style is known to distort ships a lot .

Just look at the ISD. I think the ISD ist the cooles looking space ship throughout all of science fiction, but the ISDs in rebels are truly horrendous. Like I still can not believe how unspeakably ugly the ISD looks in Rebels.

So the final design of the dreadnought is still totally open.

The ship is no worse than stuff like the Quasar Fire.

It's a little trooper that could. It was a tank that could absorb damage while giving a decent amount of damage back. It's also different form the usual triangular design.

Affection is for it is the same as what people have for dogs so ugly they're cute.

The ship is old, even in lore. It's like having a 1700s hundred ship in your modern warfleet. Almost whimsical.

It's the same reason I like the Victory class Star Destroyer. Old ship still fighting.

Not quite. More having a pre-World War I 20th century ship in a World War II fleet. Technology just doesn't advance fast enough in Star Wars for a sailing warship in modern navy comparison for a dreadnought in the GCW era.

They do feel like having an R class or Queen Elizabeth battleship running around on the field. Are they going to be as strong as a modern battleship, no, but cheaper to operate and working in second line missions. For convoy escort duty and bombardment they got the job done which parallels the missions that these ships would still be used for and would feel right at home in a rebellion in the rim campaign.

And that's exactly what we see them used for in older material. They are either being used for second line missions, or because that's what the users could get.

Makes me really happy to see that the Dreadnought is Canon again. Chances of coming to Armada one day wil be high now.

Would for sure buy 2+ and if they bring the MK1 Frigate for the rebels at the same wave I would also for sure buy 2+

7 hours ago, MDeliso said:

I'm sorry to be this guy, but like CMDR Kastor, I do not see the allure of this ship.

I think it's among the ugliest star wars models I've ever seen. Of course I'd buy one if they made it anyway.

My question is, what is it about this ship that appeals to everyone? Is it just nostalgia from some old video game or something? It looks like a kindergartener drew it with a grey crayon.

For one tastes differ. I don't find it to be an ugly ship, but ok nostalgia likely has a part in that. I grew up with the Thrawn Heir to an Empire series and pc games like X-wing,Tie Fighter and Rebellion. They appeared prominently in those. So for me they have always been a part of Star Wars and I liked the role and lore they were given at the time.

... Which means Thrawn's 96th Task Force was ready, willing, and likely able to fight off Thirty of them.

And in fact, had reduced their numbers by 2/3rd with TIE Fighters alone, before the Chimaera even had to warm up her Turbolasers.......

... That's really going to reflect poorly on them. The Dreadnoughts of Old, they are not, it seems...

Honestly wins like that have always been Thrawn's forte. And it seems to me that fighter lasers are much more effective against Capital ship shields and armor in the new canon compared to Legends. And how many of those thirty ships were Dreadnaughts? We know the insurgent fleet's thirty ships also included some GR-75s and Gozantis, both much weaker then Dreadnaughts, along with some midsized ships that never had their class identified.

18 hours ago, LordCola said:

FFG did mention that they are slowly starting to run out of ships to add to the game, which is why they are introducing new factions.

It’s so sad that the old EU stuff appears to be out of bounds now. There were some truly decent designs out there to be had.

But even if the old EU stuff is not canon anymore, surely that doesn’t mean they lost the rights? Or did they? Can’t they just recanonise anything they want?

I still don’t see why FFG/Lucasfilm can’t just continue to make stuff up if they are running low on designs.

5 minutes ago, ISD Avenger said:

But even if the old EU stuff is not canon anymore, surely that doesn’t mean they lost the rights? Or did they? Can’t they just recanonise anything they want?

who are you referring to with "they"? If you are referring to FFT than the answers to the questions are: FFG does not have any rights on their own. They just licence the Star Wars IP from Disney. FFG can literally do nothing with the Star Wars IP (so no recanonisations and no making up new ships ) without direct approval from Disney.

If you are referring to Disney, than the answer is: They hold all the rights to the Star Wars IP and they can do basically anything they want with it. So they can recanonise anything they want. But I assume they might want to distance their new canon from legends to some degree so that may be a reason why they do not recanonise every vehicle.

Honestly I doubt that Disney cares whether or not FFG uses Legends ship designs or invents new ones. Just like I doubt that Disney cares if Legends ship classes are recanonized by novels or comics.

Edit: I expect Disney to be much stricter on movies, TV shows, cartoons, and video games.

2 hours ago, RogueCorona said:

Honestly I doubt that Disney cares whether or not FFG uses Legends ship designs or invents new ones. Just like I doubt that Disney cares if Legends ship classes are recanonized by novels or comics.

Edit: I expect Disney to be much stricter on movies, TV shows, cartoons, and video games.

They do. They care enough that even changes to the faq and errata to be LFL and Disney approved because Theyre “licensed” documents and under copyright.

36 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

They do. They care enough that even changes to the faq and errata to be LFL and Disney approved because Theyre “licensed” documents and under copyright.

I wanted to answer the same, but then I remembered Tarkin (Novel) and thought, @RogueCorona has a point with his novels and comics argument. I mean Tarkin did manage to sneak in like 7000 old legends ships that have never been mentioned since in canon. Though Tarkin was one of the earliest canon novels if I recall correctly, so maybe Disney hadn't quit figured out how they wanted to handle old ships. It certainly does seem like Disney does care a whole lot more about people using legends stuff today than back when the new canon started.

12 minutes ago, LordCola said:

I wanted to answer the same, but then I remembered Tarkin (Novel) and thought, @RogueCorona has a point with his novels and comics argument. I mean Tarkin did manage to sneak in like 7000 old legends ships that have never been mentioned since in canon. Though Tarkin was one of the earliest canon novels if I recall correctly, so maybe Disney hadn't quit figured out how they wanted to handle old ships. It certainly does seem like Disney does care a whole lot more about people using legends stuff today than back when the new canon started.

There's a huge difference as well between mentioning it, and depicting it, as well.

12 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

... Which means Thrawn's 96th Task Force was ready, willing, and likely able to fight off Thirty of them.

And in fact, had reduced their numbers by 2/3rd with TIE Fighters alone, before the Chimaera even had to warm up her Turbolasers.......

... That's really going to reflect poorly on them. The Dreadnoughts of Old, they are not, it seems...

So... TIE fighters will be getting a major buff in Armada v2?

On 10/12/2019 at 8:14 PM, MDeliso said:

I think it's among the ugliest star wars models I've ever seen.

Ugliest Legends Ship:

Ugliest Canon Ship:

Personally I am a fan of the classic Dreadnaught but hate the new Imperial Support Vessel.

Edit: The Bulwark-class battlecruiser has been re-Canonized by FFG in the Rise of the Separatists book.

26 minutes ago, Piratical Moustache said:

Ugliest Legends Ship:

Ugliest Canon Ship:

Personally I am a fan of the classic Dreadnaught but hate the new Imperial Support Vessel.

Im sorry, do you forget the Vong... the,

"We didnt know what could fight Jedi at this point... so we made force immune, bioengineering people from a different galaxy to invade and be a mega-threat..."

Because some of those designs are ugly.