Gadgets and Gear discussion

By Varlie, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

7 minutes ago, bblaney001 said:

So any idea if we will get Sourcebooks for KotOR and the First Order era?

First Order era will almost certainly arrive some time after Episode IX (I wouldn't expect it to be in hand until mid-2020 at the earliest though). KOTOR isn't "official" canon anymore so unfortunately it isn't likely to be featured in future era books.

9 minutes ago, bblaney001 said:

So any idea if we will get Sourcebooks for KotOR and the First Order era?

The former, probably only if one of the upcoming trilogies or Disney+ series is set in the time period as rumored (and then, more in line with whatever is then “official”). The latter is a pretty safe bet, but not until after The Rise of Skywalker has been released.

1 hour ago, Sarone said:

What is in the book for Medical and Mechanics skills based equipment?

Other than it all being in one place I don't see much in medical or mechanics equipment that's new. There might be something.

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55 minutes ago, bblaney001 said:

So any idea if we will get Sourcebooks for KotOR and the First Order era?

Suspect they could do a nice Shadowports book, with Takodana and Batuu getting write ups...

3 hours ago, bblaney001 said:

So any idea if we will get Sourcebooks for KotOR and the First Order era?

We will almost certainly get a resistance era book. But not till a year after ep 9.

KOTOR longer because of rumored movies that lock that era away till they are out.

So finished doing a skim-thru of all the items featured, and here's the stuff that appears to be new. I cross-referenced this with OggDude's (which I've updated to include most of the gear from books that he's not added data for yet).

Han Solo's Custom DL-44 Blaster Pistol
Qi'ra's Monlitzer S-195 Blaster Pistol
SX-31 Pump-Action Scatter Blaster
Chewbacca's Bowcaster
Bowcaster Quarrels
Exoglove
Kyuzo Petars
Darth Vader's Lightsaber
Findsman Shockprod
Luke Skywalker's Lightsaber
Obi-Wan Kenobi's Lightsaber
Boba Fett's Armor
Darth Vader's Armor
Componentization (weapon attachment)
Tibanna-Jacked (weapon attachment)
Lando's Cape Armoire
Leia's Diplomatic Wardrobe

Most of the new stuff is for named NPCs, and it's possible that some of those weapons have shown up in Allies & Adversaries (didn't cross-reference that book). Also possible the Componentization attachment also showed up in another book as it seems vaguely familiar.

Of course, given how much gear that FFG has published across various books, the lack of truly "new" stuff is only a problem if one is a completionist and has purchased every FFG book for this system to date. And it certainly doesn't cover everything, as there were a number of weapons, armor, and items that I recall from other books that didn't make the cut here. Still, it's a handy resource for GMs and players so they don't have to go searching across a multitude of books.

Edited by Donovan Morningfire

I think componentization is in Cyphers and Masks

6 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

Most of the new stuff is for named NPCs, and it's possible that some of those weapons have shown up in Allies & Adversaries (didn't cross-reference that book).

As I’ve been entering things in, myself, I’ve found that the “iconic” items from Gadgets and Gear is slightly different than their entries as equipment for the characters in Allies and Adversaries .

For starters, they’ve got rarities and encumbrance (along with the “not for sale” price). The special abilities they’ve carried over were previously worded as if being used by their named character, while these descriptions allow any wielder to use them. Then, there’s the addition of the truly “iconic” abilities for them that do only work when the named character is wielding them.

Looks like I may be going back through the NPCs in the GM tools section of OggDude’s and replacing the A&A versions of the items with the G&G versions.

On 9/12/2019 at 8:18 PM, Ahrimon said:

As the GM you can give your players whatever you want. But as I understand it the items in the book are specifically in the hands of so and so this item gains the whatever property.

I’m taking these “legendary items” as almost guidelines for making my own for players with regards to their “special abilities.” Since PCs can become legends in their own right, if they’re using specific equipment in conjunction with signature traits/actions it only makes sense that their equipment would be a reflection of that.

That being said, it surprises me that FFG didn’t realize GMs would be all over that kind of thing for their players and include a section on it. Coming from other games (D&D mostly) I can say from experience it’s easy to unintentionally create a custom item that breaks the game and have to scale it appropriately after play (I’m lucky enough to have understanding players who work with me on this). It would be nice to have guidelines for thoughts on this kind of thing from the people making the game rather than having to do some trial and error during play.

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2 hours ago, Flavorabledeez said:

I’m taking these “legendary items” as almost guidelines for making my own for players with regards to their “special abilities.” Since PCs can become legends in their own right, if they’re using specific equipment in conjunction with signature traits/actions it only makes sense that their equipment would be a reflection of that.

That being said, it surprises me that FFG didn’t realize GMs would be all over that kind of thing for their players and include a section on it. Coming from other games (D&D mostly) I can say from experience it’s easy to unintentionally create a custom item that breaks the game and have to scale it appropriately after play (I’m lucky enough to have understanding players who work with me on this). It would be nice to have guidelines for thoughts on this kind of thing from the people making the game rather than having to do some trial and error during play.

Gonna have to crack open Genesys again and see what it has to say about signature weapons.

On 9/13/2019 at 10:47 PM, bblaney001 said:

So any idea if we will get Sourcebooks for KotOR and the First Order era?

Given that KotOR is now firmly in Legends territory, I doubt we'll ever see anything official for it.

7 hours ago, Dafydd said:

Given that KotOR is now firmly in Legends territory, I doubt we'll ever see anything official for it.

There's a KotOR movie or trilogy being planned right now... so it will most likely become canon, but not what we now know as KotOR.

