Wtf, there were only like two summons in the Summon Points thread 😳

Foresight only 4?

13 minutes ago, XPav said:

Contraband Cybernetics = "Here Scum, we got you something nice! Stop complaining!"

OldMan Han is also very pleased

I am so utterly disappointed in the cost of the Nantex and ensnare. Two of the pilots might as well have blank abilities without it but there is no way it is worth SNR prices. The Nantex was the ship I was most looking forward to and now I don’t really even care that it’s coming out

23 minutes ago, UhearBoutPluto said:

Sun Fac plus ensnare is 78 points, so at I6 it's 24 for I5 it is 16 and for everyone else it is 10

Petranaki Arena Ace + Ensnare + Predator. Sounds decent 50p Aceish fighter.

Just now, Hiemfire said:

Foresight only 4?

Spend a force and has to be bullseye. For once they probably priced a bullseye and force-charge spending ability correctly.

I'll also just hop on the "Sun Fac is hilariously overcosted" train and be sad. Doubt I'll bother picking up the ship in favor of more Republic Ys that will be sold out in a month.

R5-P8 is Hyperspace legal, I guess they think it'll be "good" paired with Punishing One...

3 minutes ago, Caduceus01 said:

I am so utterly disappointed in the cost of the Nantex and ensnare. Two of the pilots might as well have blank abilities without it but there is no way it is worth SNR prices. The Nantex was the ship I was most looking forward to and now I don’t really even care that it’s coming out

Oh calm yourself. How about you try the ship out before you complain?

How convenient that 6 Y-Wings will fit into a single 200-point list, the same as the largest epic wing.

Ensnare Sun Fac-78

Proton Torp Anakin-74

which seems like a better deal to you?

1 minute ago, DarkArk said:

Spend a force and has to be bullseye. For once they probably priced a bullseye and force-charge spending ability correctly.

I'll also just hop on the "Sun Fac is hilariously overcosted" train and be sad. Doubt I'll bother picking up the ship in favor of more Republic Ys that will be sold out in a month.

You missed the second part... You get the focus to hit conversion that that Force Charge provides automatically with the attack both when used as a bonus attack (which costs a Force) and when used during the Engagement Phase (which only requires you to have a shot lined up)...

3 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

You missed the second part...

I did not actually, I just didn't see the need to point it out. It's an ability that's likely only good en masse anyway. Snap is overcosted, foresight isn't. Force charges are at a premium, and honestly i think brilliant evasion has a more likely chance to proc for the points and slot. If we ever get a ship with two force slots I might buy into foresight.

1 minute ago, DarkArk said:

I did not actually, I just didn't see the need to point it out. It's an ability that's likely only good en masse anyway. Snap is overcosted, foresight isn't. Force charges are at a premium, and honestly i think brilliant evasion as a more likely chance to proc.

Snap is appropriately costed. I'd have paid 3.5 points for it in 1st edition. We're so spoiled on cheap talents we don't realize a good one when we see it. Juke is still the best-second-best-performing talent in the game at 7 points. Snap shot will be similar. In fact, the two work together unbelievably well. You can take 5 A-Wings with both equipped and that's an absurd amount of area denial or free unblockable damage on a platform that's already evading.

I'm going to agree that Foresight is unbelievably cheap. The question is whether to use that or Precog on Quiz now. He finally has some reasonable talents!

7 minutes ago, Caduceus01 said:

I am so utterly disappointed in the cost of the Nantex and ensnare. Two of the pilots might as well have blank abilities without it but there is no way it is worth SNR prices. The Nantex was the ship I was most looking forward to and now I don’t really even care that it’s coming out

Chertek + Ensnare looks really good to me. Grab a bullseye talent and you're good to go, he's even the same init as Grievous.

R2D2 slots: Talent, Torp, Turret, Gunner, Crew, Device, Mod. CALLED IT!!!!

Just now, Okapi said:

Chertek + Ensnare looks really good to me. Grab a bullseye talent and you're good to go, he's even the same init as Grievous.

Yeah I am now trying to build lists around him and Brewer.

4 minutes ago, DarkArk said:

I did not actually, I just didn't see the need to point it out. It's an ability that's likely only good en masse anyway. Snap is overcosted, foresight isn't. Force charges are at a premium, and honestly i think brilliant evasion has a more likely chance to proc for the points and slot. If we ever get a ship with two force slots I might buy into foresight.

Snap is not overcosted... a free shot against a target that doesn’t have defense mods... can be very good, especially on a generic swarm.

Bonus attacks should be expensive. Who wants to go back to 5 VTG Y’s???

1 minute ago, ClassicalMoser said:

You can take 5 A-Wings with both equipped and that's an absurd amount of area denial or free unblockable damage on a platform that's already evading.

🤨 Nope...

Green Squadron Pilot (32)
Juke (7)
Snap Shot (7)
Total: 46

Should we even use esc anymore with a tractor list? Or just plain vultures with grapple

Welcome to hyperspace Chopper astromech.

Jek Porkins (46)
Elusive (3)
“Chopper” (2)
Servomotor S-Foils (0)
Total: 51

(Now legal in Hyperspace, nutso regen Jek)

3 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Should we even use esc anymore with a tractor list? Or just plain vultures with grapple

Yeah probably because you need that punch. You can’t rely on a ship that is 4 hull and tractoring itself every turn to live long. One mistake and the Nantex is dead and you basically lost

There is no single ship in Separatist faction minus Nantex who would need a Targeting Computer and it cant use it. Im calling mistake, it would be pretty dumb otherwise..

8 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

🤨 Nope...

Green Squadron Pilot (32)
Juke (7)
Snap Shot (7)
Total: 46

Oops that was a false call. You can take four plus 2 prockets.

21 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

You missed the second part... You get the focus to hit conversion that that Force Charge provides automatically with the attack both when used as a bonus attack (which costs a Force) and when used during the Engagement Phase (which only requires you to have a shot lined up)...

Considering that this is a straight upgrade to the Tie V1 primary at ranges beyond 1 and that five Inquisitprs with this upgrade are possible, this sounds very interesting.

Does anyone have experience with that many bullseyes? Did anyone fly CLT jedi?

Okay so. For Foresight, does adding die count as a mod? Can Vader add a die from AdvTar to a Foresight attack?

Hmm. Snapshot is missing info in YASB for what the attack range and dice are...

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If Sun Fac cares about how many tractors ships, maybe we should be getting a 2nd (or even3rd) Nantex. Or flying it with Maul+tractor?

Any other ways for the faction to give out tractor tokens?