3 minutes ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:
Realy nice ad! : )
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21 hours ago, RyantheFett said:"Unfortunately for Fett, it was at this point that his memory came back due to Leia shouting Han's name repeatedly. Fett fired on the unarmed Solo before he managed to free him from the sandcrawler, causing Solo to jump onto the sand. The sandcrawler, with Fett still in it, crashed into the mouth of the Sarlacc, trapping Fett once more. Solo once more thought that Fett was dead." - The wook
Think its a comic, but Legends now and I was super far behind with all of them. Somebody in this forum reminded me about that stupid story. I was always with the belief that the old Eu contradicted each other and fans just picked their favorite stories. Like a good old fashion fairy tale.
I would think old EU would have mix feelings on George Lucas selling Star Wars. Sure no new stories, but no longer would Lucas come in steal the best ideas from the books and comics and throw them into his work (Korriban into Moraband). I always hated the old canon hierarchy. I swear that Lucas changed his mind on Boba Fett living or dying several times over the years, but his relationship with the fandom was not the best.
I just spend 20 minutes looking for that quote; never found the source comic for it, but by the looks of a panel associated with it, I'd guess early 80s Marvel? So, a comic line that was never really considered "canon" in any serious sense in the EU? Again, looks like confusion based on different quality and tiers of comics rather than any actual contradiction.
And no, I've yet to meet an actual EU fan that's anything but annoyed with how Disney has handled the situation. Besides the wholesale rejection of the EU, the rejection of the "hierarchy" as you called it, which means Heir to the Empire is on the same level as The Jedi Prince series, and the ban on new material (one terrible comic aside) they also have the same tendency to steal ideas from the EU and graft them into their terrible movies. At least when Lucas did it, he took whole concepts, characters, and planets, and used them rather than completely twist them around and then deleting the source material.
31 minutes ago, Alpha17 said:I've yet to meet an actual EU fan that's anything but annoyed with how Disney has handled the situation.
Well we haven't met, but you do know at least one.
I was a fan of the EU. Still am. Stackpole, Zahn, Karpyshyn, and so many more wrote a lot of interesting stuff. That said they also wrote a lot of fan fiction quality filler. There's nothing wrong with that either. Most of these books were written when Star Wars was not expecting to ever have another movie. After the buy out and the expectation of new movies with the original cast, I knew Disney had two real choices.
1.) Wipe the EU or ignore it to create new/semi-original movies stealing popular ideas and re-branding as they need.
2.) Jump into the middle of one of the EU story arcs between 25-40 years ABY and try their best to bring it to life, probably the "New Jedi Order" series, and try to make a coherent standalone movie off 30 years of EU content leading up to that point in the timeline.
The legends EU was cluttered, had multiple stages of what was "canon" and had a ton of content with a lot of detailed connections between media. I don't think Disney had a good choice here, neither way was going to make everyone happy, but I understand why they did what they did, and honestly I like the idea of "legends" status.
17 hours ago, Chrisael said:Realy nice ad! : )
This ad gave me a solid chuckle. All I know is, if OSHA saw this, that job site is getting locked down lol
3 hours ago, Alpha17 said:I just spend 20 minutes looking for that quote; never found the source comic for it, but by the looks of a panel associated with it, I'd guess early 80s Marvel? So, a comic line that was never really considered "canon" in any serious sense in the EU? Again, looks like confusion based on different quality and tiers of comics rather than any actual contradiction.
And no, I've yet to meet an actual EU fan that's anything but annoyed with how Disney has handled the situation. Besides the wholesale rejection of the EU, the rejection of the "hierarchy" as you called it, which means Heir to the Empire is on the same level as The Jedi Prince series, and the ban on new material (one terrible comic aside) they also have the same tendency to steal ideas from the EU and graft them into their terrible movies. At least when Lucas did it, he took whole concepts, characters, and planets, and used them rather than completely twist them around and then deleting the source material.
I get that your upset that the EU was killed, but to say the old system was any better is not clear cut as that. I loved the old EU and collecting Boba Fett comics/books as a kid was my jam, but I truly hated the system. As a kid (and still even now) I found it a confusing thing and always thought there could be a better way. My friend (the biggest EU fan I have ever met and still gives me lectures on events) quit being a Star Wars fan after the 2008 Clone Wars TV show (don't worry he came back). That show came out and made dozen of books (my friend still gushes on how much he loves Labyrinth of Evil ), comics, and even the 2003 Clone Wars TV not canon. Or maybe all those things were never canon I do not know............
And I could be wrong about all of this and there was a clear sign that certain books were not canon. I truly did not ever know and apparently I was wrong about all of it even today. I just picked the ones I liked and figured that was good enough. Here is also the wook link to the hierarchy and a nice little picture to show that I may be wrong, but not crazy: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Canon
Could the reboot be better? **** ya! Was it step in the right direction? I would argue yes. I now at least know that everything i read or play should be canon. Will they do stupid things that contradict one another? Ha, somebody has that long list somewhere already. But at least I will not get into a fights anymore if Anakin had an apprentice and can now enjoy a decent video game, watch another episode of the Mando, and know it is all canon. Which somehow makes it better for me, I don't know why.
