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Posted at 2019-09-11 14:57:45+00:00

Is a fleet of 10 Hammerhead torpedo Corvettes a) a bad fleet? b) something that makes me a bad person for wanting to try it out?

(No, I don't own 10, but I can borrow enough to put them on the table.)

Posted at 2019-09-11 14:59:05+00:00

@LTD

Posted at 2019-09-11 15:00:47+00:00

Just now, Gilarius said:

Is a fleet of 10 Hammerhead torpedo Corvettes a) a bad fleet? b) something that makes me a bad person for wanting to try it out?

(No, I don't own 10, but I can borrow enough to put them on the table.)

I once did a fleet of 7 raiders with screed apts and ord experts... so it can't be much worse than that lol

Posted at 2019-09-11 15:12:19+00:00

11 minutes ago, Darth Sanguis said:

I once did a fleet of 7 raiders with screed apts and ord experts... so it can't be much worse than that lol

Was that bad?

Posted at 2019-09-11 15:17:07+00:00

1 minute ago, Gilarius said:

Was that bad?

Oh goodness...

It was horrendous. Really fun to play, but horrendous. I think I was 3rd from last in the tournament I went to...

Posted at 2019-09-11 15:35:50+00:00

43 minutes ago, Gilarius said:

Is a fleet of 10 Hammerhead torpedo Corvettes a) a bad fleet? b) something that makes me a bad person for wanting to try it out?

(No, I don't own 10, but I can borrow enough to put them on the table.)

Ten torpedo Hammerheads leaves you with 2-20 points of upgrades depending on your commander. I think you will do better with a slightly less mono-build composition and a few more upgrades. For example:

397/400, Opening Salvo , Planetary Ion Cannon , Solar Corona .
CR90-A, Rieekan , TRC, Jiana's Light, RBDs 88
CR90-A, TRC 51

Hammerhead-T, E-Rax, Ordnance Experts 43
Hammerhead-T, E-Rax, Ordnance Experts 43
Hammerhead-T, E-Rax, Ordnance Experts 43

Hammerheads have to get in close so you are going to take losses and Rieekan gives you the certainty of one of those ships staying alive to shoot or block/pin targets. 8 Activations is usually more than enough. You could go for 7 activations and make 2 of the above ships into a tooled up MC30 for some concentrated threat. If you want more of a bid then RBDs can go and OE could be replaced for Task Force Organa to save points. The second CR90-A could be replaced for a CR90-B with OL-Pulse or HIEs and would give some nice combos to soften up prime targets.

You don't want your commander on a hammerhead due to the risk so the TRC90s make an excellent lifeboat that is still able to contribute to the fight and soften up or polish off whichever target the Hammerheads have in their sights. The great range and 360 ability to throw 1-4 red dice with a guaranteed double hit means you can tip the ballance in any fight over a wide area.

Mon Mothma and Cracken are also good admirals for this type of list.
Leia is expensive but fun, with lots of CF commands and CF Token effects.
Dodonna is cheap and you could replace E-Rax with APTs to benefit from his dial-a-crit rule.

Edited September 11, 2019 by Mad Cat

Posted at 2019-09-11 16:25:41+00:00

10 is cool but wont have upgrades or rerolls 9 on the other hand

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• General Rieekan (30)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 70 Points

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 40 Points

Squadrons:
= 0 Points

Total Points: 390

Posted at 2019-09-11 16:27:11+00:00

Ummm...isn't the point of 10 Hammerhead corvettes that you are able to do 50 pts of ramming damage direct to the enemy hulls, bypassing shields and defense tokens and everything? Add one copy of Garel's Honor in there, just for kicks.

Although usually people go with 8x ET CR90b, just because of the ability to double-ram on certain turns - and that the higher base speed makes it a lot easier to arrange the rams in the first place. Less hull, of course (assuming you are trying to keep one hull alive on each ship so you don't intentionally lose any of your own, the 10x Hammerhead gets 40 damage out while the 8x CR90 only gets out 24 damage - still 24 is enough to kill an SSD and the CR90s can do it in two turns, while it takes the Hammerheads 4 turns to get out their 40).

Edited September 11, 2019 by xanderf

Posted at 2019-09-11 16:36:52+00:00

I like these suggestions.

Dropping to 9 allows the Scout version, so longer range damage. It's pretty hard to get all 10 into close range (especiallyon the same target), so would 9 Scouts get to do more damage in total?

