X-Wing becoming Y-wing ?

By Silver_leader, in X-Wing

49 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

I heard some theorizing about doing a draft with QB cards and found this idea intriguing. Did your local QB tournament do that?

No, I haven't taken part in a draft style QB tournament.

7 hours ago, Minaith said:

Wait an Y for Resistance too...

And B’s after Ep IX is released. Rebels will be the why run them when there is the resistance faction...

11 minutes ago, Archangelspiv said:

And B’s after Ep IX is released. Rebels will be the why run them when there is the resistance faction...

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8 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

I hope they do get this, but only for a thematic event rather than standard play. Like, a mission where the rebels have a shuttle with special rules, and we get several pilots to choose between for list building.

There is canon about how the Lambda from RotJ was stolen by the Rebels to pull a scenario from.

4 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

N.B.: Read all the "nos" in Rey's voice for a better effect.

Read them in Rey's voice and tone when saying "cover those mipples please OMG" for even better.

9 hours ago, astronautcowboy said:

A “one-offs” card pack would be a ton of fun. Cards that don’t really necessitate a full ship release, but would add some nice flavor and call attention to nifty little moments in canon.

Han piloting a Lambda shuttle. Han flying an X-Wing (it’s in the comics). Poe in a TIE. Anakin as Vader for the Republic. Vader in a Defender (it’s in a book).

Maybe they’re not all tournament-legal, but are available for casual play.

9 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

So............. a quick build card. ;)

4 hours ago, kris40k said:

Sure, it is. Its a supported format that they are still producing content for with every release. It's not headlining Worlds, but its a part of the X-Wing game.

It also boils down the game into a format more reliant on decision making and less on combo-wing. That's not a slam against combo-wing as I enjoy the list-building aspects of the game, and have defended it in the past like the thread about Handbrake Han. But both pre-built and customization of units have their problems.

But, I still think the local QB tournament I played in over the course of a month was the funnest one I've played in over the course of my years of X-Wing.

Producing one-offs as Quick Build cards only really limits their usefulness to many players.

Personally, I'd be kinda pissed if, after waiting 5 years for Shuttle Tydirium, it only existed in the QB format, a mode of play that removes the listbuilding I enjoy.

Furthermore, some have advocated that these one-offs should be QB only so they don't taint Faction Identity etc etc and the purity of Extended Play, which implies there is still a Best Version of XWM that should not be sullied.

And I must laugh at the irony of being lectured that QB is an official FFG format and a legit part of the game after defending Epic in the self same manner for 5 years vs those who considered it a stagnant backwater that FFG shouldn't be wasting time on. 🤨

Which is to say, FFG should support all styles of play evenly, and one-offs should be made for BOTH styles of play--QB and LB.

Fair enough to keep them off tournament tables, but let the casual players for which they are designed get to choose how they are used.

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17 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

And I must laugh at the irony of being lectured that QB is an official FFG format and a legit part of the game after defending Epic in the self same manner for 5 years vs those who considered it a stagnant backwater that FFG shouldn't be wasting time on. 🤨

Yeah, I honestly didn't expect to hear from you, of all people, that Quick Build wasn't part of "the Real Game" considering your historical defense of non tournament play.

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1 minute ago, kris40k said:

Yeah, I honestly didn't expect to hear from you, of all people, that Quick Build wasn't part of "the Real Game" considering your historical defense of non tournament play.

Yeah, some intentional hyperbole there, and glad to be subsequently called out for it.

TRUTH. There are many ways to play XWM, and FFG should (and seems to be) supporting them all relatively equally these days.

1 hour ago, Darth Meanie said:

Producing one-offs as Quick Build cards only really limits their usefulness to many players.

Personally, I'd be kinda pissed if, after waiting 5 years for Shuttle Tydirium, it only existed in the QB format, a mode of play that removes the listbuilding I enjoy.

Furthermore, some have advocated that these one-offs should be QB only so they don't taint Faction Identity etc etc and the purity of Extended Play, which implies there is still a Best Version of XWM that should not be sullied.