1 hour ago, OddballE8 said:

There's a KotOR movie or trilogy being planned right now... so it will most likely become canon, but not what we now know as KotOR.

And we likely wont get a book till after that trilogy

1 hour ago, OddballE8 said:

There's a KotOR movie or trilogy being planned right now... so it will most likely become canon, but not what we now know as KotOR.

Pretty sure the idea that there's a KotOR-era movie in the works is pure speculation based upon some unsourced rumors from Buzzfeed and We've Got This Covered (not exactly the most reputable sources) and misinterpreting something Kathleen Kennedy said when asked about the era.

Not that I'd be disappointed to be wrong, though.

How much legend is the KotOR era ? Is it all the events in this era that are legend ? Or only the video games and books that are legend, but the chronology isn't.

1 hour ago, OddballE8 said:

There's a KotOR movie or trilogy being planned right now... so it will most likely become canon, but not what we now know as KotOR.

Not so much a KoTOR trilogy as a trilogy set thousands of years before the current era (well, supposedly). Whether they will incorporate anything from KoTOR is very much in doubt, but I'm kinda hoping not. Because KoTOR feels more like it is set in a far away corner of the present Star Wars universe than thousands of years in the past. The only differneces between normal Star Wars and KoTOR is that the latter uses slightly different ships and guns. And not even technically inferior ones.

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10 minutes ago, WolfRider said:

How much legend is the KotOR era ? Is it all the events in this era that are legend ? Or only the video games and books that are legend, but the chronology isn't.

All of it is, I think.

Some of the locations like Taris and Malachor have shown up in canon, but the factions, events, and even the major characters of the era are firmly Legends. I mean, I think there was canonically a Republic and a Sith Empire, who didn't get along, and that's about as far as it goes for canon.

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12 minutes ago, micheldebruyn said:

All of it is, I think.

Some of the locations like Taris and Malachor have shown up in canon, but the factions, events, and even the major characters of the era are firmly Legends. I mean, I think there was canonically a Republic and a Sith Empire, who didn't get along, and that's about as far as it goes for canon.

They even butchered Korriban and Bane in TCW....

12 minutes ago, Rimsen said:

They even butchered Korriban and Bane in TCW....

Darth Bane was created by George Lucas in the first place (and wasn't even part of the KotOR era in Legends) and Moraband's appearance in TCW even featured the Sith Academy looking pretty **** similar to how it did in TOR. The only thing that's changed is that Bane got a new (read: cooler) outfit and Korriban got a new name that sources from the time immediately stated was just another name for the world specific to the Clone Wars.

1 hour ago, WolfRider said:

How much legend is the KotOR era ? Is it all the events in this era that are legend ? Or only the video games and books that are legend, but the chronology isn't.

Off the top of my head I know that Malachor is now back in some fashion.

In Rebels it is the site of an ancient battle between Jedi and Sith and a super-weapon was set off to end the conflict.

In Legends it is the location of the final battle of the Mandalorian Wars where Revan sets off the "Mass Shadow Generator" (a super-weapon) to end the war.

I'm sure there are other examples but that's all I could think of off the top of my head sorry.

On 9/14/2019 at 2:45 PM, Nytwyng said:

Gonna have to crack open Genesys again and see what it has to say about signature weapons.

Is this a thing?

Tell me this is a thing (and use detail)

15 minutes ago, Flavorabledeez said:

Is this a thing?

Tell me this is a thing (and use detail)

It is a thing, but after looking it up, it would take some rethinking and reworking for Star Wars.

Realms of Terrinoth introduces the Heroic Ability Signature Weapon which allows you to select a signature weapon from a list of 4 options; if it’s ever lost or destroyed, it finds its way back to you against all odds, or you obtain a new one.

Improved Signature Weapon causes it to gain benefits of the Reinforced* quality or gets benefits or being of ancient craftsmanship**.

Supreme Signature Weapon causes it to gain 2 hard points and a free attachment of your choice rarity 9 or less (subject to the new total hard points).

*Weapon immune to Sunder, armor soak immune to Pierce and Breach.

**Increase damage by 1, reduce crit by 1, gain Reinforced, reduce hard points by 1 (to minimum of 0).

7 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

It is a thing, but after looking it up, it would take some rethinking and reworking for Star Wars.

Realms of Terrinoth introduces the Heroic Ability Signature Weapon which allows you to select a signature weapon from a list of 4 options; if it’s ever lost or destroyed, it finds its way back to you against all odds, or you obtain a new one.

Improved Signature Weapon causes it to gain benefits of the Reinforced* quality or gets benefits or being of ancient craftsmanship**.

Supreme Signature Weapon causes it to gain 2 hard points and a free attachment of your choice rarity 9 or less (subject to the new total hard points).

*Weapon immune to Sunder, armor soak immune to Pierce and Breach.

**Increase damage by 1, reduce crit by 1, gain Reinforced, reduce hard points by 1 (to minimum of 0).

And I was just saying the other day “I have quite a few rpg books, I can’t see a reason to ever really buy any more”...

Anyone else find the image for the Model 38 Sharpshooter's Rifle to be .… curious? It was first featured in the explorer sourcebook ( without an image) and now is featured in Gadgets and Gear with an image, but it looks NOTHING like what I imagined it might....

To me, it looks like a Star Wars shotgun. Interestingly, on the same page there is the Model 4 "Thunderhead" Scatter Gun....is it possible the image was supposed to accompany it instead of the Model 38?

Am I way off base here?

Edited by Kainrath

Just announced for UK release this Tuesday... 🙂