Posted at 2019-09-11 16:59:37+00:00

Maybe a mix

Hammerhead Scout Corvette (41)
• General Rieekan (30)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 72 Points

Hammerhead Scout Corvette (41)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 42 Points

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 40 Points

Posted at 2019-09-11 17:04:24+00:00

4 minutes ago, xero989 said:

Maybe a mix

Hammerhead Scout Corvette (41)
• General Rieekan (30)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 72 Points

Hammerhead Scout Corvette (41)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 42 Points

Hammerhead Scout Corvette (41)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 42 Points

Hammerhead Scout Corvette (41)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 42 Points

Hammerhead Scout Corvette (41)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 42 Points

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 40 Points

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 40 Points

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 40 Points

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 40 Points

I like this version best. Would it be any good?

Posted at 2019-09-11 17:47:13+00:00

36 minutes ago, Gilarius said:

I like this version best. Would it be any good?

Its got rerolls sustain damage from the scouts burst damage from the torpedos. Would probably struggle against Squadrons. Its got the right tools just would need to be exicuted correctly.

Posted at 2019-09-11 17:53:41+00:00

I played against a list that was 6 or 8 Hammerheads and an Assault Frigate(?) using Jerjerrod Arquitens. We both had a lot of fun.

Posted at 2019-09-11 20:02:27+00:00

4 hours ago, Gilarius said:

Is a fleet of 10 Hammerhead torpedo Corvettes a) a bad fleet? b) something that makes me a bad person for wanting to try it out?

(No, I don't own 10, but I can borrow enough to put them on the table.)

A. Yes B. No, it makes you an interesting and fun person.

You can't be a bad person for trying out crazy ideas. It's how new metas are discovered. But I can't imagine that fleet being worth much. I think your best bet is to use your hull advantage (50!) and ram-rush your opponent. Fly fast and ram like crazy in order to actually put some hurt on the enemy. With any luck you panic your opposition into making some mistakes.

Posted at 2019-09-12 00:55:29+00:00

9 hours ago, Bertie Wooster said:

@LTD

As we say in the old country:

"Why not give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice in it!"

Posted at 2019-09-12 01:10:38+00:00

Do as the russians did...

Throw your bodies at the enemy.

Posted at 2019-09-12 02:03:03+00:00

1 hour ago, LTD said:

As we say in the old country:

"Why not give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice in it!"

Vassal tournament aside, didn't you have some fun/success with a lot of Hammerheads? Or was it just the CR90s?

Posted at 2019-09-12 06:01:03+00:00

Sub a CR90 + Liberator + IF on a long range list and you can really reach our and touch someone. In one massive turn, this list could potentially throw 30 dice (w/DCaps, QBT, & Leia Conc Fire Dial) with up to 3 re-rolls per 5 dice attack PLUS the single use of IF command card.

Commander: Leia Organa

CR90 Corvette B (39)
• Leia Organa (38)
• Liberator (2)
• Intensify Firepower! (6)
= 85 Points

Hammerhead Scout Corvette (41)
• Disposable Capacitors (3)
• Quad Battery Turrets (5)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 50 Points

Squadrons:
= 0 Points

Total Points: 385

Posted at 2019-09-12 06:36:50+00:00

What about the customary 19 Z95 to go with it?

Posted at 2019-09-12 09:47:51+00:00

7 hours ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Vassal tournament aside, didn't you have some fun/success with a lot of Hammerheads? Or was it just the CR90s?

Nope. Just a vassal tournament.

Posted at 2019-09-12 21:56:29+00:00

Name: Untitled Fleet
Faction: Rebel
Commander: General Rieekan

Assault: Most Wanted
Defense: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation: Solar Corona

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• General Rieekan (30)
• Hondo Ohnaka (2)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 69 Points

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• Boarding Troopers (3)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 43 Points

Squadrons:
= 0 Points

Total Points: 370

You could throw in Han or Malee, just to annoy Squadrons.

Or even run Leia, so banking those tokens doesn't come with an opportunity cost while allowing speed changes and better confires...

Posted at 2019-09-17 18:12:07+00:00

On 9/11/2019 at 9:10 PM, Ling27 said:

Do as the russians did...

Throw your bodies at the enemy.

Drown them in blood. Theirs or yours.

Posted at 2019-11-23 23:38:05+00:00

8 but with boarding troopers and 5 squadrons 😊

Also did you ever actually try this? If you did I would love to know the results!

Name: Untitled Fleet
Faction: Rebel
Commander: General Dodonna

Assault: Most Wanted
Defense: Asteroid Tactics
Navigation: Solar Corona

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• General Dodonna (20)
• Ordnance Experts (4)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 64 Points

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36)
• Boarding Troopers (3)
• External Racks (3)
• Task Force Organa (1)
= 43 Points

Squadrons:
• 5 x Z-95 Headhunter Squadron (35)
= 35 Points

Total Points: 400

Edited November 23, 2019 by Kronusplague

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