And I must laugh at the irony of being lectured that QB is an official FFG format and a legit part of the game after defending Epic in the self same manner for 5 years vs those who considered it a stagnant backwater that FFG shouldn't be wasting time on. 🤨

Which is to say, FFG should support all styles of play evenly, and one-offs should be made for BOTH styles of play--QB and LB.

Fair enough to keep them off tournament tables, but let the casual players for which they are designed get to choose how they are used.

And what if the choice is between having it be exclusive to Quickbuilds or not having it at all? This is already the case with many specific load outs on ships. Most notably: want to fly the Millenium Falcon as it’s loaded out during the Death Star escape (Chewy pilot, Han & Luke Gunners, Leia, Threepio, and R2-D2 crew)? Quick Build only. Same with many specific load-outs (Modifcations on the Fang Fighters, R4 on Dengar, etc).

I for one think that’s just fine.

1 hour ago, Herowannabe said:

And what if the choice is between having it be exclusive to Quickbuilds or not having it at all? This is already the case with many specific load outs on ships. Most notably: want to fly the Millenium Falcon as it’s loaded out during the Death Star escape (Chewy pilot, Han & Luke Gunners, Leia, Threepio, and R2-D2 crew)? Quick Build only. Same with many specific load-outs (Modifcations on the Fang Fighters, R4 on Dengar, etc).

I for one think that’s just fine.

Having it QB only would mostly be the same as not having it all for me.

The main difference in the 2 is that those QB cards are just illegal builds--but I still have access to all those cards to LB.

As an example, if you make Shuttle Tydirium (Han+Lambda, Chewie+Lambda) QB only, and then I want to write an Epic mission using it, I can't readily do it because I then need to blend LB and QB.

And why that would extra suck is because we are specifically talking about one-offs, where points conversions (how powerful is Han's ability coupled with the Lambda chassis?) might not be very obvious.

To reiterate what I said above, FFG should try to support all play style choices, especially when designing outside the dictates of tournament play. And especially when it's just cardboard.

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5 hours ago, Archangelspiv said:

And B’s after Ep IX is released. Rebels will be the why run them when there is the resistance faction...

As if. Rebel B-wing best B-wing. Just wait until we get 6 attack die capital ship killer of doom and I-5 Hera with Sabine gunner.

7 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

As if. Rebel B-wing best B-wing. Just wait until we get 6 attack die capital ship killer of doom and I-5 Hera with Sabine gunner.

You know deep down that Resistance B’s are going to have +1 initiative, probably gimble guns, one of them will have old Nera Dantels ability for sure!

6 minutes ago, Archangelspiv said:

You know deep down that Resistance B’s are going to have +1 initiative, probably gimble guns, one of them will have old Nera Dantels ability for sure!

Nooooo that’s not true! That’s impossible!

(Sigh, I told myself Resistance would be replaced with republic for money reasons but... I can’t help but wanting to fly all their cool toys. I guess my wedge/Tycho/Nera from 1.0 is going to end up Poe/Tallie/whatever they release...)

And I also know Resistance as a faction will probably be a fad in Star Wars franchise... It's gonna fade in a couple of years until the next saga comes. Then the good guys will be called different but still use X-wings. And it's good, X-Wings are the signature ship of the franchise, just like TIE's. Too bad they can't come up with something more imaginative for the Resistance than refurbished Bwings and such.

I have 2 daughters, aged 2 and a half years, and 2 and a half weeks. I bet that they will either enjoy whatever is the current iteration of the saga, or the original trilogy (plus awesome Rebellion related content like Rebels, Rogue One, etc), but I don't see the "Resistance" and it's heores around in 5 or 6 years... even with a female lead like Rey.

Just my to credits.

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Don't forget the Z-95 ! We can expect to see a Republic version later.

19 minutes ago, Arkanta974 said:

Don't forget the Z-95 ! We can expect to see a Republic version later.

I wonder if they'll make a new model, because the Republic model looks like this.

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vs the one we all know and love (2/2/2/2 4 LYFE)

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or was it

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2 engines? 4 engines? 2 intakes with 4 exhaust? WHO KNOWS.

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