Well, I think this ship is showing up too many times for it to not show up in the game eventually. The trick is how do you make the game's 3rd x-wing unique.

Personally, I would base it on the nose. Huge and bulbous. Must have a lot of sensors. So, give it a range 4 lock, a range 4 primary attack (my 1st choice) or an extra tech/sensor slot.

23 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Well, I think this ship is showing up too many times for it to not show up in the game eventually. The trick is how do you make the game's 3rd x-wing unique.

Just going off of the wookiepedia entry, a few things stand out:

• No torpedoes

• Similar defense to T-65

• Fast. According to Disney EU, this thing is as fast as an A-Wing, albeit not as maneuverable.

I would give it the same stats as a T-65: 4H, 2S, 3ATT, 2AG. Give it a 5-straight, boost *and* barrel roll on the main chassis, and give it vectored thrusters (RZ-1 ship ability) on it's closed S-Foils along with -1ATT. 43pts base cost. This isn't radically different from either of the other X-Wings, but it adds just enough to make it an interesting choice.

4 minutes ago, hargleblarg said:

Just going off of the wookiepedia entry, a few things stand out:

• No torpedoes

• Similar defense to T-65

• Fast. According to Disney EU, this thing is as fast as an A-Wing, albeit not as maneuverable.

I would give it the same stats as a T-65: 4H, 2S, 3ATT, 2AG. Give it a 5-straight, boost *and* barrel roll on the main chassis, and give it vectored thrusters (RZ-1 ship ability) on it's closed S-Foils along with -1ATT. 43pts base cost. This isn't radically different from either of the other X-Wings, but it adds just enough to make it an interesting choice.

The no torps in actually kind of nice. It makes sure that the T-70 has a role as ordnance and cannon carrier that the T-85 can’t have.

It does feel a little weird that it would be less tough than the T-70, but the increased speed could help with that.

It looks so big it’s hard to imagine it wouldn't have beefier shields and hull.

I would give it an A-wing dial minus the blue turns and a 3/2/4/6 stat line with focus/TL/BR and a linked Boost from the focus and TL.

Does the Resistance fly these in the book? So far we have only seen them be used by the New Republic. I also thought that one of the Pablo Hidalgo books stated that all known models were destroyed by Starkiller Base (although these have been overruled before).

I’ve been seeing mentions of them being able to be outfitted with cloaking devices. Maybe make that as a ship specific mod?

Five straight.

Blue three banks.

Double Tech slots OR Tech+Sensor

5 H 3 S

50+ points for I1/2.

7 minutes ago, Whalers on the moon said:

Does the Resistance fly these in the book? So far we have only seen them be used by the New Republic. I also thought that one of the Pablo Hidalgo books stated that all known models were destroyed by Starkiller Base (although these have been overruled before).

I find it hard to believe that all of the T-85s in existence were around the atomized planets. Of course, the entire demilitarization to the point that's suggested is a bit hard to believe as well, so maybe they really are all gone. If any are left, I'm thinking there would be few.

Also, I don't care. Put them in the Resistance faction anyway. They're neat-looking and I want them and I'm fairly certain we won't have a New Republic faction.

1 minute ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

I find it hard to believe that all of the T-85s in existence were around the atomized planets. Of course, the entire demilitarization to the point that's suggested is a bit hard to believe as well, so maybe they really are all gone. If any are left, I'm thinking there would be few.

Also, I don't care. Put them in the Resistance faction anyway. They're neat-looking and I want them and I'm fairly certain we won't have a New Republic faction.

I'd agree.

As far as the forthcoming standalone series goes, I doubt it will take place in an analogous era of post ww2 1950s demilitarization politics.

Maybe, but I'm calling a post-Ep9 series myself.

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Now how about those elusive E-Wings?

9 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

I'd agree.

As far as the forthcoming standalone series goes, I doubt it will take place in an analogous era of post ww2 1950s demilitarization politics.

Maybe, but I'm calling a post-Ep9 series myself.

........

Now how about those elusive E-Wings?

There are several ships in this image that I'd very much like to know more about. The one in the center, the one on the bottom left, the one on the middle left, the one middle top. Are these all known vehicles or just fun stuff they added to the issue? (Also, do you know what issue that is?)

I would go this way:

• Very fast (and with boost), but not very maneuverable.
• +1 hull.
• sensor slot, maybe double tech slot.
• exclusive mod for cloak. <--- this is very cool, and would make the ship unique in the Resistance.
• droid upgrade card: C4

The Wookieepedia doesn't mention torpedoes, but I doubt this ship wouldn't have them. Anyway, those are easily added/removed in the 2nd edition.

Pilots:

• Poe Dameron
• Kazuda Xiono
• Mia Gabon
• Hugh Sion
• Rapier Squadron pilot

5 minutes ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

There are several ships in this image that I'd very much like to know more about. The one in the center, the one on the bottom left, the one on the middle left, the one middle top. Are these all known vehicles or just fun stuff they added to the issue? (Also, do you know what issue that is?)

