FFG, you guys are doing alright. But I gotta figure you're going to sit on some inventory here and lots of lost $

Because nobody wants this

when you could have released THIS

Well, at least you're going to be selling out of Republic Y-Wings for the next 6 months. That was a good call. Mm hm.

I disagree. Meet the new Scum Meta:

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)
Total: 200

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0

180° arc (Torp+turret to the side) behind 36 Health.

Not sure I agree on the tone, but I do think the Lambda is pretty iconic and it's strange that it's been skipped over so far.

@Force Majeure what if you make two of those torps Ion Torps? that way the Ion ones can help set up the APT ones for the kill.

We were talking at the FLGS last night about this. The Jumpmaster, in its 2.0 incarnation, seems almost hopelessly unplayable. It has too much hull to get a price drop below 40 points, but the dial, action bar, and the 2-attack, single-arc turret give it no other place in the game. There's nothing it a can do that the YT-1300 can't do better.

Can anything be done to redeem this ship short of releasing a Jumpmaster-only configuration or releasing an Aces pack with an entirely new stat-line and action bar?

12 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

Can anything be done to redeem this ship short of releasing a Jumpmaster-only configuration or releasing an Aces pack with an entirely new stat-line and action bar?

They could give it a sensor slot, but a decent number of people would throw an immediate fit that something even resembling deadeye scouts was brought back.

Jumpmaster-only upgrades are needed. Maybe a second stab at a title.

4 Contracted Scouts with whatever combination of upgrades is fairly formidable.

Maybe its a 2 die primary, but they will not die easily. Clog lanes. Block ships. You got this.

49 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Not sure I agree on the tone, but I do think the Lambda is pretty iconic and it's strange that it's been skipped over so far.

@Force Majeure what if you make two of those torps Ion Torps? that way the Ion ones can help set up the APT ones for the kill.

I think they are pushing the lambda down the line because it will make empire extended and hyperspace start to look identical

Blockers with deadman switch is slightly amusing.

Their wave 5 release are obviously the reason Contraband Cybernetics is available in HS. But that's not enough. What REALLY broke it wasn't even the dial or the slots---it was the lack of a primary forward arc weapon. The careful depowering of Inertial Dampeners and Feedback Array in 2.0 also robbed it of dirty tricks.

The answers, if there are any beside new cards, are in the Lore, as usual; https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Punishing_One/Legends

"The JumpMaster 5000, a crescent shaped transport, was the base of the ship, chosen for its ease of maintenance and simple customization."

Add 1 modification slot. All modifications cost -1 points less.

"Dengar modified the Punishing One to use a cutting-edge engine bay and armed the ship with a mini-ion cannon and proton torpedo launcher. He also modified a quad-blaster cannon to operate using an R2-series astromech droid built into the ship as a gunner.

"Dengar also equipped his ship with a series of sensor beacons"

Punishing One Title

Add 1 cannon slot.

Add 1 sensor slot. There's nothing scouts can do that Blue Squadron B-Wings don't do as well, if not better.

1 hour ago, Cloaker said:

FFG, you guys are doing alright. But I gotta figure you're going to sit on some inventory here and lots of lost $

Because nobody wants this

when you could have released THIS

Well, at least you're going to be selling out of Republic Y-Wings for the next 6 months. That was a good call. Mm hm.

You know those are from different factions, right?

1 hour ago, svelok said:

They could give it a sensor slot, but a decent number of people would throw an immediate fit that something even resembling deadeye scouts was brought back.

Remove the torp slot, EZ.

The perfect info lock-rotate actually seems fair on Jumps since their blues are predictable and they only have two dice.

360 turrets were wholesome all along change my mind

17 minutes ago, Pink_Viking said:

You know those are from different factions, right?

Yes we all know that scum actually only has one iconic ship in the movies but we're not allowed to talk about that fact

Every old canon kirhykasdfghjkl is sacred

2 hours ago, Force Majeure said:

I disagree. Meet the new Scum Meta:

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)
Total: 200

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0

180° arc (Torp+turret to the side) behind 36 Health.

