Dice trays, dice towers, vs using the mats/tables

By LTuser, in X-Wing

I lined the inside of my Core Set box with felt and turned it into a dice box and I love it!
Personally I hate rolling dice on the table because they always bump models, run over obstacles, or just fall on the floor. At least they're in a contained space.

On 9/25/2019 at 5:52 PM, flooze said:

I prefer a dice cup. Doesn't throw dice all over the place and reasonably small for transportation

Remember when dice games actually shipped with a plastic cup for rolling dice in? I wonder why people stopped doing that.

10 hours ago, irdonny said:

Me and my friend have long since used shared dice pools while playing for exactly this reason. Mitigates the "bad dice" for one player, and now everyone can use the bad dice...together :)

When i run my HOTAC games, i supply the dice for it.. So no one has to worry about good/bad dice..

Rolling dice is personal. One of the greatest joys of my X-Wing experience was rolling three straight crits, no mods. Unfortunately, this B-Wing still had four shields :D Still, I find rolling to be an important part of the game.

I strongly believe that in competitive play both players should be using the same dice.

9 hours ago, spacebug said:

Remember when dice games actually shipped with a plastic cup for rolling dice in? I wonder why people stopped doing that.

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12 hours ago, spacebug said:

Remember when dice games actually shipped with a plastic cup for rolling dice in? I wonder why people stopped doing that.

Maybe they felt, including the , would make the packaging too big??

3 hours ago, LTuser said:

Maybe they felt, including the , would make the packaging too big??

It’s true, where are you going to fit a useable dice cup in, say the X-wing core set?

On 9/25/2019 at 2:12 AM, Archangelspiv said:

I have a friend who rolls his dice so uncontrollably that we use a lid to a large board game like Shogun or Axis and Allies. Dice still seem to spill out....

And Fortress America? Loved all those games back in the 80's

On 9/25/2019 at 3:34 AM, Hylian100 said:

To add on to this; does anyone use the dice app?

Yeah a guy in my league started using it but he holds his phone where no one can see it and keeps tapping the screen saying, "This stupid button won't roll. Oh there it went. I got Hit, Crit, Crit, Crit."

2 hours ago, pickirk01 said:

And Fortress America? Loved all those games back in the 80's

**** yes!!!! They were some good games.

7 hours ago, pickirk01 said:

And Fortress America? Loved all those games back in the 80's

4 hours ago, Archangelspiv said:

**** yes!!!! They were some good games.

Used to LOVE Playing as America in fortress america.. BUT other than vs my brother, or one of my school mates, i rarely got a chance to play it vs other folk. Axis and allies on the other hand.. I played the heck out of that, back in the day..

On 9/26/2019 at 1:58 AM, spacebug said:

Remember when dice games actually shipped with a plastic cup for rolling dice in? I wonder why people stopped doing that.

Remember when rolling dice was simple and straightforward, and didn't require specialized equipment or years of study?

I used the Dice App for a while because I was getting consistently below average results on dice. I kept thinking it was in my head, but even when I was rolling with double or triple mods, I was barely breaking average for naked rolls. Dice App evened things out for a while when I started using it. Kept using it for about 6 months until one person at a tournament refused to accept it and insisted I used actual dice. I could have argued it was official and in the rules, but I just wasn't arsed at the time, and pulled out my dice again with a sigh. Went back to the app after the tournament but had to get rid of it when I switched phones because, weirdly, the app was rolling noticeably below average again. I even compared it side-by-side over 50 rolls to my old phone and it was kind of dramatically different. Another friend said he'd noticed the same when he upgraded his phone too.
Tl;dr, used the app for a bit, back to rolling dice.

I probably should get some kind of dice tray or tower. We're perpetually tight on space in the store whenever I'm there for a game. Having a clear area for rolling is tough to find sometimes.

One of the local players has such lousy luck with dice, during a game he trashed his dice and bought 4 new packs of FFG dice. It didn't help.

He transitioned to the dice app and things got a little better . In a recent game, during the second half where things got interesting, the app gave him 2 evades and the rest blanks over 6-7 rolls. He ceded the game after that debacle.

I'm not sure how many players realise that the dice app is not truly random.

On 9/26/2019 at 1:58 AM, spacebug said:

Remember when dice games actually shipped with a plastic cup for rolling dice in? I wonder why people stopped doing that.

The only games I have ever owned that came with dice cups are backgammon sets and Yahtzee sets. I started getting board games in the late seventies. My Dungeon Dice game had a rolling tray in the center of the board that also represented the castle over the dungeon you were escaping.

Has anyone seen a decent Star Wars dice tray that has a small table footprint? All the ones I can find are like 7” x 7” or larger.

2 hours ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

Has anyone seen a decent Star Wars dice tray that has a small table footprint? All the ones I can find are like 7” x 7” or larger.

Forgive my ignorance, but do dice trays usually come smaller than that? It seems like if it were much smaller, you'd be placing the dice rather than rolling them.

7 hours ago, Frimmel said:

The only games I have ever owned that came with dice cups are backgammon sets and Yahtzee sets. I started getting board games in the late seventies. My Dungeon Dice game had a rolling tray in the center of the board that also represented the castle over the dungeon you were escaping.

We had a "games compendium" that came with a cup, and an alphabet dice game.

4 hours ago, JJ48 said:

Forgive my ignorance, but do dice trays usually come smaller than that? It seems like if it were much smaller, you'd be placing the dice rather than rolling them.

Most of the square ones i've seen, are 5 to 6 inches across..

16 hours ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

Has anyone seen a decent Star Wars dice tray that has a small table footprint? All the ones I can find are like 7” x 7” or larger.

I've played people with trays that are like thin mouse-mats with pairs of fasteners at each corner, where you pop each pair together and have a fairly compact "tray". Unfortunately the smaller ones have enough of a curve that it's more of a bowl shape than a tray and sometimes it's hard to tell whether dice are cocked or just angled.

14 hours ago, spacebug said:

We had a "games compendium" that came with a cup, and an alphabet dice game.

"Compendium?" Sounds like it had backgammon in it? And "alphabet dice game" sounds like a kind of Yahtzee.

I use a Dice tray most of the time. I made mine modeled after the Wormwood ones. I made a custom damage deck holder area in it, alongside the dice storage area. I prefer Trays over towers, because actually rolling the dice adds drama to the game. The one drawback is that with the 8-sided dice, sometimes you get a die that leans up against the wall, leading to a cocked die reroll, which is annoying, and feels bad both when it's a crit rerolled into a blank or a blank rerolled into a crit. But, you could get them landing on asteroids or knocking ships around without, so net gain, I suppose. They also make a nice sound when rolled in the tray.

I of course don't have an issue with people who choose to use them, but to me they seem to slow the game down. People who use dice cups seem to take 5 seconds longer shaking them than most people when they just roll, and the towers are often out of easy reach, and then take a few seconds to shake their way down. I lack patience for that. Just a personality thing.

I'm also the guy who can't stand to be stuck behind people who walk more slowly than I do (which is almost everyone), people who drive more slowly than I do (which is almost everyone), or generally just anything else that takes any longer than absolutely necessary. So I get that it's a personality quirk, but it's just how it is.

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9 hours ago, Frimmel said:

"Compendium?" Sounds like it had backgammon in it? And "alphabet dice game" sounds like a kind of Yahtzee.

The only game I remember for sure from it was "Chinese Checkers", but it probably had chess, draughts, backgammon, solitaire, ludo.

The alphabet one was like a cross between yahtzee and scrabble

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I never liked rolling on the table.

I’ve been using suitable parts from ship packaging for dice trays.

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