5 hours ago, Caduceus01 said:

Yeah each threat is supposed to be around 25 points but really it just gives you a rough estimate. The two threat guys will probably be somewhere between 35 and 65.

The average deviation from 25 pts/threat estimate is 2.2 pts, so being off by 15 would make it an extreme outlier, the worst of any QB ever printed. Only 13 of 350 QBs are off more than 6pts / threat

8 minutes ago, prauxim said:

The average deviation from 25 pts/threat estimate is 2.2 threat, so being off by 15 would make it an extreme outlier, the worse of any QB ever printed. Only 13 of 350 QBs are off more than 6pts / threat

You seem to trust FFG much more than I do sir lol. I know what the past says but that doesn’t mean they didn’t do something strange this time.

2 hours ago, Caduceus01 said:

I was right about the two Talents!!!

2 hours ago, RStan said:

I'm not putting too much stock into the threat amount, but the amount of double talent slot is alarming to the point where it's now a safe assumption that certain pilots will have access to 2 talent slots.

2 hours ago, Caduceus01 said:

It looks like Sun Fac with Ensare, Predator, afterburners and Shield upgrade or Hull upgrade is around 75 points. I can work with that!

So, good call on two talents? I assumed this was not going to happen because now the ship doesn't really have a downside... take both, either get 3 defense dice or 2 with a reroll, *and* also you can pass off a tractor token if someone is in range.

I'm with @RStan , this is alarming if true. Especially if that build is roughly 75 points. Shield upgrade is 8 points for 3 agi; afterburners is 6; predator is 2... we're looking at Sun Fac maybe being a hair over 60 points with ensnare. Lots of build options available...

Yeah this means that the CIS will actually have an affordable ace to go with a mini swarm. Grievous tries to be an ace but really he is more of a flanker/brawler. I will only be concerned about Sun if he turns out to be much easier to use than I expected.

This is still a pretty vulnerable ship that will get severely punished by poor decisions, in either damage or missed opportunities with the arc rotate. That said, man is it going to be fun to mess around with. I'm really curious to see where Sun + Ensnare + Gravitic comes in at cost, if the two talent sticks outside of QB.

Where's the Oddball QB? I need my Oddball!

On 9/8/2019 at 11:48 PM, Caduceus01 said:

I just saw an unboxing of the two new ships from Legion Krakow but they failed to show the quick builds. Does anyone have these that can post that information? It would help to get an approximation on how much these things will cost and to see the slots.

I'll be including the quick builds in my unboxings. The first of which is going up in the morning.

9 hours ago, dsul413 said:

Two talents, ensnare and gravitic (or snapshot!) will be really interesting,

I'm not sure ensnare and gravetic deflection pair well together as one wants to pass tractor tokens off to someone else whilst the other wants to hang on to it (unless you can hug the now-tractored target or you have a 'buddy' shielding you) But paired talents in general are very scary.

With a 3-die bullseye, predator looks like a good default investment; crack shot is cool and all but with tractor tokens flying every which way, you shouldn't really need crack shot that much as your opponent's defence rolls are hopefully already buggered.

7 hours ago, Caduceus01 said:

Yeah this means that the CIS will actually have an affordable ace to go with a mini swarm. Grievous tries to be an ace but really he is more of a flanker/brawler. I will only be concerned about Sun if he turns out to be much easier to use than I expected.

I could actually see Grievous, Sun Fac and Chertek being an interesting squad.

Grievous wants to be a flanker but he's also got the raw durability (especially with Impervium Plating) to go 'up the centre' if he has to. Meanwhile, pairing up Chertek and Grievous gives you two ships with lots of manoeuvrability and dice modifiers even if they have a 'low' initiative of 4, whilst Sun Fac can dance with the Soontir Fels, Anakin Skywalkers and Wedge Antilles, whilst pairing up Chertek and Sun Fac, if they've both got Ensnare, gives you the potential to tractor medium based ships, which is important if facing a swarm with an ARC-170 or TIE Reaper at its core.

Two talents, oh yeah!

6 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:

I could actually see Grievous, Sun Fac and Chertek being an interesting squad.

Grievous wants to be a flanker but he's also got the raw durability (especially with Impervium Plating) to go 'up the centre' if he has to. Meanwhile, pairing up Chertek and Grievous gives you two ships with lots of manoeuvrability and dice modifiers even if they have a 'low' initiative of 4, whilst Sun Fac can dance with the Soontir Fels, Anakin Skywalkers and Wedge Antilles, whilst pairing up Chertek and Sun Fac, if they've both got Ensnare, gives you the potential to tractor medium based ships, which is important if facing a swarm with an ARC-170 or TIE Reaper at its core

I was thinking Maul, Grievous and Sun. Stick Maul in the middle and flank with the other two. I have to wait for points to see exactly what upgrades you can fit but there should be a little room to play around with

Just now, Caduceus01 said:

I was thinking Maul, Grievous and Sun. Stick Maul in the middle and flank with the other two. I have to wait for points to see exactly what upgrades you can fit but there should be a little room to play around with

Exactly what I was thinking. If the points are conservative on sun like it seems like they are, might even be able to fit dooku on maul!

Here you go. (Hopefully this is readable.) @prauxim @Ablazoned

1 hour ago, dadocollin said:

Here you go. (Hopefully this is readable.) @prauxim @Ablazoned

Thank you @dadocollin ! For those interested, I’ll be adding these to the Infinite Arenas QBSB and the Quick Build Decks tonight!

2 hours ago, dadocollin said:

Here you go. (Hopefully this is readable.) @prauxim @Ablazoned

🤣

More readable than polish! 🤣

Haha wow Anakin in the Y Wing is more threat than Anakin in a CLT 7B, but I would bet he's less points!

4 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Haha wow Anakin in the Y Wing is more threat than Anakin in a CLT 7B, but I would bet he's less points!

I suspect Soka is most of 1 Threat on her own

1 hour ago, thespaceinvader said:

Haha wow Anakin in the Y Wing is more threat than Anakin in a CLT 7B, but I would bet he's less points!

He has some really expensive upgrades in the QB so I doubt that build will be cheaper. Just Ahsoka and Proton torps is probably 30 points plus whatever precog reflexes costs.