Perfect!!

Everyone already has 3 from the 1.0 TripJump meta; just get a single 2.0 rerelease and BAM! you're set.

1 hour ago, Kieransi said:

Remove the torp slot, EZ.

then you've taken "all defense, no damage" and turned it into "all defense, no damage"

36 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Perfect!!

Everyone already has 3 from the 1.0 TripJump meta; just get a single 2.0 rerelease and BAM! you're set.

I only have two.

39 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

I only have two.

Perfect!!

You got 2 dials in the conversion kit and you'll get 2 more with you're brand new 2.0 Jumpmaster expansions!!

And FFG won't be holding the bag on [(Tens of Thousands) - 2 x (29.95)]!!

3 hours ago, Force Majeure said:

I disagree. Meet the new Scum Meta:

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)

Contracted Scout (44)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)
Total: 200

View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0

180° arc (Torp+turret to the side) behind 36 Health.

Don't get too close....

Booohahahaa......

BOOOHahahahahha........

BOOOOHaHAHAHAHAHaHA!!!!!!

9 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Perfect!!

You got 2 dials in the conversion kit and you'll get 2 more with you're brand new 2.0 Jumpmaster expansions!!

And FFG won't be holding the bag on [(Tens of Thousands) - 2 x (29.95)]!!

Oh, they’re still out it when I have no plans of buying the ships for that list

I rarely do the “max of a single chassis” lists. Just isn’t as interesting to me.

Has anyone got their hands on the new one yet? Just wondering if the paint is different or the turret moves or something. Anything to make a few of them sell...

The new one doesn't seem to have any of those odd vanes by the tips of the crescent, but I haven't seen if that's really the case in real life.

Do you see what I'm talking about? Here's a clearer pic of the art from 1st ed.

and here's a cute puppy:

Plenty of easy fixes:

#1: Errata - Title adds 3 front, all get white rotate, and/or it’s now a bow tie arc. Boom, fixed.

#2: Upgrades - Feedback Array isn’t that bad on so much cheap health that takes 3 Ion tokens at 2 points. Cheapen it and make more upgrades like it. A config to allow you to take strain or deplete instead of stress would be quite potent.

#3. Slots. Bumpmaster anyone? Intimidation, Feedback Array, DMS, Tactical Scrambler on a scout for 53ish points of obnoxious area denial or huge green dice advantage plus autodamage. Just needs another illicit and a talented generic. Or AS or R3/FCS for Dengar? PS for scouts? Collision Detector? Also just one new slot.

The tools are there. I assume that the Jump and ID will be the first subjects of actual errata in 2.0. I’m guessing that could happen before the year is out.

Even without it though, there are ways to make it quite playable.

3 hours ago, Pink_Viking said:

You know those are from different factions, right?

but... what about people who play more than one faction? I think there's at least, like, 9.

2 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

Perfect!!

Everyone already has 3 from the 1.0 TripJump meta; just get a single 2.0 rerelease and BAM! you're set.

Enjoy when you roll 2 hits, 2 eyeballs, and a blank, to reroll into 2 eyeballs and a blank.

32 minutes ago, Force Majeure said:

The new one doesn't seem to have any of those odd vanes by the tips of the crescent, but I haven't seen if that's really the case in real life.

Do you see what I'm talking about? Here's a clearer pic of the art from 1st ed.

and here's a cute puppy:

I'd play with four of those puppies before 4 jumpmasters, I'm just saying.

#limits

25 minutes ago, Cloaker said:

Enjoy when you roll 2 hits, 2 eyeballs, and a blank, to reroll into 2 eyeballs and a blank.

My enjoyment of the game is not based on my die rolls.

Mostly.

#iflyties

1 hour ago, Darth Meanie said:

My enjoyment of the game is not based on my die rolls.

Mostly.

#iflyties

I heard that Homing Missiles can fix that....