@kodiakduck yes. Thank you. Will definitely check them out.
@Force Majeure Thanks for the tips! I’m looking forward it. Just trying to think up a relativey straightforward list to run. Something without TOO many advanced activations and tricks that will trip me up. Definitely should stay away from arc dodging! Not so good at that yet! 😆
@Rouge Five oh did they push it back?! I’ll have to see what my schedule is. I work a seasonal job during Oct. May have to skip it if I’m working.
It sounds like you found a community! If anyone is reading and doesn't, there's lots of good stuff in this thread:
If you have a store near you that sells x-wing, start a night! It might take some time (even months) of just you showing up, but with consistency you can build the community you seek.
i just wanted to thank everyone again for the help and to Dan for officially negating the title of this thread! I had an awesome time playing my first game of X-Wing at Tier One in NJ.
Played Ani/Tinn Deltas and an 104th and REALLY enjoyed it. I thought I’d be a squad guy, but I can’t deny the versatility of D7Bs, so I think I’ll stick with this list for a while and see how it goes.
Awesome!
3 hours ago, K-2SO said:i just wanted to thank everyone again for the help and to Dan for officially negating the title of this thread! I had an awesome time playing my first game of X-Wing at Tier One in NJ.
Played Ani/Tinn Deltas and an 104th and REALLY enjoyed it. I thought I’d be a squad guy, but I can’t deny the versatility of D7Bs, so I think I’ll stick with this list for a while and see how it goes.
It was an absolute pleasure
Hope to see ya next week!
On 9/8/2019 at 2:27 PM, SpiderMana said:While there are isolated incidents of communities giving up X-Wing in the transition to 2.0, I think by and large it's still thriving most places?
I don't think this is true, sadly. To pile on to the local anecdote, we used to have 10-20 show up at Kit Tournaments two or three times a month at the tail end of 1.0, whereas now it'll go a month or two between events within a 1-hr radius, and when there is one only a few people show up (usually the same few people). I know a few of the local store owners (and used to TO in conjunction with them a lot, especially early in 1.0's life) and they all seem to have the impression that 2.0 sales are colder and slower than 1.0 sales. We also had one store that had been open for about 15 years close down at the start of the summer, and he had a huge blowout sale, selling all of his FFG Stuff at 40% off, including first and brand-new second edition stuff. He basically couldn't move any of it during his clearance sales and ended up bulk firesale-ing it online to another store owner. It could just be isolated to our local community, but ...
Nationally (U.S.), I think there is a big decline as well, maybe not in sales or the number of people who consider themselves players, but event attendance seems to be declining at least. While this was the first time in 5 Years I didn't go to Gencon myself (where the X-Wing event has always been sold out or nearly sold out), I was told by those that did go this year that there were nearly 50% of the seats available on each day of the Championships, meaning there was a huge swath of empty tables in the FFG Event area for the first time.
Granted, the PodCast guys won't ever admit this, since a lot of them make money (and even talk of wanting to quit their day jobs) to just cover and create X-Wing based content and third-party products and Patreons and the like, but I feel like the X-Wing bubble has already popped and it's in its Twilight Phase now. The majority of players I knew very well on the competitive scene for the first five years of 1.0 have basically all replaced X-Wing Time with other gaming interests and several of them have even sold off their collections.
On 9/10/2019 at 11:59 AM, Jyico said:It sounds like you found a community! If anyone is reading and doesn't, there's lots of good stuff in this thread:
If you have a store near you that sells x-wing, start a night! It might take some time (even months) of just you showing up, but with consistency you can build the community you seek.
This is really true. Any game lives or dies by its local community, and those communities live and die by the charisma and effort of a few key individuals and organizers. What it takes is an interested person (or persons) championing the cause for a bit: creating social media groups (and searching for ones that may already exist for an area), making and posting flyers for hosting demo nights and casual events and competitive events at local venues. Being willing to struggle through the early phase of establishing a local routine wherein you might get 1 or 2 or no people showing up to various nights. Sometimes, with patience, it catches fire, but sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes the brightest spark can just sputter out.
This is all why there's not a "national chain" version of the Friendly Local Hobby Game Store (and it's unique in the American landscape as being one of the very few businesses that hasn't been co-opted by cookie-cutter national chains). Local communities are so particular and fickle in their tastes and interests that no national model can service it sufficiently. You might have one store that stocks multiples of the entire Warmachine/Hordes line and has 20 person events every two weeks, and 40 minutes away you might have a store that had to clearance all their WarmaHordes two years ago and doesn't even stock it, but might move Bolt Action stuff like crazy.
X-wing 2.0 must be doing alright.
I say this based on one thing mainly: FFG is supporting the game with new content, tournament prizes and events.
If the game was on the decline you'd REALLY know it. Take SW: Imperial Assault as an example. Popular game in some circles, but due to various factors it's steam ran out and FFG is not planning on creating anything new for it. I don't know off-hand how the tournament scene is going, but the skirmish variant was essentially a "solved meta" last time I looked and it will live on in some form without FFG's help. They didn't outright say "we're done" like they did with RuneWars™ but these games are not being played in stores any more by all accounts.
So, maybe it's certain areas that are seeing less X-wing play, or just specific stores, but X-wing is going to be out there for a while longer. Even when it is "gone" I'm confident I'll still be able to easily get some games in with friends.
On 9/9/2019 at 6:13 AM, K-2SO said:Thanks, everyone for the encouragement! I suppose FB and Reddit would yield the best results, but I’m not really on there. I guess I could create an account just for this reason, if it comes to that.
Highly recommended. Using facebook to organize games and communities leads to infinitely more games. I get so many X-wing games from being in my local X-Wing facebook group. Also, I play another game that has maybe 7 local players for it. If it weren't for me making a facebook group for it and posting it at the local store, I would have met zero of them (well, one; my brother also plays).
9 hours ago, Force Majeure said:X-wing 2.0 must be doing alright.
I say this based on one thing mainly: FFG is supporting the game with new content, tournament prizes and events.
If the game was on the decline you'd REALLY know it. Take SW: Imperial Assault as an example. Popular game in some circles, but due to various factors it's steam ran out and FFG is not planning on creating anything new for it. I don't know off-hand how the tournament scene is going, but the skirmish variant was essentially a "solved meta" last time I looked and it will live on in some form without FFG's help. They didn't outright say "we're done" like they did with RuneWars™ but these games are not being played in stores any more by all accounts.
So, maybe it's certain areas that are seeing less X-wing play, or just specific stores, but X-wing is going to be out there for a while longer. Even when it is "gone" I'm confident I'll still be able to easily get some games in with friends.
My understanding is that there are issues with Hasboro's distribution rights of Star Wars board games causing issues with Imperial Assault. As well, in the AMA, they did say that Imperial Assault is now a complete game (aka "we're done"), and that there will be no more physical content. He even doubted if there would be more reprints done. That part kinda sucks because I have always been a fan of Descent and similar games, but haven't had the money yet to spend on collecting Imperial Assault.