Issue #23

Bottom left is a Delta 7 Aethersprite (Jedi Starfighter from the Galactic Republic).

I can't remember what the middle one is, but it reminds me of the Alpha Nimbus V-Wing.

6 minutes ago, Odanan said:

I would go this way:

• Very fast (and with boost), but not very maneuverable.
• +1 hull.
• sensor slot, maybe double tech slot.
• exclusive mod for cloak. <--- this is very cool, and would make the ship unique in the Resistance.
• droid upgrade card: C4

The Wookieepedia doesn't mention torpedoes, but I doubt this ship wouldn't have them. Anyway, those are easily added/removed in the 2nd edition.

Pilots:

• Poe Dameron
• Kazuda Xiono
• Mia Gabon
• Hugh Sion
• Rapier Squadron pilot

If they do go with a cloaking mod, maybe make either Mia or Hugh’s ability benefit from it?

40 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

I can't remember what the middle one is, but it reminds me of the Alpha Nimbus V-Wing.

Yes, it looks like a V-Wing without the "hood". (much better, IMHO)

5 minutes ago, Odanan said:

Yes, it looks like a V-Wing with the "hood". (much better, IMHO)

I always liked the Republic fighters.

The V-Wing less-so, but it made me feel better that they were spiritual/technical predecessors to the TIE/ln anyway.

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I just want to put an E-Wing in my Resistance squadrons and give it a new coat of Black and Orange paint.

5 hours ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

Of course, I wouldn't mind some New Republic Black and Blue E-Wings, either....

1 hour ago, Darth Meanie said:

Well, I think this ship is showing up too many times for it to not show up in the game eventually. The trick is how do you make the game's 3rd x-wing unique.

Personally, I would base it on the nose. Huge and bulbous. Must have a lot of sensors. So, give it a range 4 lock, a range 4 primary attack (my 1st choice) or an extra tech/sensor slot.

Long-range could be a cool trick.

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Expensive E-Wing/Defender statline like 3/3/4/3. Actions are only Focus, Lock, and red Evade.

The necessary S-Foils would be "Aileron S-Foils" which, if not stressed, would force you to do either [Open] a boost-like move, or [Closed] a barrel-roll-like move, before you reveal your dial. The S-Foils could be flipped after activation (not before, so an opponent can plan around which kind of pre-dial movement you do).

We just haven't seen it carry torpedoes, but I certainly believe it can.

But the T-85 is a good fighter design. It's a Resistance TIE Defender to be certain. Gonna' cost a LOT when it comes in.

Put Poe in one to match up against I6 3F TIE Whisper Kylo Ren.

13 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Put Poe in one to match up against I6 3F TIE Whisper Kylo Ren.

Y? Poe v Kylo is already a fascinating and level matchup. I6 v. Force and heavier use of the tech slot. Although, especially when Upsilons are involved, Kylo opts to let his goons handle Poe.

2 minutes ago, player3010587 said:

Y? Poe v Kylo is already a fascinating and level matchup. I6 v. Force and heavier use of the tech slot. Although, especially when Upsilons are involved, Kylo opts to let his goons handle Poe.

22 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Long-range could be a cool trick.

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Expensive E-Wing/Defender statline like 3/3/4/3. Actions are only Focus, Lock, and red Evade.

The necessary S-Foils would be "Aileron S-Foils" which, if not stressed, would force you to do either [Open] a boost-like move, or [Closed] a barrel-roll-like move, before you reveal your dial. The S-Foils could be flipped after activation (not before, so an opponent can plan around which kind of pre-dial movement you do).

First Xwing with no config?

Ship Ability:

Experimental S-foils: while you are stressed, you may still perform boost actions.

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or

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OPEN: if you have 2 or fewer stress tokens, you may still perform boost and target lock actions.

CLOSED: reduce the difficulty of your turn maneuvers. ++SLAM action.

40 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

CLOSED: reduce the difficulty of your turn maneuvers. ++SLAM action.

Please, don't put Slam on a ship with ps 5/6's. Atleast not unlimited Slams.

Black one is ok because it's 1, 2 charges max.

1 hour ago, CaptainJaguarShark said:

Of course, the entire demilitarization to the point that's suggested is a bit hard to believe as well, so maybe they really are all gone.

That was really common for countries to do after major wars, right up until the cold war. It makes a ton of sense to me that the Republic- which derives legitimacy from the consent of the governed- would have a military 10% the size of the Empire- which ruled by fear.

The fact that the Republic kept it's entire military around the capital seems. Well. Weird and dumb.

3 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Well, I think this ship is showing up too many times for it to not show up in the game eventually. The trick is how do you make the game's 3rd x-wing unique.

We're at 4 tie fighters now so i believe!

Random guesses include a sensor slot, statline of 3 red 3 green 4 hull 2 shields, definitely boost, i like the a wing dial minus green turns idea, maybe cut the 1 hard since its a little larger?