7 minutes ago, RyantheFett said:I get that your upset that the EU was killed, but to say the old system was any better is not clear cut as that. I loved the old EU and collecting Boba Fett comics/books as a kid was my jam, but I truly hated the system. As a kid (and still even now) I found it a confusing thing and always thought there could be a better way. My friend (the biggest EU fan I have ever met and still gives me lectures on events) quit being a Star Wars fan after the 2008 Clone Wars TV show (don't worry he came back). That show came out and made dozen of books (my friend still gushes on how much he loves Labyrinth of Evil ), comics, and even the 2003 Clone Wars TV not canon. Or maybe all those things were never canon I do not know............
And I could be wrong about all of this and there was a clear sign that certain books were not canon. I truly did not ever know and apparently I was wrong about all of it even today. I just picked the ones I liked and figured that was good enough. Here is also the wook link to the hierarchy and a nice little picture to show that I may be wrong, but not crazy: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Canon
Could the reboot be better? **** ya! Was it step in the right direction? I would argue yes. I now at least know that everything i read or play should be canon. Will they do stupid things that contradict one another? Ha, somebody has that long list somewhere already. But at least I will not get into a fights anymore if Anakin had an apprentice and can now enjoy a decent video game, watch another episode of the Mando, and know it is all canon. Which somehow makes it better for me, I don't know why.
If nothing else the continuity should be easy for Disney to maintain now that the slate is clean. We'll see though.
Just started playing today. Dam good so far. Great combat, graphics look good, seeing planet like Dathomir. And it feels like Star Wars
I was asked on private messages what I think of the game.
I’ve played about 24 hours of the game but I am a SLOW player and I am on Wookieepedia half the time as I play to update.
While I have an obvious bias for it as it’s a Star Wars game, at the moment I think it’s possibly the BEST (XBOX) RPG I have played since Skyrim.
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Holy Crap poor cal....
Your talking about Marvel Comics Star Wars 81 titled ‘Jawas of Doom.’
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YES! I was hoping you'd be able to restore the lightsaber to a dual sided one after seeing that Kal's saber was originally a double sided saber!
The 13th ‘Iron Battalion’
This game also essentially puts pauldron colors into canon for stormtroopers again. I haven't unlocked all the empire enemies yet but here is what I've seen.
Stormtrooper Commander - Orange (no surprise there)
Heavy Assault Trooper - Z-6 Trooper with dark gray pauldron (the databank picture looks dark gray but in-game it looks black)
Rocket Launcher Trooper - RPS-6 Trooper with dark red pauldron (this is going to mess with some people because red has been the commander in Rebels I think)
There may be more but I've only progressed so far in the game so I'll update if I see more
Edited by ewardell10 hours ago, ewardell said:This game also essentially puts pauldron colors into canon for stormtroopers again. I haven't unlocked all the empire enemies yet but here is what I've seen.
Stormtrooper Commander - Orange (no surprise there)
Heavy Assault Trooper - Z-6 Trooper with dark gray pauldron (the databank picture looks dark gray but in-game it looks black)
Rocket Launcher Trooper - RPS-6 Trooper with dark red pauldron (this is going to mess with some people because red has been the commander in Rebels I think)
There may be more but I've only progressed so far in the game so I'll update if I see more
Yea the red pauldron showed up in rebels, and I think the black one as well. Both were used on commanders if I remember right in rebels
It's quite good once you get over the weird hurdle that is the first real level after the prologue.
I have some complaints but overall I enjoyed this game, just wanted to pop in and say Taron Malicos was right, goodbye
2 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:
Who would have thought that theres a market for a story driven campaign game instead of another online multiplayer. Not very far into it myself but I'm enjoying it.
The fact that you have to basically murder everything you come across while playing as a Jedi in training was a major hurdle for me to get past.
The story was pretty good, but the game itself felt like it was half baked. They rushed it out for the holiday season.
The controls are pretty horrible. The maps suck. No fast travel. Linear story line.
4.5/10 and it's only that high because the story was good.
Are Kyle and Jan in it?
Two sources saying that ‘Jedi: Fallen Order’ sequel releasing in 2022.
Today Kotaku revealed during an in depth report of a cancelled Star Wars: Battlefront spin-off video game that Respawn are already working on to Jedi: Fallen and that EA Motive are hard at work on a Star Wars game.
The Kotaku article gives no other details but personally heard that the Jedi sequel will release the Fall of 2022.
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Designated EU content as "Legends" doesn't mean it never existed, or that it no longer exists -- or even that it's not true.
Merriam-Webster defines a legend as "a story coming down from the past, especially one popularly regarded as historical although not verifiable." There are legends from throughout human history, even around recent events.